Insulin THAT much of a game changers?

**charger69** · 10-11-2018, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

That being said. What would you recommend for me? Suggestion for bulk run?

Eat a lot of candy, let your receptors rest (go off cycle), but keep up the carbs with beer.
Absolutely no slin. It is bad for you!
I just saved GH typing. LOL

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**Capebuffalo** · 10-11-2018, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

Eat a lot of candy, let your receptors rest (go off cycle), but keep up the carbs with beer.
Absolutely no slin. It is bad for you!
I just saved GH typing. LOL

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Thanks for your input. Unfortunately I am no longer allowing negativity into my circle of life. You are herby banned to the shadow lands. Please enjoy your misery there. Best wishes Cape.

**Kay kay** · 10-11-2018, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

What are your stats KK?

Sorry if this is my Second reply not sure if first one worked.

I’m 23 yr 6ft and ended last bulk at 233lb and about 14% bf, currently cutting at 222lb, down mainly water and glycogen and perhaps at 13%bf now. Was holding a decent bit of water and carbs are down from 650g plus a day to an average of 250 a day with my carb cycling.

**GearHeaded** · 10-12-2018, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

That being said. What would you recommend for me? Suggestion for bulk run?

if you been on gear for the majority of the time over the last 6 months or so, and you been using a lot of the same gear , I'd try to mix it up with some things you haven't used or at least not in quite some time. and focus on synergy , stacking compounds not just because you like them, but because they enhance each other (eg., run a class 1 and a class 2 steroid together, instead of running just two class 2's together).

lets say you been using a lot of moderate dose test and tren as your main compounds over the last year or so. Well change it up where you go with a really low dose of Test, 200mg, stacked with other estrogenic and androgenic compounds and some Anaboics use. OR do the opposite where your running a very high dose of test, 1500mg, no other androgens, and some anabolics.

some examples

test - 200mg a week
Dbol - 100mg a day
Masteron - 100mg per day
NPP- 100mg per day
Insulin with test suspension

or
test - 1500mg per week
Superdrol - 30mg per day
Winstrol - 50mg per day
Npp- 100mg per day
insulin with HGH or a GHRPs

each of these have a good blend of estrogenic, androgenic, and anabolic properties. but achieving it in different ways.

example 1 - you don't get your androgenic nor your estrogenic basis from testosterone here, , your getting your estrogen from the Dbol and your androgenic effects from the Mast (which works as both an androgenic and anabolic). NPP is your main anabolic here.

example 2 - you are getting most of your androgenic and your estrogenic base from the 1500mg of test. so all we need to do here is add in a strong amount of anabolic. Superdrol, is probably the strongest in regards to anabolic to androgenic (its like 40x more anabolic then androgenic), then we add in the Winstrol as another anabolic for synergy (cause of its effects on SHBG) and then NPP again as our main anabolic.

Another idea, which would be similar to how I laid out 'phases' in the advanced AAS protocols thread, is to break it down where instead of having all three (androgen, estrogen, anabolic) ran in unison together in ONE cycle, you break it down and run each of those in its given phases (but this is a more long term effect where you repeat the phases over and over during consistent 6 week blasts).

**charger69** · 10-12-2018, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

if you been on gear for the majority of the time over the last 6 months or so, and you been using a lot of the same gear , I'd try to mix it up with some things you haven't used or at least not in quite some time. and focus on synergy , stacking compounds not just because you like them, but because they enhance each other (eg., run a class 1 and a class 2 steroid together, instead of running just two class 2's together).

lets say you been using a lot of moderate dose test and tren as your main compounds over the last year or so. Well change it up where you go with a really low dose of Test, 200mg, stacked with other estrogenic and androgenic compounds and some Anaboics use. OR do the opposite where your running a very high dose of test, 1500mg, no other androgens, and some anabolics.

some examples

test - 200mg a week
Dbol - 100mg a day
Masteron - 100mg per day
NPP- 100mg per day
Insulin with test suspension

or
test - 1500mg per week
Superdrol - 30mg per day
Winstrol - 50mg per day
Npp- 100mg per day
insulin with HGH or a GHRPs

each of these have a good blend of estrogenic, androgenic, and anabolic properties. but achieving it in different ways.

example 1 - your don't get your androgenic nor your estrogenic basis from testosterone here, , your getting your estrogen from the Dbol and your androgenic effects from the Mast (which works as both an androgenic and anabolic). NPP is your main anabolic here.

example 2 - you are getting most of your androgenic and your estrogenic base from the 1500mg of test. so all we need to do here is add in a strong amount of anabolic. Superdrol, is probably the strongest in regards to anabolic to androgenic (its like 40x more anabolic then androgenic), then we add in the Winstrol as another anabolic for synergy (cause of its effects on SHBG) and then NPP again as our main anabolic.

Another idea, which would be similar to how I laid out 'phases' in the advanced AAS protocols thread, is to break it down where instead of having all three (androgen, estrogen, anabolic) ran in unison together in ONE cycle, you break it down and run each of those in its given phases (but this is a more long term effect where you repeat the phases over and over during consistent 6 week blasts).

GH- I thought my cycle layout was better. LOL

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**Capebuffalo** · 10-12-2018, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

GH- I thought my cycle layout was better. LOL

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It wasn’t.

Thank you gh.

**kelkel** · 10-12-2018, 11:52 AM

This is killing me. I'm pulling BW on Monday and if all is well starting something. Exactly what at this point is a toss up at the moment.

**Capebuffalo** · 10-12-2018, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

This is killing me. I'm pulling BW on Monday and if all is well starting something. Exactly what at this point is a toss up at the moment.

I’m coming for Charger first. Then I’m coming for you Kel ( insert long evil laugh)

**Capebuffalo** · 10-12-2018, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

This is killing me. I'm pulling BW on Monday and if all is well starting something. Exactly what at this point is a toss up at the moment.

I’m coming for Charger first. Then I’m coming for you Kel ( insert long evil laugh)

**Capebuffalo** · 10-12-2018, 12:54 PM

So GH what would the protocol look like for

test - 200mg a week
Dbol - 100mg a day
Masteron - 100mg per day
NPP- 100mg per day
Insulin with test suspension

**Capebuffalo** · 10-13-2018, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

So GH what would the protocol look like for

test - 200mg a week
Dbol - 100mg a day
Masteron - 100mg per day
NPP- 100mg per day
Insulin with test suspension

Mostly for the slin and suspension. Both pre and post workout?

**GearHeaded** · 10-13-2018, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

So GH what would the protocol look like for

test - 200mg a week
Dbol - 100mg a day
Masteron - 100mg per day
NPP- 100mg per day
Insulin with test suspension

Mostly for the slin and suspension. Both pre and post workout?

for slin and test suspension your protocol will stay very similar to what it is with the insulin now. the only difference is that you want to drop your pre-workout insulin dose back down to 5iu while running test suspension , until you get a feel for where your blood sugars run with the suspension mixed in (as the suspension is going to make you more insulin sensitive . . . ie.., with the test suspension in there you have more chance of going hypo).
You'll pin 100-200mg of suspension about 45 mins before your workout. then stick with your normal insulin protocol but with lower amounts of slin to start until you know your tolerance and know you won't go hypo

**Capebuffalo** · 10-13-2018, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

for slin and test suspension your protocol will stay very similar to what it is with the insulin now. the only difference is that you want to drop your pre-workout insulin dose back down to 5iu while running test suspension , until you get a feel for where your blood sugars run with the suspension mixed in (as the suspension is going to make you more insulin sensitive . . . ie.., with the test suspension in there you have more chance of going hypo).
You'll pin 100-200mg of suspension about 45 mins before your workout. then stick with your normal insulin protocol but with lower amounts of slin to start until you know your tolerance and know you won't go hypo

Got it. Thank you.

**Frank777** · 12-24-2022, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by amyst

Just read in the news that California will start producing own insulin in 2024.
I think it is a huge game changer, right?

I also read about it and I agree that this is great news. Being a diabetic, I know how many people require medication and how important insulin is for many of them (since I read about Ozempic Online and talked to my doctor, I switched to it and don't take insulin anymore). Moreover, Californian insulin is supposed to be cheaper.