1st cycle - Test E & Winny

[antiVtec=-]

Hey guys.

I am 5,8. 159 pounds and have around 12 % bf.

I am on the 2nd week of the following cycle:

Week 1 - 3 Test E 400mg/week
Week 4 - 7 TEst E 400mg/week --- aromasin 20mg ED
Week 7-10 Test E 400mg/week -- Winny 50mg/EOD -- Aromasin 20mg/ED
Week 11- Winny 50 mg/EOD -- aromasin 20mg ED
PCT just Nolva

First injection was a lil bit scary, took me a good 2 minutes to be able to do it, was a lil bit painfull 2. I moved the seringe a whole lot in there. (Injection directions on steroid .com are great). I ll keep posting and hopefully this will be of use for someone in the future. Ahh yea.. i have gained 3 pounds but not much change....

I am now on my second week of Test E and not much is going on besides a few good pumps and a lil acne. I heard that the third week is when it starts to really kick in... Looking forward to that..

[5ifthCitizen]

first injection is always the hardest. best thing to do is just put it in quick. cycle looks good. some might say you're too light but 162 at 5'8 is like being about 190 at 6' and it looks like you have a good base in your avatar. keep us posted man. keep workin hard!

[antiVtec=-]

I am now on the second day of the third week of my cycle. The test hasn t really kicked in 2 much... I get pretty damn good pumps and the strength has shot up a whole lot but not really gainning much weight(3-4 pounds so far). Diet is pretty damn clean and my daily calorie intake is prolly about 3000 - 3500. (Really don't feel like writing down everything i eat daily). I wish i had frontloaded.... Oh well...

[antiVtec=-]

I was thinking about going up to 500mg / week... Would that be a good idea? And also.. my nipples are getting pretty weird and hard... Should i start on the aromasin already? I don t wanna make the lil gyno i have from a stupid cycle of superdrol a year ago into a lot of gyno.???

[5ifthCitizen]

I was thinking about going up to 500mg / week... Would that be a good idea? And also.. my nipples are getting pretty weird and hard... Should i start on the aromasin already? I don t wanna make the lil gyno i have from a stupid cycle of superdrol a year ago into a lot of gyno.???

I would definately up the calories. 3000-3500 is probably a maintaining range for your body. try that before you up to 500mg. 400mg/week is plenty for a first cycle. and yea you could go ahead and start the aromasin . you could probably cut the dosage in half tho and try that out first. it may slightly hinder your gains but its definately better than having gyno. keep posting man

[antiVtec=-]

yea... i am gonna start on the aromasin today.

[antiVtec=-]

Today is injection # 6 day.... Ever since the beginning of the 3rd week I started to see more solid progress... Went and got a scale at wallgreens when I started the cycle(159 pounds). I always weigh myself in the morning with no clothes(depends what u wearing you can easily add a pound or much more more to your weight). Today my weight was 165. So 6 pounds so far..
I am also trying to step up my diet to over 3500 cals. but somedays I can't even fit that much. It is working good now but I am still waiting for the test to really kick in all the way.

[5ifthCitizen]

if u wake up at 8 every morning and eat an average of 600 cals per meal for the whole day every 2.5 hours til 10 you'll be able to get in 3600 a day. hard part is making urself get up early enough to eat a good breakfast so then you'll be hungry for an early lunch and so on...

[TheGuardian]

2300 cals is maintenance for his stats.

[antiVtec=-]

Thanks for keeping up with me guys.

I just did 7th injection earlier today, still haven't gained much weight.. about 4.5 pounds now but i do look way more pumped and arms are starting to grow. oo yea.. pretty scary pumps (scary in a good way). I don't think it is at full effect yet. At least i hope not... It better keep going up. A few days back during my chest workout bench pressed 250 pounds 6 clean times and 2 with spot. Great increase from my 225 only 5 reps from before the cycle. Seems like abs are popin out more too... I am liking it... Besides not been able to drink on st patrick's day everything is cool. (I was the ONLY person sober in florida i believe lol). Anyways i'll keep yall updated.

[5ifthCitizen]

2300 cals is maintenance for his stats.

guardian, the harris-benedict formula is used by all certified personal trainers.

BMR = 66 + (13.7 * weight in kilos) + (5 * height in cm) - (6.8 * age in years)

66 + (13.7 *75) + (5*172.72) - (6.8 *22) age guessed...

= 1807.5

1807.5 + .5(1807.5) = 2711.25 ; .5(1807.5) for energy expenditure factor

2711.25(.1) = 271.125 for thermic effect of food

2711.25 + 271.125 =

2982.375

This is his daily maintenance caloric intake under moderate physical activity which is probably an underestimate since he's probably in the gym everyday and has an increased metabolism bc of the gear he's taking.

Anything else??

[testisbest]

you gotta take the winny EVERY DAY.

[5ifthCitizen]

hows the weight comin man?

[MartyMcFly]

you gotta take the winny EVERY DAY.

He speaks the truth.

[antiVtec=-]

Hey guys. Sorry havent posted in a while... I have been reall busy with work and was also waiting for a lil more gain to come around so I could post some more.. Thanks for the help pg (for the formula and such). Anyways, my 9th injection was on monday I now have gained 7 to 7.5 pounds.... Working out like a maniac... I feel like i could go forever when i am out there. I know this is a good thing but it kinda sucks at times... I get hungry every hour and a half and it's hard to keep up with this bottomless pit i have going on in me lol.
I will start the winny next monday, still not sure if i am gonna get the 15 pounds i want but for sure working on it. I wish i could get a hold of my guy to get more test E... He doesn t answer and the 20cc i have looks waaaayyy passed half way empty... My guess is i ll have test for only 9 weeks (hopefully). So I am starting the winny on week 6 so i can finish it on week 10 which will be the right time to jump on the nolva(1 week after test is done). Well that s whats up... DO u guys think i can put on anouther 8 to 10 pounds on the remainning 5 weeks??

[antiVtec=-]

Ooo and also.. when does the steroid induced acne start popin up? ANd about shooting the winny every day.. DO I REALLY HAVE TO??? Id rather not

[antiVtec=-]

I' ve been researching and found out that the right thing is to use the winstrol ED instead of EOD so I am gonna do that instead starting the winny on week 9 - 11. It's gonna really suck to inject everyday...oh well...

[ChiTownTommy]

I' ve been researching and found out that the right thing is to use the winstrol ED instead of EOD so I am gonna do that instead starting the winny on week 9 - 11. It's gonna really suck to inject everyday...oh well...

just drink the winny then

[ddiggler]

everybody on here told me to take the winny everyday and drink it.it hurts to much to shoot

[antiVtec=-]

yea I am gonna inject it as much as I can but also drink it sometimes... It is much more liver toxic that way and I believe u have to take a extra 12 or 17 mg to compensate for drinking it.
I also just checked my weight and I am at 173 right now... I will probably wake up tomorow around 170 empty stomach... Progress is coming slow but steady... GOOD stuff

[antiVtec=-]

I just got done with the 13th injection(week 7). Starting to act up more and more as time goes by.... I was able to put my hands on another 10ccs of Test so I will be going the 12 weeks... As of today I have gained 11 pounds and it kinda shows .Been waking up at 170 flat... I am not really getting any bloating if anything i am looking bigger and more cut than ever)can't wait to start the winny on week 11-- GET RIPPED!!! lol. Aight I'll keep u guys posted. I forgot.. I also have increased Test to 500 mg/week since i got some to spare now. My cycle will look like this now:

Week 1 - 3 Test E 400 mg/week
Week 3 - 6 Test E 400 mg/week - Aromasin 20mg/ED
Week 7 - 11 Test E 500mg/week - Aromasin 20mg/ED
Week 12 Test E 500mg/week - Winstrol 50mg/ED - Aromasin
Week 13 - 14 Winstrol 50 mg/ED

Nolva for PCT

[antiVtec=-]

Woke up at 171.. anouther pound lol.

[antiVtec=-]

Today I used up my last cc of winstrol so the cycle is done... SUcks that I had 3 weeks away from the gym because of two shoulder injuries (one of em caused by a winstrol injection on the right delt) -> Don t ever do that... My shoulder was swolen and hurting a lot for about a week. I woke up this morning at 176 pounds... Gained a total of 17 pounds.... Hopefully coming off won't be too hard.....

[K.Biz]

impressive traps i must say

[antiVtec=-]

Thank you lol

[***xxx***]

looking good

[millionairemurph]

nice traps!! dam!

[antiVtec=-]

lol thanks. . Today I woke up at 168.5 already lost 7 and half pounds since i got off... That sucks. I couldn t get any HCG but did run nolva for pct and also been taking some creatine and some REDTEST. It seems like I have already lost the weight I was suposssed to lose, have been at 168.5 for about almost 2 weeks now. So Pretty much I kept 9.5 pounds out of this cycle.. I dont think it's that bad I look much bigger than before (at least that s what my buddys say).

[Kimo27]

you could have kept all the weight if you just did a proper PCT... O well lesson learned right?

[RoadToRecovery]

what kinda pct is recommended for a cycle like this????

[athlete20]

what kinda pct is recommended for a cycle like this????

Torem and Aromasin .

[antiVtec=-]

I tried to get aromasin ... actually I just got it yesterday but it's to late now. I ll save it for my next cycle. What is torem??