1 month progress

**termostat** · 03-25-2008, 05:46 AM

Hello guys

I asked advice 1 month ago here on forums and here is my result in 4 weeks

please review progress and any opinions are welcome
Feb 24 - March 25
Before: height/weight 192/75.5 kg/BF unknown (estimate 11%) (age 25)
After: 192/81 kg/bf still 11% probably (couldnt measure)

Gained about 5.5 kilos and around 3-3.5 cm increase in arms

because not all steroids are available in my country and with respect to what forums + trainer said, i did following

deca /test e both 200 mg/week
nolvadex
anabol (pills took progressive-regressive with peak mid month)

no signs of side effects so far

before

after

btw my arms are always like a stone (like just out of workout) is it deca that makes it so?

cheers

**jbonez19** · 03-25-2008, 06:01 AM

oh shit......dude. wtf. who told you to start using steroids ? they really need their heads read. bro you have years of work to do before you should consider using steroids again. you should stop now! do pct, and get back to some hard training, if you have.... guys? help me out here. you are not, by any stretch of the imagination ready to do AS. you need to learn how to train properly and how to eat properly. sorry if that sounds harsh bro, but seriously, you need to learn how to lift first.

**termostat** · 03-25-2008, 06:18 AM

yo jbonez i look like your avatar! rofl

friend unfortunately my professional work regime won't allow me to put as much time in training and eating (tho i try hard and eat at least 2000+ calories per day)

i only want to bulk up with 1 cycle then try to keep it up normally

please believe i am a really hard gainer i do eat much btw 7 meals a day, yes carbs/protein/vitamins amino fat etc etc, end of day all goes to toilet xD

and yes i will stop either now or +1 month and PCT and stop thanks for advices you guys give me here, thats why i ask here. will i lose everything when i stop? are my gains water retention?

**ChuckLee** · 03-25-2008, 06:39 AM

Termos...how old are you, how much are you tall?

**termostat** · 03-25-2008, 06:46 AM

hi Chucklee
6'3 (192 cm) 25 years old . 2 yrs lifting after backbone injury during football (im ex swimmer)

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 06:53 AM

Please Can U Post Me Ur Diet Immedialty

**jbonez19** · 03-25-2008, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by termostat

yo jbonez i look like your avatar! rofl

friend unfortunately my professional work regime won't allow me to put as much time in training and eating (tho i try hard and eat at least 2000+ calories per day)

i only want to bulk up with 1 cycle then try to keep it up normally

please believe i am a really hard gainer i do eat much btw 7 meals a day, yes carbs/protein/vitamins amino fat etc etc, end of day all goes to toilet xD

and yes i will stop either now or +1 month and PCT and stop thanks for advices you guys give me here, thats why i ask here. will i lose everything when i stop? are my gains water retention?

o.k. bro. whatever you say. just please do a proper pct. it will help u to keep any gains u do make. good luck my friend

**ChuckLee** · 03-25-2008, 06:57 AM

I guess you were tall.
I have to agree w/my friend jbonez...maybe he's been a bit hard with you (because he's way heavier

) but he's right, in fact you shouldn't be on gears while you can't reach 2000+ cals in a bulk diet, because with just a better and more complete diet you will gain more than what any AAS would give you. Stop it and run a full PCT to fully recover, start to train and EAT heavier, EAT and EAT. You haven't reached your natural limit yet, as your pics show, so don't mess with roids yet or you're gonna waste money and health.
OH, don't forget to EAT. Consult the diet forum, the first thing to read in AR.

CL

**ChuckLee** · 03-25-2008, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

Please Can U Post Me Ur Diet Immedialty

Is it you in those pics Diablo?

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

Is it you in those pics Diablo?

Yes it is.. When i turned 15..

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 07:01 AM

Lets not flame him but rather help this guy out....

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 07:02 AM

JUST EAT.. 12000 calories a day +

**jbonez19** · 03-25-2008, 07:05 AM

here is some videos for you termo. there are six. you should watch them all if you have time. you are ectomorph if you were wondering later. as ChuckLee said i'll sell you some of my fat to burn for energy if u want. haha. good luck again. http://www.dailymotion.com/related/4...ar-pt1_extreme

**Panzerfaust80** · 03-25-2008, 07:06 AM

I think you need to start eating a shit load more. legs I see massive improvement, so thats good... but it looks you got a massive chunk missing from ur left ankle!!! is that a tat or something lol?? also im not sayin do more but 200 mg a week of both compounds isnt shit, most people use 400 of deca and 500 mg of test to see decent results. who told u about that cycle? same guy that got the gear for u??

btw i love the blue medicine ball places ever-so-subtley in the background, demonstrating how hardcore u are!!!

**Dukkit** · 03-25-2008, 07:07 AM

wow. you need to eat more bro. and what does your training split look like? what do you work and when?? days off? you basically need everything looked at and tweaked if you want to see gains.

**ChuckLee** · 03-25-2008, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

JUST EAT.. 12000 calories a day +

Not flaming huh

**jbonez19** · 03-25-2008, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

JUST EAT.. 12000 calories a day +

a little too much maybe, but you get the idea. you also need to do heavy compound excersizes. squats, bench press, military press, dips, chins and deadlifts(depending on your back). heavy as you can.

**jbonez19** · 03-25-2008, 07:13 AM

[QUOTE=Panzerfaust80;3889453]I think you need to start eating a shit load more. legs I see massive improvement, so thats good... but it looks you got a massive chunk missing from ur left ankle!!! is that a tat or something lol?? also im not sayin do more but 200 mg a week of both compounds isnt shit, most people use 400 of deca and 500 mg of test to see decent results. who told u about that cycle? same guy that got the gear for u??

btw i love the blue medicine ball places ever-so-subtley in the background, demonstrating how hardcore u are!!!

[/QUOTE]

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

Not flaming huh

HHAHAH!... Hay u guys ....if that other dude did it.... U know the one that did it naturally but in his pics it shows signs of Gyno then he can..So STOP fcvking with me.... ! lol

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 07:16 AM

And where da hell did u buy those underpants from .. ? FLIPSAKES!

Originally Posted by termostat

Hello guys

I asked advice 1 month ago here on forums and here is my result in 4 weeks

please review progress and any opinions are welcome
Feb 24 - March 25
Before: height/weight 192/75.5 kg/BF unknown (estimate 11%) (age 25)
After: 192/81 kg/bf still 11% probably (couldnt measure)

Gained about 5.5 kilos and around 3-3.5 cm increase in arms

because not all steroids are available in my country and with respect to what forums + trainer said, i did following

deca /test e both 200 mg/week
nolvadex
anabol (pills took progressive-regressive with peak mid month)

no signs of side effects so far

before

after

btw my arms are always like a stone (like just out of workout) is it deca that makes it so?

cheers

**ChuckLee** · 03-25-2008, 07:22 AM

I think we've scared him. El Diablo is a baaaaad bad boy. He makes people cry

**jbonez19** · 03-25-2008, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

HHAHAH!... Hay u guys ....if that other dude did it.... U know the one that did it naturally but in his pics it shows signs of Gyno then he can..So STOP fcvking with me.... ! lol

someone told me off for saying that fat prick had gyno. that frickin' liar. "i'm natty", yeah sure u are fat boy, how come u look like a freakin' water balloon then.

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 07:23 AM

u blaming me again for everything. Thanks...for nothing

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by jbonez19

someone told me off for saying that fat prick had gyno. that frickin' liar. "i'm natty", yeah sure u are fat boy, how come u look like a freakin' water balloon then.

He was just using Muscle Tech's Anaplode and Anator and Anachuck and Anabioloic and Anamuff and Anailovedoingfatchicks ...All endorsed bye some kinda university and Jay Cutler

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 07:26 AM

JBOnez has roid Rage ...

**ChuckLee** · 03-25-2008, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

u blaming me again for everything. Thanks...for nothing

**jbonez19** · 03-25-2008, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

JBOnez has roid Rage...

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 07:33 AM

u should get off the Tren lol

**ChuckLee** · 03-25-2008, 07:37 AM

And add some lube

**termostat** · 03-25-2008, 10:20 AM

Yo guys, so many replies so fast! I try to answer all questions now

yes i'm now officially OFF cycle. Will wait 21 days, then do Nolva for 6 weeks 20mg per day. And end with it.

I work at a car tuning company, but i'm there from 8 am - 8 pm (that includes only 1 meal as lunch, the rest i bring with myself, potatoes, chocolate bars etc).

That thing on my foot is birth-mark? whatever it is called, pigment

Now to minimise my losses i plan to eat shitload, like everything (maybe except way too fatty stuff). Currently i ate
6:00 am amino, creatine, gainer
8:00 am 4-5 eggs breakfast
11:00 am chocolate bar, amino acids
13:00 chicken breast, rice/potatoes+salads+soup+bread
15:00 chocolate bar, redbull etc whatever
17:00 potatoes, anabol pills
19:00 chocolate bar+tea
20:30 300-400g beef steak, rice, salad
22:00 potatoes/rice+sweet cookies or smth
24:00 gainer/amino/creatine
sleep

my excercising is rather limited because of my backbone injury i had few years ago, so i do most excercises with back fixed. I currently lift rather hard, doing what i can do 8 reps, 4 sets (sometimes trainer tells to do 5th set where i completely die without enough rest, lose power and have to decrease weight by 50%-60% for other sets. Is that a good way of workout?) Mostly compound excercises like bench press (the rest i dont know name in english)

**termostat** · 03-25-2008, 10:22 AM

btw those under pants are pro

i dont walk in armani versace all day xD

***El Diablo*** · 03-25-2008, 10:28 AM

Do yourself a HUGE favour. Go to the Diet Forum, look for a guy called "perfectbeast2001" he is the super duper Diet information analyst. He will give you exaclty the correct info you need mate. TRUST me this is an investment!

PS: Stay off the ASS. EAT BIG, SLEEP BIG and LIFT BIG... and cutout on the cocolate bars ....ill get there.... time

**AaronJM1984** · 03-25-2008, 10:36 AM

He said on his diet that he's taking Anabol pills...buddy you don't need to be taking Dbol either!

**termostat** · 03-25-2008, 10:48 AM

i stopped anabol too, i just described my last days of diet

yes i just added +30% of protein/carbs to my diet i like eat lots of protein/carbs + i will read as you pointed out El Diablo.
I go to lifting harder + eating harder, we see what happens in a month.

I have 2 last questions guys:
1) My muscles during cycle were always hard stone-like, was it because of Deca ?
2) Should I do a sperm quality checkup? Or is it no danger in my case?

Thanks bros for all advices. I'll be around

**AandF6969** · 03-25-2008, 10:52 AM

You need amounts on your foods... that diet is pretty shitty.

I'd recommend posting your workout and diet in the appropriate forums because something is SERIOUSLY wrong with one or both of them.

**Hudson** · 03-25-2008, 10:58 AM

Wow dude you work long days! You'd benefit from more sleep. I'd try to move the timings of your meals a little so you're getting a minimum of 7 hours sleep.

Good luck

**colo87** · 03-25-2008, 11:57 AM

I agree with everyone here kiid...gett off the aas and just start eatin wayyyyyyy more and hittin the gym hard believe me you're not eating enough now and need to change ur diet up quite a bit.