CJC-1295/GHRP-6 Log

[M302_Imola]

In humans, a dose of 1.5mcg/kg (150mcg for a 100kg male) of GHRP-2 or GHRP-6 when combined with a modified GRF 1-29 of equal dosage creates a three-hour pulse of GH

that is double the amplitude of an 8 IU synthetic (e.coli derived) growth hormone dose.[4] IV, intramuscular and subcutaneous routes lead to different onset times but roughly

similar peaks and declines. Due to ease of synthesis (as opposed to the complicated process of creating GH from e. coli), safety, and lower cost, modified GRF 1-29 together

with GHRP-2, GHRP- 6 or the newer Ipamorelin, taken as part of comprehensive therapy may supplant conventional exogenous GH therapy.

Here is a little bit of text that I read that started my research into different administration routes...im hoping the IM route is treating ya well swifto! Though I find there still is a little bit of irritation when inj into the muscle and I'll get a little red bump. Its not really itchy but you can feel the slight irritation.

Interesting...thanks for posting that!

[Swifto]

I'm going to give IM a go for a few days.

Just did my first IM shot and f*ck me, I'm bright red! I did do fair dose of about 150mcg of each CJC and GHRP-6, but its given me the flushing feeling faster. Will report back if I get anything else (hand numbness) in the next few hours.

I dont actually like doing IM shots with water based meds, the chances of infection are higher and because of scar tissue. Sub-q is pretty quick and easy to do. I'm also doing IM shots EOD at present, with Winstrol and Test Prop.

[Dukkit]

Peptides are the shit.

I have stated many times that they helped me to reach my biggest, strongest and leanest when I ran them.

The increased hunger aspect is amazing. (Note- Do not drink alcohol within a short time frame of shooting GHRP, unless you want to eat everything you see.)

Helped heal some injuries, though it didnt help me sleep due to running Tren .

IM shots were my fav. Felt the pulse/sides quicker. Especially PWO.

Leaned out quick even though I was bulking and taking in near 5000 cals. (Tren helped but Peptides def made a difference)

Glad to see you decided to run them Swifto. Ill be watching this log. Good luck!

[Swifto]

Peptides are the shit.

I have stated many times that they helped me to reach my biggest, strongest and leanest when I ran them.

The increased hunger aspect is amazing. (Note- Do not drink alcohol within a short time frame of shooting GHRP, unless you want to eat everything you see.)

Helped heal some injuries, though it didnt help me sleep due to running Tren .

IM shots were my fav. Felt the pulse/sides quicker. Especially PWO.

Leaned out quick even though I was bulking and taking in near 5000 cals. (Tren helped but Peptides def made a difference)

Glad to see you decided to run them Swifto. Ill be watching this log. Good luck!

I'm enjoying them so far and if anyone tells you their shit, they didnt use legit peptides, or just haven't run them and are going on what others have said (probably used bunk products).

I like them from the limited time I have been using them.

[Swifto]

Just did another IM shot (pre-bed), same again. I flush to much I actuallt start sweating on my forehead.

I will carry on IM shots and then up date this with body weight etc... At the end of the week.

[956Vette]

Just did another IM shot (pre-bed), same again. I flush to much I actuallt start sweating on my forehead.

I will carry on IM shots and then up date this with body weight etc... At the end of the week.

Dont do this to yourself Swifto - subq! Why IM?

[lovbyts]

I'm thinking if it kicks in that quick and that strong then it may have a lot shorter half life so even at 3x a day you may only be getting 1hr or so out of each shot. Just a theory.

[M302_Imola]

Just did my first IM shot and f*ck me, I'm bright red! I did do fair dose of about 150mcg of each CJC and GHRP-6, but its given me the flushing feeling faster. Will report back if I get anything else (hand numbness) in the next few hours.

I dont actually like doing IM shots with water based meds, the chances of infection are higher and because of scar tissue. Sub-q is pretty quick and easy to do. I'm also doing IM shots EOD at present, with Winstrol and Test Prop.

How are you liking the winstrol depot? How does it compare to oral winny?

[Dukkit]

I'm thinking if it kicks in that quick and that strong then it may have a lot shorter half life so even at 3x a day you may only be getting 1hr or so out of each shot. Just a theory.

Which means technically he could shoot more often and get more GH pulses.

I know a lot of fellas who shoot peptides every 3 hours. Thats about as long as it takes for your Gh to re-up and for it to be able to fully pulse again.

[DanB]

has anybody seen any of theorys that say a 5x day dose protocol will raise baseline gh and give virtually same effect as hgh, I cant remember if there is studys to back it up or its just theory, I'll have a look . . . .

[DanB]

dukkit to your mates who dose like that keep doing it week in week out or do they do it in bursts because dat reckons you cant run this for prolonged periods?

[Swifto]

Dont do this to yourself Swifto - subq! Why IM?

I'm actually not going to bother anymore, I'm pretty sure it makes my heart rate increase a fair bit too. I literally go red all over my face and chest like a rash, cant be healthy.

I'll stick with sub-q.

IM shots may be worthwhile PWO when nutrient uptake is increased post exercise...

I may try an sub-q shot and take BP, then do it again with an IM shot, just to see how it compares to baseline levels (if it changes at all).

[Swifto]

How are you liking the winstrol depot? How does it compare to oral winny?

Winstrol Depot = Injectable winstrol. Its painless to inject I have found (not sore afterwards) and sometimes I mix the shot with oil and its less painless.

There is around a 17-20% difference in nitrogen retention when comparing depot vs. oral, depot being more effective. 50mg/EOD depot is enough for me.

[Swifto]

I did 100mcg of CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 about 1hour ago, then ate some tinned pineapple and some chicken breasts (around 70g CHO 70g PRO), just took my BP and its 127/52. Which is about right for me, if anything, its ever so slightly elevated. Usually, I'm about 115-120/50. Thats difference is probably the tightness of the strap if I'm honest.

[DanB]

has anybody seen any of theorys that say a 5x day dose protocol will raise baseline gh and give virtually same effect as hgh, I cant remember if there is studys to back it up or its just theory, I'll have a look . . . .

just theory no studys, but I see a couple here have tried it. . . .

[M302_Imola]

Winstrol Depot = Injectable winstrol. Its painless to inject I have found (not sore afterwards) and sometimes I mix the shot with oil and its less painless.

There is around a 17-20% difference in nitrogen retention when comparing depot vs. oral, depot being more effective. 50mg/EOD depot is enough for me.

Thanks for breakdown, yes I know winstrol depot = injectable winstrol. I'm assuming your injectable winstrol is water based? That's great it's not causing much discomfort around injection site as I've heard it can sting like a bitch. My source has oil based injectable winstrol which I thought about giving a go next cycle...figured the oil based would be less painful. So 17-20% more nitrogen retention with injectable...thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. So when you run oral you probably run around 80-100mg ED?

[Anabolicdoode]

Just did another IM shot (pre-bed), same again. I flush to much I actuallt start sweating on my forehead.

I will carry on IM shots and then up date this with body weight etc... At the end of the week.

When you were doing your IM shot were you doing different site injections, or same place as your subq?

[Swifto]

When you were doing your IM shot were you doing different site injections, or same place as your subq?

I've done probably three IM (2 delts, 1 quads).

I'm back on sub-q.

New up date tomorrow.

[Overdoze]

I've done probably three IM (2 delts, 1 quads).

I'm back on sub-q.

New up date tomorrow.

bump

[Swifto]

I will up date this tomorrow...

[Wonder_Juice]

new up date tomorrow.

:d :d :d

[Swifto]

Sorry for the late update.

I'm currently around 220lbs and leaner than I have ever been and I'm almost 100% sure it due to the peptides. My overall cals havent changed a great deal, although I have reduced carbs ever so slightly. I am looking full and lean.

I have added Winstrol for a few weeks now which has added to the effect, but only 50mg/EOD injectable. Currently waiting on some Mast Prop that I may add, or wait till the weather imporves in the UK, but it will be at a very small dose again, 50-75mg/EOD and also Sust 250mg every 7 days. I have run cycles like this before but the added benifit of the peptides is definitely apparent.

Sleeping is still deep. I find if I go higher on the pre-bed dosing when I wake in the AM my hands are numb. Really feel the added GH release over the night with the higher dose in the AM.

Sides are still itching at the site, I'm not sure this can be avoided. Just dont itch them!

Strength is also up, I'm hitting weights I havent done before, but my body dose LOVE Winstrol.

Will update again at the end of the week...

[OnTheSauce]

good stuff man. Ive been doing all IM shots for about 3 weeks now. biceps, triceps, delts rotating with sub q occasionally.

[ironbeck]

why/// why// did this thread stop? it was like reading a real life thriller and some one tore the book out of my hand! very interesting and love to learn new things for improvements
.

[Swifto]

good stuff man. Ive been doing all IM shots for about 3 weeks now. biceps, triceps, delts rotating with sub q occasionally.

I cant do the IM shots as my head feels like its going to pop off.

I'm really noticing the fat loss now. My diet (admitedly) hasnt been excellent recently and I am still looking good.

Strength is up on all lifts, pumps are more intense.

The sleeping has warn off a little now, I'm more energetic, rather than tired.

Susto 250mg/wk, 50mg/EOD Winstrol (inj) and 100mcg 2x day, AM and pre-bed is what I'm on now and havent looked better. It has to be the peptides as I have been on far heavier cycles than this.

I'm getting BW done next week so will be intresting to see whats going on inside.

I will update this more often, apologies for not being so on the ball with it, I have not been online an awful lot recently.

[lovbyts]

I cant do the IM shots as my head feels like its going to pop off.

I'm really noticing the fat loss now. My diet (admitedly) hasnt been excellent recently and I am still looking good.

Strength is up on all lifts, pumps are more intense.

The sleeping has warn off a little now, I'm more energetic, rather than tired.

Susto 250mg/wk, 50mg/EOD Winstrol (inj) and 100mcg 2x day, AM and pre-bed is what I'm on now and havent looked better. It has to be the peptides as I have been on far heavier cycles than this.

I'm getting BW done next week so will be intresting to see whats going on inside.

I will update this more often, apologies for not being so on the ball with it, I have not been online an awful lot recently.

Are you using the brand you had pictured originally? When I ran out of the OTHER brand I was using and started the same one you had pictured I noticed the hot flushing stopped even if I use quite a bit more of the CJG. Make me a little suspect of it's quality.

[S&S_ShovelHead]

Really interested in BW.

[Swifto]

Are you using the brand you had pictured originally? When I ran out of the OTHER brand I was using and started the same one you had pictured I noticed the hot flushing stopped even if I use quite a bit more of the CJG. Make me a little suspect of it's quality.

I'm using the same brand I had pictured and the flushing has not been as pronounced recently, but still happens every do often (not always even from the same bottle).

[Swifto]

Just did an IM shot again, larger one of 150mcg of each CJC/GHRP-6 and its blown my head off again.

Flushed and sweating 1minute after injected.

Go hard of go home.

[lovbyts]

Interesting. Maybe I need to try the IM, I have only been doing SQ but the difference was immediate after changing brands. I started with an OLD bottle of original CJC straight from the manufacture years ago before it was even discussed on here much and I also got the same flushing/hot feeling even with a small amount. I use to use it combined with my prescription HGH I was getting in the thoughts it would prolong the half life also.

[956Vette]

Interesting. Maybe I need to try the IM, I have only been doing SQ....

Please continue with subcutaneous injection - best advice to swifto is to quit IM - not worthwhile imho

[Swifto]

Please continue with subcutaneous injection - best advice to swifto is to quit IM - not worthwhile imho

I will mate.

[yannick35]

Swifto can peptides be used combined with GH to repair ligaments, or do add to a rehab program? thanks

[Swifto]

Swifto can peptides be used combined with GH to repair ligaments, or do add to a rehab program? thanks

Yes, peptideds can work along side synthetic GH, but I have no experience in that.

Some may here...

[Chuckdiesel]

Here is a little bit more info I feel is worthwhile noting...So Its been about 3 months or so since I had started using the peptides. During the time using them I experienced a leaner frame, more strength, better recovery between sets, improved sleep quality, and so on. Just recently I had quit using the peptide, a little over 2 weeks to be exact, and wow, what a difference! All the extra benefits that the peptides had brought forth seemed to vanish, and pretty damn quick lol. Most noticeable change is my energy levels and leanness. I will be surely going back on the peptides as quick as they can get to my door!

Please continue with subcutaneous injection - best advice to swifto is to quit IM - not worthwhile imho

Im curious as to why you oppose IM injections? Through the course of my research I had done both, sub q and IM, and both seemed to run their course just fine. The only difference I noticed was the time it took for the sides to appear. Everything I had researched, read and experienced shows very little difference to the effectiveness and safety to using peptides with either a sub q or IM administration.

[Chuckdiesel]

Another note...There was no reason I had quit using the peptides. Its all about research and finding what works and how well and so on. I had run out of my supply that I had on hand and decided to note any difference when on and off the peptides. I can surely say there is definitely a difference and these peptides really do what they are intended and designed to do! I am a firm believer in the power of these peptides and will continue for a long, long time!

[OnTheSauce]

I start to bruise if I do sub q too many days in a row. Rotating sites IM is my preferred way.

[Chuckdiesel]

I start to bruise if I do sub q too many days in a row. Rotating sites IM is my preferred way.

I agree with ya...I dont experience any bruising but the sites I do sub q too frequently seen to be tougher, as if it was like scar tissue. It doesn't hurt at all but the pin has a bit more trouble piercing the site. I like to rotate sub q and IM all over my body. I've done legs, arms, shoulders and everywhere in between. It all seems to give me the same effect, though IM appears to kick in faster than sub q. My morning, evening, and when I choose to do one preworkout I do sub q but if I do one post workout I do it IM.

[RotorHead]

Great log. Im anticipating your blood work to see whats goin on in there!

[Swifto]

My pack has been seized before it even left the USA, w*ankers.

If you're reading this, suck my f*cking dick LEA's.

Dropped some weight after stopping, but having another pack sent out. I'm also going to be running GH soon 4ius/ED and may run them together (peps/GH).