Amorphic's First Cycle log: NPP/Prop

[jAcKeD!!!!]

morph check yo p.m

[millionairemurph]

Subscribed. Ive fould delt shots to be more painfull than other areas. Also, when i first started doing quads, some spot hurts more than others. I know my nerves are all dead or less sensitive in some areas from getting kicked so i shoot there and i can even feel the pin going in, much less soreness later.

[Amorphic]

Subscribed. Ive fould delt shots to be more painfull than other areas. Also, when i first started doing quads, some spot hurts more than others. I know my nerves are all dead or less sensitive in some areas from getting kicked so i shoot there and i can even feel the pin going in, much less soreness later.

i see. thanks murph. im hoping the soreness goes away in a few days.

[doolo]

Hey, whats the prop dosed at? Is it based in Ethyl Oleate? Reason i ask is cause in my up coming cycle i have the choice between a more expensive EO based amp or regular 10ml viles.

[oneshot]

nice log. ill be following as well as im curious about npp results. for me, pec injections were the least painful but some people hate them.

[Kingweb50]

I will say its not the prop but its the lab you are using cause im using that lab with tren e and I have never felt the lasting pain from it untill I started the lab you are using a couple weeks ago.

[Amorphic]

Hey, whats the prop dosed at? Is it based in Ethyl Oleate? Reason i ask is cause in my up coming cycle i have the choice between a more expensive EO based amp or regular 10ml viles.

100mgs/ml, 10ml vial.

[Amorphic]

I will say its not the prop but its the lab you are using cause im using that lab with tren e and I have never felt the lasting pain from it untill I started the lab you are using a couple weeks ago.

yeah they are notorious for having high BA content. ive been limping hard all day and yesterday.

[Amorphic]

DAY 3

did another quad shot tonight. 25g 1 inch. Injecting is becoming very easy and simple.

The pain in my left quad is amazing. I hardly slept last night due to the pain. A little swelling near my knee which i found to be odd but no signs of redness or infection.

I will be working back and bi's tomorrow before work, i doubt i will feel any different but i will keep the intensity up.

When should i be noticing testicular atrophy? My boys seem to be fine for the moment.

I'm getting impatient waiting for everything to kick in!

[WEBB]

hey bro...

the pain you are feeling is from a few different sources and ahrd to pin point really....it is cause by, ba%, bb%, oil used, filtering process, powder source, cleanliness, and also how it was made... with swelling i would really be careful cause if it gets any worse get in to the doc and get some meds for it.... do not heat it as that can speed up infection, just watch it...if it is just muscle soreness or a deep bruise try and massage it, i know this hurts but i usually use a rolling pin and gently go over it until i can add more and more pressure...now this is only if it is not an infection, if it is meds are your best option, and better sooner than later...wait another day and pm me tomorrow night and let me know how you feel and ill judge from there....

now as for your balls, ahahaha...some guys dont get it and you might never know, i for one generally play with the boys daily so even if they got smaller playin with them daily would be hard to judge, just as we never reallly notice ourself changin till we see a old pic...ask you girl to take a check for you from week to week...also it should start to "kick In'' after the weekend around day 6 you should be really "on"....

[Amorphic]

hey bro...

the pain you are feeling is from a few different sources and ahrd to pin point really....it is cause by, ba%, bb%, oil used, filtering process, powder source, cleanliness, and also how it was made... with swelling i would really be careful cause if it gets any worse get in to the doc and get some meds for it.... do not heat it as that can speed up infection, just watch it...if it is just muscle soreness or a deep bruise try and massage it, i know this hurts but i usually use a rolling pin and gently go over it until i can add more and more pressure...now this is only if it is not an infection, if it is meds are your best option, and better sooner than later...wait another day and pm me tomorrow night and let me know how you feel and ill judge from there....

now as for your balls, ahahaha...some guys dont get it and you might never know, i for one generally play with the boys daily so even if they got smaller playin with them daily would be hard to judge, just as we never reallly notice ourself changin till we see a old pic...ask you girl to take a check for you from week to week...also it should start to "kick In'' after the weekend around day 6 you should be really "on"....

excellent. thanks WEBB. i'll let you know how things go tomrrow.

[WEBB]

also do as Rana says...try and do your shot in the am so you can stretch it out during the day, if yo udo it before bed you will lay there and it will not get worked in properly....if you cant do it in the morning find a time that works but before you train not after i think that could be part of the problem in your leg, if you trained legs, did your shot, then went to bed that could be a cause of the muscle soreness...pm me or facebook me if you need any more help....

[WEBB]

oh ya one more thing, after you get the two loaded in your syringe try and run the syringe(with out the needle attached) under some very hot running water to help increase viscosity...that helped me when i was using painful prop at 200mg/ml....

[dedic8ed1]

Wouldn't cotten seed oil or a low dose equipoise help with the discomfort of the injection?The low dose Ganabol was a staple for mixing with water base stingers like suspension or anything that causes pain when injected.

[CheddaNips]

Ahh i was gonna run this cycle next summer. See morph. i told you the pain from my omnas was no joke (and thats only 50mg Prop). Cut it and warm it before you shoot. Heating pad and rubbing afterwards.

[Amorphic]

DAY 4

Another successful injection. 22g 1.5" to the glute. my first quad shot still hurts mainly around my knee which is a bit of a concern to me. No redness or swelling anywhere and my injection technique is getting much smoother and better.

worked shoulders and tri's today and it was a good session. Although i doubt anything has kicked in, the psychological end of things along with the placebo effect is nice to keep me motivated. hopefully the results are not far off, within a few days i hope to be feeling something.

[10nispro]

What up morph? Glad to see you took the plunge. I did quads with test e and it was painful for days. Hurt each time my quad contracted. I found doing the injections at night seemed better than during the day. Also, I heated prop and that helped lots as well. Never did mix it with anything.

I will send you that lot# as requested. I also switched to a 20g 1 1/2 inch needle.

I will watch your thread and help as I can. Good Luck.

[--Trojan--]

finally a board with someone doing this cycle! subscribed! very interested to hear the effects on this one

[CheddaNips]

DAY 4

Another successful injection. 22g 1.5" to the glute. my first quad shot still hurts mainly around my knee which is a bit of a concern to me. No redness or swelling anywhere and my injection technique is getting much smoother and better.

worked shoulders and tri's today and it was a good session. Although i doubt anything has kicked in, the psychological end of things along with the placebo effect is nice to keep me motivated. hopefully the results are not far off, within a few days i hope to be feeling something.

Hy morph, does it hurt on the outside of your knee? I have felt that when I inject quads, gravity takes place and the oil seeps around twords your knee.

I have seen this when i inject delts too and the next day the pain is on the side of my tri and not my delt.

[Amorphic]

Hy morph, does it hurt on the outside of your knee? I have felt that when I inject quads, gravity takes place and the oil seeps around twords your knee.

I have seen this when i inject delts too and the next day the pain is on the side of my tri and not my delt.

yeah i think you may be on to something. also i think my injection technique on the second shot wasnt too good which also could have been another reason for the pain.

my glute shot yesterday was totally fine, just a little knot today, not even a big issue at all.

the quad shot still hurts though.

[Kratos]

Don't be afraid to take some anti-inflamitory med, ibuprofen works wonders for a sloppy injection.

[SMCengineer]

Damn Amorphic! I didn't know you started. I'm defnitely subscribed to this. You're gonna love it.

[dupa95]

I wiggle the neddle once that's all it took.

[Amorphic]

DAY 5

Did my other glute shot today with the 22g 1.5" pin. glute shots are great, no discomfort at all other than a minor knot a few hours after the injection.

still not feeling anything yet. Today was an off day from the gym. Back/bi's tomorrow.

[Amorphic]

DAY 6

Shot in my other delt today. 25g 1" pin.

Worked back/bi's today and pushed some decent weight.

Barbell curls at 110 pounds (7)(6)
100 pounds (7) (7)

Lat pulldowns 180 (8) (8)
170 (8) (6)

i dont usually record my lifts so i cant remember everything that i did today but my back/bi's routine consists of: bent over barbell rows, lat pulldowns, bent over dumbbell rows, deads, barbell curls, hammer curls, pulley curls.

No noticable increases in strength yet, i did sleep really nicely last night. I'm excpecting things to kick in aroundd day 14.

Thats all for now.

[dupa95]

Nice !!!!!!!

[SMCengineer]

i dont usually record my lifts so i cant remember everything that i did today

Amorphic, I would seriously suggest you start making a detailed log of your lifts. It doesn't have to be anything special, but you need to keep exact exercises, weights and reps that you've used. Progressive resistance is key and if you're not keeping track of weights how are you gonna be certain of the exact weight you used and the number of reps you did the week before. Once you start using a log it'll become your best friend and worst enemy. It'll push you to your absolute limit because you have to be certain that you beat the prior weeks lifts if only by 2.5lbs or 1 rep. I kinda think of it as a fight against my log book every time I enter the gym.

[Amorphic]

Amorphic, I would seriously suggest you start making a detailed log of your lifts. It doesn't have to be anything special, but you need to keep exact exercises, weights and reps that you've used. Progressive resistance is key and if you're not keeping track of weights how are you gonna be certain of the exact weight you used and the number of reps you did the week before. Once you start using a log it'll become your best friend and worst enemy. It'll push you to your absolute limit because you have to be certain that you beat the prior weeks lifts if only by 2.5lbs or 1 rep. I kinda think of it as a fight against my log book every time I enter the gym.

10-4.

starting a log asap. thanks buddy

[Andro9]

i found that prop hurts like a mother fkr but the more you do it the less the pain. even the second time around(in the same muscle, i wait 6-8 days before doing the same site) was not nearly as bad as 1st time injecting prop

[Amorphic]

i found that prop hurts like a mother fkr but the more you do it the less the pain. even the second time around(in the same muscle, i wait 6-8 days before doing the same site) was not nearly as bad as 1st time injecting prop

yeah ive noticed that already. the first shots into virgin muscle were unbelievably painful but the recent ones ive done lately havent been bad at all, just a charlie horse feeling for a couple days.

[audis4]

subscribed! nice work so far amorphic!

be sure to check out my log beginning next week

[Amorphic]

DAY 7

I was originally going to shoot my lower outer quad today. i loaded up the syringe per usual and jabbed it in. immediately my leg started twitching so i decided to pull out and move the placement. second jab in and i felt a pretty large amount of pain so i pulled out and changed the pin and decided to do a delt shot today.

i think i keep hitting the nerves in my quad, im not enjoying that area for injection.

delt shot went fine. 25g 1" to the right delt. today is an off day for the gym, chest and traps tomorrow.

[CheddaNips]

i dont like quad injections at all. most nerves and shit. I get a solid inject like 1-2x out of 5 tries

[Amorphic]

i'm thinking about doing calf injections. anyone have experience with them? less painful or more, more nerves or less?

and lastly, would a 25g 1" pin be good for calves?

if calves are not a good choice, what about chest? 5/8" pin or 1"?

[ChuckLee]

I'd opt for pecs, calves, lats (hard to do your own tho), bicep peak and lateral tris

[Amorphic]

I'd opt for pecs, calves, lats (hard to do your own tho), bicep peak and lateral tris

pin length for those shots?

[ChuckLee]

I use slin pins for pecs, bis and tris.
1inch needles for calves and lats

[Amorphic]

I use slin pins for pecs, bis and tris.
1inch needles for calves and lats

what do you think about 25g 1" for bi's and pecs? too long?

[ChuckLee]

maybe they are fine for pecs, but personally I wouldn't risk to hurt my bis with such lenght.
There are usually very low fat deposits on biceps, so a 0.5" pin should be enough imo

[Amorphic]

DAY 8

Chest injection today. 25g 1" pin. no discomfort at all. i'm glad i opted to try out the chest shots, they're a lot easier than quad shots and free of nerves.

did chest today, strength might be a little up. nothing drastic but i piled on more weight than i usually do. hopefully bigger results are on the way.

smith machine decline bench 225(10)(9) 245 (6) (6)
Incline dumbbell bench 70's (9)(9)(8)(6)
dumbbbell pullover 95 (10)(10) 100 (8)(6)
standing cables flyes 110s (8)(7)(7)
dumbbbell flyes 45s (8)(7)(7)

i'll start keeping a more detailed log of my lifts starting tomorrow.

thats all for now.