A cutting cycle

[InsaneMike]

I want to start a cutting cycle, i'm now busy with bringing down my bf, but I want to go some lower in carbs. Thats why I'm bringing in some gear.
Only im in a dillema.
I wanted a short esther cycle, but this is my 2nd cycle, so I don't want to start off with EOD pinches. I do want to experience it, so this is the way I want my cycle to be:
Start off with long esthers, and then end them with short esthers, the only problem is that the cycles ive created had to many gear stacked in them, I think. I'm going to post 2 cycles I thought about, starting off with the most insane:

Wk1 TestE 1000mg
Wk2 TestE 1000mg
Wk3-8 TestE 500mg
Wk1-8 TrenE 400mg
Wk7-12 MastP 150mg EOD
Wk 9-12 TestP 100mg EOD
Wk 2-12 T3 25-75mcg ED
Wk 5-12 HCG 500iu (2x250iu)
Wk 13-16 Nolva 40-40-20-20

Cycle2:
Wk1 TestE 1000mg&1000mg Boldonone
Wk2 TestE 1000mg&1000mg Boldenone
Wk3-8 TestE 500mg
Wk3-12 Boldenone 500mg
Wk6-12 T3 25-75mcg ED
Wk 13-16 Nolva 40-40-20-20


Ive thought about several things, but I cant see the trees trought the forrest anymore, could someone maybe help me...a 12-wks cycle starting off with long esther and ending with shortesther.
My goal with is getting hard, and I would REALLY want some more mass, even if that means I cant really get low in my diet, but off course I have to shred bodyfat

Tnxs!

[InsaneMike]

After some long thinking I've decided to run a 10-wks short ester cycle.

1tm10 TestProp
1tm8 TrenAce
5tm10 MastProp

3tm4 T3 25mcg
5tm7 T3 75mcg
8tm10 T3 25mcg
3tm4 clenbuterol max 120mcg
8tm10 clenbuterol max 120mcg

11tm15 nolvadex 40-40-20-20

[Johny-too-small]

This is only your second cycle? IMO, it too complicated and too much. You'll get fantastic results with much less. And your pct needs some work.

If I were you, id do this:

1-10: Test E @ 500 mg/ew
1-8: Tren @ 50 mg/ed
9-12: Test P @ 75 mg/ed.

I'll bet that you will get some good mass and perhaps some fatloss while still dealing with only a few compounds.

jmho.

[kaberle_15]

What are your starting stats man?

[InsaneMike]

I'm going to put in HCG in my PCT at wks 11&12, 2500iu 3times a wk.
I know this is a lot of gear but i still want to try it, still i'm thinking of removing the masteron , and only run testprop with trenace, my stats now are 88kg with 14%, my starting stats were 61kg with something like 20%.
I'm 1m70, sorry for the european metrics, I'm really gonna learn to post different but im now @ work and gotta go.

Should I leave the masterone in it of remove it???

[InsaneMike]

Anyone?