Middle Aged Fattie + Anavar= ?

[40plusnewbie]

Here is a picture of my cycle:

[40plusnewbie]

And here is a close up picture of my DSM doll and motivator for my cycle. I'm gonna drill a whole through his head and put him on a chain and keep him with me 24/7 until my cycle and PCT is complete. He's gonna be with me as a constant reminder to avoid all the garbage food and to run a solid program to the best of my ability over the next few months.

Say hi to DSM everyone lol

[DSM4Life]

And here is a close up picture of my DSM doll and motivator for my cycle. I'm gonna drill a whole through his head and put him on a chain and keep him with me 24/7 until my cycle and PCT is complete. He's gonna be with me as a constant reminder to avoid all the garbage food and to run a solid program to the best of my ability over the next few months.

Say hi to DSM everyone lol

At least your thinking about me.

[free_spirit]

lol that's great.

[bodybldr]

haha...that's awesome

[40plusnewbie]

Additional positive change made:

Bought a mini pocket notebook yesterday to log my exercise, food consumption, and notes about things to change/adjust, etc and will also be looking up the P/C/F content of the foods I consume regularly and begin to get a picture of the breakdown of my food consumptoin per meal and use this notebook to begin to get a clearer picture of my dialy macro intake P/C/F and breakdown per meal of same as well as calories of same.

This mornings cardio was very hard. My thighs were burning like mad only a few mintues into it. I had serious doubts that I would even be able to make 10minutes, but I had my baby DSM around my neck on a string to motivate me and put those thoughs out of my mind. I kept on peddling and thinking about getting up to what I did yesterday, 25minutes, was painful...but I kept on.

Then something magical happened as I was approaching 25 mintues....baby DSM talked me into going for an additional 5 minutes! so I hit 30minutes on the stationary bike this morning.

Tomorrow will be an off day of cardio and based on my schedule as it is now Saturday monrings will be an off day for cardio, at least for this month.

[40plusnewbie]

Just another quick update before I head off to work:

I just took a shower with DSM, I'm not sure what that says about me

He didn't even try to hog the water at all

But he shower with his clothes on lol

[spywizard]

I'm aware of the anavar lipid connection. I have been planning this cycle for 2 months, it will begin after I get the results from my bloodwork after seeing my dr next week.

My total cholesterol was 182 at last checking, forget the HDL, LDL, and ratio.

After the cycle I'm fairly certain my HDL will rise and my ratio will improve as well. I am taking a variety of supplements to support healthy cholesterol levels and ate a certain bean soup and took a few supplements for years to support healty cholesterol, things I learned like 10 years ago when my father had a stent put in his thigh.

My BP is something like 108 over 74

My goal for total cholesterol is like 150 or under.

mine went as high as 340, cholesterol that is.. but i have no other factors, but that's not a good thing.. age 47.. current bf.. 10%

and i did it without var.. and i love var..

If i could change your diet.. that would really be the big issue here, glancing through your current plan, i thought to myself.. why so much yogurt.. and no fish oils?? or flax/??

when i saw the pic, i knew then that was a problem, if i had to guess or predict, you hate your shoulders and hate your waist.. to fix that the food you consume, and the type of exercise you do will be the real key..

If you want it fast, there are ways to do that as well.

The var..
you will increase your strength = yes
you will increase your cholesterol into the danger area = yes
you will shrink your balls to the size of raisins = maybe but yes
you will lose some fat = maybe but maybe
you will lose some hair permanently = yes and probably
you will be constipated = yes
you will love it anyway = yes

What are your real goals?? if it is to increase strength I'd recommend a different type and routine for exercise

If you said i want to put the most size on the fastest, i'd recommend a different routine

the point being have a realistic expectation and you will reach your goal.. at 41 years you will not be going for your pro card, but at the same time you should have your eyes open..

[40plusnewbie]

mine went as high as 340, cholesterol that is.. but i have no other factors, but that's not a good thing.. age 47.. current bf.. 10%

and i did it without var.. and i love var..

If i could change your diet.. that would really be the big issue here, glancing through your current plan, i thought to myself.. why so much yogurt.. and no fish oils?? or flax/??

when i saw the pic, i knew then that was a problem, if i had to guess or predict, you hate your shoulders and hate your waist.. to fix that the food you consume, and the type of exercise you do will be the real key..

If you want it fast, there are ways to do that as well.

The var..
you will increase your strength = yes
you will increase your cholesterol into the danger area = yes
you will shrink your balls to the size of raisins = maybe but yes
you will lose some fat = maybe but maybe
you will lose some hair permanently = yes and probably
you will be constipated = yes
you will love it anyway = yes

What are your real goals?? if it is to increase strength I'd recommend a different type and routine for exercise

If you said i want to put the most size on the fastest, i'd recommend a different routine

the point being have a realistic expectation and you will reach your goal.. at 41 years you will not be going for your pro card, but at the same time you should have your eyes open..

Thanks for your input bro.

As for the yogurt, it was an easy way to get carbs. My wife buys those boxes of fat free yogurt that comes in tubes like a freeze pop, only it's yogurt. They are easy to eat and take on the run, etc. But I've already changed that up. The yogurt is mostly out now and carbs are coming from Ezekiel bread, fiber one cereal (plain, no milk) and I will be adding black beans and pinto beans into the mix.

And I resumed taking fish oil a few days ago. I put a tbsp into a water bottle with a scoop of green drink and a tbsp of metamucil along with 1/4 tbsp of glutamine and a tbsp of creatine and sip it over a few hrs along with my usual several bottles of H20/day.

My goal for the cycle is to drop some weight and recomp my body some. I realize I could do this without the var, using sound diet, cardio, and lifting alone but I think the var will improve my results over the same time period than I would get without the var.

And your right, I hate my shoulders. As far as muscularity goes they are friggin weak as hell (I know I have a lame non muscular body anyway) and that is especially true because I have very broad shoulders and know if I am able to develop them they will be pretty friggin big based on my body size and frame.

And of couse I hate my mid section. That is a main focus. I'm doing stomach vacuum exercises 3x/week and am going to hit my abs hard with weights twice a week. I've very excited about doing that on var. I think the first time I work my abs with a dumbbell on my chest/behind my head with var running through my veins I might cum

I have not started the cycle yet and am down 4lbs since Monday with noticible change in the mirror. I'd like to drop 20 by the end of the cycle and do the best I can to get my abs/midsection as far along as I can regarding drop in waist size/fat as well as muscle development.

[DSM4Life]

Keep an eye on the sugar with yogurt.

[spywizard]

Thanks for your input bro.

As for the yogurt, it was an easy way to get carbs. My wife buys those boxes of fat free yogurt that comes in tubes like a freeze pop, only it's yogurt. They are easy to eat and take on the run, etc. But I've already changed that up. The yogurt is mostly out now and carbs are coming from Ezekiel bread, fiber one cereal (plain, no milk) and I will be adding black beans and pinto beans into the mix.

And I resumed taking fish oil a few days ago. I put a tbsp into a water bottle with a scoop of green drink and a tbsp of metamucil along with 1/4 tbsp of glutamine and a tbsp of creatine and sip it over a few hrs along with my usual several bottles of H20/day.

My goal for the cycle is to drop some weight and recomp my body some. I realize I could do this without the var, using sound diet, cardio, and lifting alone but I think the var will improve my results over the same time period than I would get without the var.

And your right, I hate my shoulders. As far as muscularity goes they are friggin weak as hell (I know I have a lame non muscular body anyway) and that is especially true because I have very broad shoulders and know if I am able to develop them they will be pretty friggin big based on my body size and frame.

And of couse I hate my mid section. That is a main focus. I'm doing stomach vacuum exercises 3x/week and am going to hit my abs hard with weights twice a week. I've very excited about doing that on var. I think the first time I work my abs with a dumbbell on my chest/behind my head with var running through my veins I might cum

I have not started the cycle yet and am down 4lbs since Monday with noticible change in the mirror. I'd like to drop 20 by the end of the cycle and do the best I can to get my abs/midsection as far along as I can regarding drop in waist size/fat as well as muscle development.

you didn't catch my point regarding fats.. low fat yogurt is of no value in body building, nor in fat loss..

don't eat it..

and if you take a protein shake, don't mix it with low fat/no fat milk either..

don't eat corn, carrots, or anything that is not low glycogen..

and as for fruits, well, i don't take them when i am strict on my cutting which i don't do often other than to shock the body into change..

fructose is a killer to your stated goals..

hope that clarifies..

one must consume fats (flax and olive, and fish oils) in order to lose fat

[DSM4Life]

you didn't catch my point regarding fats.. low fat yogurt is of no value in body building, nor in fat loss..

don't eat it..

and if you take a protein shake, don't mix it with low fat/no fat milk either..

don't eat corn, carrots, or anything that is not low glycogen..

and as for fruits, well, i don't take them when i am strict on my cutting which i don't do often other than to shock the body into change..

fructose is a killer to your stated goals..

hope that clarifies..

one must consume fats (flax and olive, and fish oils) in order to lose fat

Been on a diet based on high fat diet with carb cycling for about 2-3 weeks. I have already gained about 2 lbs and BF has gone down. Wouldn't have believed it until i tried it.

[40plusnewbie]

Keep an eye on the sugar with yogurt.

Thanks for the tip bro.

[40plusnewbie]

you didn't catch my point regarding fats.. low fat yogurt is of no value in body building, nor in fat loss

don't eat it..

OK, thanks. It's out.

and if you take a protein shake, don't mix it with low fat/no fat milk either..

Thanks, I only take my shakes with spring water.

don't eat corn, carrots, or anything that is not low glycogen..

I definitely don't know which veggies are low glycogen vs. high glycogen, I'm writing this in my notebook to look 'em up. Thanks. Once I have a list I'll get my wife to pick up the right stuff veggie wise. I ate a beef stew today she made and it had carrots in it. I need to figure this out, thanks for putting me on track here.

I def don't eat enough veggies in general, It's been a weak point for decades basically.

and as for fruits, well, i don't take them when i am strict on my cutting which i don't do often other than to shock the body into change..

fructose is a killer to your stated goals..

hope that clarifies..

Thanks. I'll look at the sugar content of the carbs I consume and try to knock them down.

My fruit routine is:
~ 1/2 cup of either blueberries or strawberries with oats in the am, no milk. My understanding is that at least in the case of blueberries they are one of the best foods as far as natural anti-oxidants go.

Would you recommend I cut the strawberries and just go with blueberreis, maybe go with blueberries 50% of the time and the other 50% up the oats and have no blueberreis, or cut out both and just up the oats?

What is your take on consuming high fructose food immediately PWO before taking a protein shake in order to spike insulin levels to help shuttle protein/nutrients into the muscles? Is this contravertial? Is there value in it?

My past routine was to eat 2 banana's or 1 banana and a handful of red seedless grapes while I was wrapping up my workout during the last couple sets and then take my shake when finnished.

one must consume fats (flax and olive, and fish oils) in order to lose fat

Thanks, this I learned a few months ago. I eat natty pb, take fish oil, and extra virgin olive oil. Never tried flax. Should I get it? Do you go with the oil strictly or flax seeds or something too?

I still need to figure out how much fat cal's I am taking per day, and how much I should be taking, as well as with which meals. My diet obviously isn't dialed in but I'm working on it. Thanks for the help.

[DSM4Life]

[40plusnewbie]

Thanks DSM. I have Yams, Lentils, and a few of the low glycemic beans on my shopping list.

Good day today. Today (midnight on) is when I'm around a lot of bad food I have tranditionally found ito too difficult to resist. Today I didn't eat any of it and I even went to my sis in laws b day party where they were trying to push a 'small piece' of cake on my plus other food. I just told them all I am on a very strict dieting protocol now and wasn't tempted at all which was surprising.

I didn't even touch any of the food for the party, something I had almost always done maybe in small ammounts as like a cheat day or something. Well I don't want to cheat myself. I've been cheating myself for 20 years with garbage food. Time to get serios and change my life and health and body comp.

I think I have a pretty good genetic disposition to muscle development. When I was in my late tees/early 20's chicks used to pinch and grab my ass all the tiem at clubs and would sometimes holler at me out of thier car about my ass or legs if I was walking down the street. I probably could have been an ass model and I didn't even do anything but walk (sometimes fast paced serious distances, but no weights at all).

I really appreciate your helping me out with the food issue and stuff even though your against me running the cycle.

BTW it's gonna be like ~39mg/day because when I mixed for 200 caps using whities capping method I came out with extra pills. I used a 50 pill cap-m-quick, and in retrospect think I should have tamped them. I think a cylinder can be tapped on the table to get a more dense volume in that than lots of little pills can on a table top. From now on I will use my tamper.

But it's all good. Since I'm fat and do have risk factors for heart attack the lower dose might be better. From what I have read it will have an effect. I want to run mild cutting cycle anyway and can up the dose next time if I like it but the thought of cholesterol over 300lbs when I have a history of sedentary lifestyle, stress, and heredity, plus I smoked for 7 years all as risk factors I really don't want to play around. I want to make sure I'm safe. I see my doc tuesday.

I'm also gonna develop a very intense cholesterol lowering protocol with support supplements before I begin.

Do you or anyone think it's advisable to take a prescribed med for high cholesterol for a few months?

I will not be discussing any of this with my physician.

[spywizard]

I take vytorin.. lowered mine to the mid 170's..

so.. yes...

[40plusnewbie]

I take vytorin.. lowered mine to the mid 170's..

so.. yes...

Thanks, just looked it up. Says it may interact wtih niacin. I take a time relased niacin and am upping the dose to 2g/day.

I'm not going through my dr for the med. I know little about them. Think one class is better than the other? I don't need the diet blocking stuff. I have taken lipitor in the past. I am a mod at a private site that discusses pharmacies, etc so have access to a lot of source and source checks for many many meds.

Think I should go for lipitor, or something else? I want to keep taking the time relased niacin to assit in keeping cholesterol in check so don't want to risk ordring a 3 mo supply of somethign that's gonna interact negatively.

Any specific suggestions? Particularly something quick acting...

[40plusnewbie]

Well I made it through my first weekend which is the time I am around the abundance of free garbage food and up until this week have been unable to resist despite bringing food like fat free cottage cheese and hard boiled egg whites with me.

This week I did not touch any of that crap. Yesterday I consumed chicken patties (made from ground chicken) on toasted ezekiel bread and almonds for meals instead.

I also hit 40 min on level 4 resistance on the stationary bike yesterday without hardly any pain/difficulty. I will begin to add bursts of high intensity into the mix during those 40 minutes.

Current weight 241.5, -8.5 from 7 days ago (funny but last night I weighed 248 and the day before 246.5 both up from 244 on Friday despite improved eating and increased cardio)

[RikuY]

I am following this thread, thanks for posting 40plus...

Keep up the good work!

[40plusnewbie]

Did 40 minutes on the stationary bike again yesterday and added in two bursts of fast cycling for a count of 60.

This morning I did my 40min and did eight bursts of fast cycling to a count of 60. The 40min breezed by today, no real pain at all, felt comfortable and beginning to feel natural. Plus like 1/2 hr later I was feeling sooo great, I think I was high, like a 'runners high' off the cycling.

Got my T3 and decided to get some lipitor before I start the anavar , which is gonna take me like a month to get so I should easily drop a lot of weight by the time I wrap things up.

Started the T3 today (I know it's said to be catabolic and should be used with an anabolic but I'm only gonna use it at a very low dose without the anavar, like 25mcg/day in divided doses so think I'll be OK and won't loose the little muscle I have lol)

My BP was 110/70 and the nurse said "that's better than mine, I'll trade mine for that any day!" Not bad for a fattie...

[40plusnewbie]

I'm going to post up my diet over the past over the past 5 days for comments. (I am presently sick and my food intake has declined over the past 2 days as a result so the reduction in the # of meals is related to that and will change when I am over the illness in a cpl days, my diet will most closely resemble that of 9/14 on average with improvements implemented based on input here and as I learn more in general)

9/14

7:00 am
1 cup black coffee with 4 packets of sweet 'n low
4 egg whites
~ 1/4 cup of oats
~ 1/2 cup of blueberries

8:15 am
Power Bar (300 cals, 39g carbs, 19g sugar, 23 g protein 6g total fat, 3.5g saturated)- I should have ate more at 7:00am and realized my mistake upon leaving the house so took this power bar with me, not a normal part of my diet

12:20pm
1/5th tub of fat free cottage cheese (the full tub has 480 cals, 84g protein, 36g carbs, 5g sugar)

1:00pm
2 cups of cooked beef stew

4:10pm
4 slices of ezekiel bread (320 cals, 16g protein, 60g carbs, 12g fiber, 0g sugar)
1/2 of a large skinless chicken breast

7:45pm
2 tbsp fish oul

9/13

9:00am
1 cup oats
~1/8 cup blueberries

(sleep)

3:15pm
1 slice ezekiel bread
3tbsp natty pb

5:30pm
1/4 tub fat free cottage cheese
1 slice ezekiel bread
2 tbsp natty pb

7:50pm
1 chicken patty (from ground chicken on a foreman grill)
2 tbsp fish oil + other powder supp's mixed in H20

9/14

8:10am
1 cup black coffee with 4 sweet 'n low
2 tbsp fish oil + other powder supp's mixed in H20

11:00am
1 large chicken patty (from ground chicken)
2 slices ezekiel bread

1:00pm
1 large chicken patty
2 slices ezekiel bread

2:00pm
20 almonds

3:30pm
2 small/med chicken patties
2 slices ezekiel bread

7:40pm
1/4 tub fat free cottage cheese
21 almonds

8/15

10:00am
4 egg whites
2 slices ezekiel bread
2 tbsp fish oil + other powder supp's mixed in H20


11:15am
16 almonds

5:00pm
4 slices ezekiel bread
3 tbsp natty pb
~ 1/3 chicken breast

8pm
2 slices ezekiel bread
~ 1/3 chicken breast
20 almonds

8/16

6:30am
1/4 cup oats
1/6 tub fat free cottage cheese
15 almonds

11:30am
2 cups cooked beef stew

1:15pm
20 almonds

4pm
1/5 tub fat free cottage cheese
16 almonds

7:30pm
7 egg whites
3 tbsp natty pb

9:45pm
3/4 scoop casein protein/water

current weight: 239lbs -11 lbs since 9/8

all comments welcome and appreciated!

[spywizard]

Thanks, just looked it up. Says it may interact wtih niacin. I take a time relased niacin and am upping the dose to 2g/day.

I'm not going through my dr for the med. I know little about them. Think one class is better than the other? I don't need the diet blocking stuff. I have taken lipitor in the past. I am a mod at a private site that discusses pharmacies, etc so have access to a lot of source and source checks for many many meds.

Think I should go for lipitor, or something else? I want to keep taking the time relased niacin to assit in keeping cholesterol in check so don't want to risk ordring a 3 mo supply of somethign that's gonna interact negatively.

Any specific suggestions? Particularly something quick acting...

lipitor did nothing for me.. i know it helps lots of people, and docs love getting those vacations to hawaii from pharmacy companies, but i don't use lipitor..

best i can do for ya..

[40plusnewbie]

lipitor did nothing for me.. i know it helps lots of people, and docs love getting those vacations to hawaii from pharmacy companies, but i don't use lipitor..

best i can do for ya..

Thanks, a pharmacist might get some money to use towards a vacation from my purchase, but not any dr's

Maybe my pharmacist will come to vist me in the usa lol

[40plusnewbie]

Lookin for a little help with LBM calculation/estimate as a jumping off point to calculate my maintanence cals, etc.

I estimate my LBM at 180lbs. I'm 6'2" with very broad shoulders (probably more broad than 95% of people my height and also have a size 10 1/2 EEEEEE shoe size and probably more bone density that most as well). I'm thinking that my LBM is 10lbs or possibly more than the average guy who is 6'2" tall.

I posted pics in the beginning of the thread. I know I don't have muscle mass to speak of, but would like to know what the average LMB of a 6'2" male without additional muscle mass through weight lifting/sports is so I can estimate mine.

Thanks for any assistance anyone can offer.

[40plusnewbie]

Heard that all my bloodwork came back looking good. Didn't get the details but am getting a copy mailed to me.

I put in an order for some lipitor, depending on what my lipid profile looks like I might start the var cycle before getting the lipitor (my pharmacist isn't exactly local lol) or I might wait.

I increased my cardio resistance on the stationary bike from a 4 to a 5 today. Didn't do any high intensity spurts though. Think I will take 2-3 days to get used to the level 5 for 40 minutes before doing fast sputs intermittently.

I also have to mix up some of my antioxidant and liver support supps to make dosing easier. I like to use bulk powders whenever possible.

[40plusnewbie]

Just made my evening coctail:

Idebenone, GABA, Fish Oil, Spirulina, Milk Thistle, H2O (yummy lol).

Used it to wash down some time-relased nician and a couple MVI.

The taste I have in my throat right now is, um, interesting. lol

[audis4]

damn bro, your not messing around

any update pics?

where are your calories at right now?

[40plusnewbie]

damn bro, your not messing around

any update pics?

where are your calories at right now?

I still haven't figured out my macro's or total cal's or have a consistent diet as far as those things go.

It should also be noted that I have not lifted weights in 3 months. Unfortunately after hitting a low of 238 very quickly I upped my weight by binging on brilla pasta (protein enriched) mixed with chicken b/c my wife cooked like a an lb or 2 of it. It's one of my devils foods. I asked her from now on to only cook 1-2 servings at a time. I also chowed down on some protein bars on that day and one other day so as of tonight my weight increased to 244lbs.

Needless to say I am quite displeased.

As a result of that I have decided to add clen into my mix along with another lypo burning agent. I am anxiously waiting my written results of my bloodwork to see if I feel comfortable starting with the var before getting my lipitor from my overseas pharmacist b/c I want to up the dose but don't want to burn muscle. It seemed to me my bicepts were a little softer/weaker yesterday and that worries me so I want to get var into the mix to stop any muscle burning that may be happening.

On a positive note I made it through another weekend when I am surrounded by free garbage food and ate skinless chicken sandwhiches on ezekiel bread and natty pb.

It was a minor setback and I plan to redouble my efforts to get back on track. I plan to begin weight training tomorrow or tuesday to burn extra cals and prime my muscles as they haven't been worked.

I've got tons of energy from all the supps I'm taking but still need to take it slow with the weights until I get back into the swing of things. Looking at my enlarged stomach with the extra 6lbs I recently regained is making me sick (2 parties I went to as well with lots of social pressure to eat to be polite to the hosts over the past 4 days as well).

Even if my lipid profile isn't great I might start 13mg of var 2x/day just so I can up the T3. The clen should get to me within a week as well as the other product I ordered.

I know it's all diet but i have my wife working against me now b/c she's stopped going to the gym and knows my triggers and I think at least unconsciously she doesn't want me to get ripped due to jealousy of other chicks being into my bod if I accomplish what I intend to.

So a short term (less than a week) setback.

I want to save posting pics until I'm all wrapped up with the cycle plus pct for maximum effect. Again, my main focus is my mid section, I don't expect to gain much muscle in my upper body, etc.. but am looking to get trim as possible as a good jumping off point to build from. This will improve my health a lot, my self esteem, and I can lean bulk from there.

What do you guys do when your at a party and ppl are pushing food at you? My wife is Braziiian and the culture is such that people get insulted if you don't eat their food. Ultimately I have no one to blame but myself though.

I think I can drop 25 from my start weight and start to show some abs... but I gotta start working them with weights. This afternoon (unless i am dead, I need to getup for work in 2 hrs and have not slept yet fretting about my setback and trying to sort out a plan to move on from here so that might have to wait until tomorrow.

But I don't want to risk my health and I"m not going to see my lipitor for another month. bla, the downside of having an intl pharmacist.

I think i just need to be more vocal and firm about what I am doing, thank people for their food offers at parties (lots of brazilian family oriented parties) because my health comes first. I can't help it if they get a little insulted.

goodnight, hope the 2 hrs or less gets me through the day tomorrow lol.

And I need to pick up those wieghts, espeically for my abs.

[DSM4Life]

What do you guys do when your at a party and ppl are pushing food at you? My wife is Braziiian and the culture is such that people get insulted if you don't eat their food. .

I don't care if they get insulted or not, i turn it down (if my diet doesn't allow for it at the time).

[40plusnewbie]

Other details about my recent food indiscretions:

I was also home from work for 2 days with a bacterial infection and was very drained. The combo of having pasta in the fridge cooked and me being home all day and all night was too much for me. Once I started on the pasta I went for the protein bars...bad,bad,bad. When this box is gone I am not going to buy anymore. I think it's best for me to go without a meal than to have protein bars laying around 'incase I need a meal while on the run'.

This day started off well. Dispite only getting 2 hrs sleep I jumped right up on the staionary bike and did my 40 minutes, again at level 5 but today added eight 30 second bursts of v. fast peddling.

When I told my wife I intended to maybe pick up the weights again starting today she reminded me that it's a good day for sexy time based on her ovulation. Given that, plus that it is one of my stomach vacuum days I think I'm going to wait until tomorrow to pick up the weights.

My workout schedule will be something like this:

Stationary bike M,T,W,Th,F,Sun am's 40 minutes increasing resistance levels along the way as my legs become more conditioned.

Stomach vacuum 20 minutes M,W afternoon or more lkely evening and Sat early AM.

That leaves Tu, Th, Fri for weights (Sunday no chance due to scheudle, might be able to work in some Saturdays but not in the near term due to schedling).

Can't wait for my bloodwork results to arrive in the mail.

[40plusnewbie]

I don't care if they get insulted or not, i turn it down (if my diet doesn't allow for it at the time).

Thanks for the support bro. I know it's the right thing for me. I did turn down desert but ate some stuff with mayo in it on both days and one day ate white rice. Both days I had larger servings of food than I ever make for myself. I did turn down the desert at least.

My wife is really kind of sabotaging my food plan a bit now, cooking 1-2 lbs of pasta (I told her to cook some pasta but with lots of chicken and garlick, and a little extra virgin olive oil, not too much pasta) is like waving a pizza under my nose.

Pasta is one of the 2-3 foods that put me at 295lbs where I was last summer. 7pm large serving of pasta for dinner and then another large serving at 11pm for example (smothered in tomato sauce from a jar) was something I ate like 4x/week.

So I hit a road bump and ultimately need to take 100% responsiblity for it myself. No one held a gun to my head. When I saw those 2 big tupperware bins filled with pasta and shredded chicken I should have picked out the chicken and threw 90% of the pasta in the trash!

[DSM4Life]

Thanks for the support bro. I know it's the right thing for me. I did turn down desert but ate some stuff with mayo in it on both days and one day ate white rice. Both days I had larger servings of food than I ever make for myself. I did turn down the desert at least.

My wife is really kind of sabotaging my food plan a bit now, cooking 1-2 lbs of pasta (I told her to cook some pasta but with lots of chicken and garlick, and a little extra virgin olive oil, not too much pasta) is like waving a pizza under my nose.

Pasta is one of the 2-3 foods that put me at 295lbs where I was last summer. 7pm large serving of pasta for dinner and then another large serving at 11pm for example (smothered in tomato sauce from a jar).

So I hit a road bump and ultimately need to take 100% responsiblity for it myself. No one held a gun to my head. When I saw those 2 big tupperware bins filled with pasta and shredded chicken I should have picked out the chicken and threw 90% of the pasta in the trash!

Not to come down on you but your the only one to blame. Not your wife, friends or family. Do they physically put this food in your mouth and make you chew it ? Nope.

Your the only one holding yourself back.

Now break out your little DSM love doll and get your @$$ back in the game !

[40plusnewbie]

Not to come down on you but your the only one to blame. Not your wife, friends or family. Do they physically put this food in your mouth and make you chew it ? Nope.

Your the only one holding yourself back.

Now break out your little DSM love doll and get your @$$ back in the game !

I'm back in the game bro! Thanks again for the support and I agree with you 100%. Maybe I cursed myself when I took my DSM doll off my neck (he's on a string necklace) and left him in my car when I went into my dr's office last Tuesday. I was concerned he might think I was wierd so just didn't want to deal with the issue of anwering any questions about it.

When I was putting the hole in it's head and putting it on a string necklace my wife told me "your scaring me a little bit, that's not normal" She told me that a few times lol

[DSM4Life]

Can you do me a favor and get him some pants ? The winter is quickly approaching.

[40plusnewbie]

Can you do me a favor and get him some pants ? The winter is quickly approaching.

I'll see what I can do bro. BTW his little leotard or whatever he had on is ripped so it's just hangin off his neck so his junk is completly exposed now.

I also tried my first yam today. For some reason I had in my mind that I didn't like them but I don't even remember ever trying them. Well, I LOVED IT! Yams are going to be a regular part of my diet now.

[40plusnewbie]

Did my 40min of the stationary bike again this am. Still level 5 resistance but today added two 30 second bursts at fast speed peddling for a total of 12 over the 40 minutes.

Also dropped some of the weight that I stupidly put on in the past week eating like a glutton during 2 days so I'm at 239.5lbs this am.

Anxiously awaiting my clen and also my lab results.

[40plusnewbie]

Weight today: 237.5 -12.5 lbs. since the start of this thread

Still looking for a way to fairly accurately guestimate my LBM (don't want to buy calipers or do any BF tests, I'm too fat for that, I'll worry about that if and when I ever get down to like 12% or less).

But I'd like to know what my LBM is for my body. I know there are 'average recommended weights' for males and females of different heights, and I think they adjust for age-that part doesn't interest me really. But based on my genetics and body dimentions/type I definitely carry a greater LBM than the vast majority of other males who stand at 6'2" (assuming no hypertrophy, athletic muscularity).

I want to know this because I want to begin to build specifics into my diet plan based on what my LBM is, ignoring my BF content.

Should I just google this?

My eating is good, far from perfect, but the foods I'm taking in are good and have been improving. Yesterday afternoon after eating some salmon (on a foreman style grill, I was disappointed as I watched the natural fish oil drip out of the grill...any suggestions on how to prepare fish to keep more of the natural oils in the fish?) and most of a small yam I was proud of myself for being able to recognize I was full and putting down the plate with a little salmon and yam still left. I was never one for not cleaning his plate, regardless of what my macro/caloric needs actually were...not to mention I have not been one to refuse/avoid seconds in many years until this year, regardless of the degree of unhealthiness of the food in question.

It was interesting that I also got cravings for a protein bar shortly after this. I was pleased with myself for resisting this as I was full and didn't need the calories. I won't be buying another box of protein bars, too much risk to me in my particular case. I did eat a dozen almonds about 1/2 hr. later thinking my body might be needing some fat.

Also disappointed that my clen delivery will be delayed a little (I plan to use a light dose as my current regimin is working fine, plus I have an anxious disposition and don't need to exaserbate that).

Still taking cytomel .25mcg spread over 3 doses daily and will probably stop this in a week or 2 because I don't want to take too many risks with my bodies internal systems, even though I'm taking a low dose.

I'm very anxious to get my lab results, hope they get here soon.

Still getting adjusted to the higher level of physical activity (40min cardio in the am). I was wiped early last night, fell asleep in the early evening. Legs were sore/aching so I'm taking a day off today.

Wifey is also pissed at me b/c she wants a baby bad and it's currently prime time based on her cycle to make sexy time but I shrugged her off yesterday as I was soo wiped.

Maybe it's for the best if my lab work doesn't get to me for a while, I'm simply unconditioned due to my age and past sedentary lifestyle.

spywizzard kind of put a heart attack scare into me (even though i knew the anavar -lipid connection) because of the risk factors I have. I have a cholesterol medication en-route to me but it's going to take like a month or more in all likelyhood to reach me. I'd rather be safe than sorry. I'm still excited to start my cycle but my judgement overseeing my safety outweighs that. I figured since my lipid profile was OK I wouldn't really be much at risk but thanks to spy he got me thinking about risk factors for heart attack and I do have at least a few (family history with males, 7 years total of smoking cigs in my life-no more, obesity, sedentary lifestyle, poor nutritonal history, stress). Althogh some of those have changed dramatically, and continue to change.....the history is there. I'll feel safer on a lipid lowering drug while on anavar.
Thanks spy.

[40plusnewbie]

Oh yeah, I was also psyched looking at myself in the mirror yesterday while doing the stomach vacuum! Given the BF% I still have the degree to which I can suck in my abs in a noticible way is pretty cool! I've very pleased I learned of that exercise because it's not talked about much on BB forums from what I can tell, possibly b/c it doesn't promote muscular hypertrophy, but it is very consistent with my personal goals of getting a tight and muscular midsection- which is the primarly goal of my pending cycle as well as a primary goal more generally about my body recomp in the near term. It has been a dream/fantasy of mine off and on for 20 years to have a ripped mid section, I simply did not understand the process/steps to take to make that happen until very recently. Thanks to this site and the support of bros here I believe that I will be able to achieve something I have desired for a couple of decades, something I just didn't know how to make happen...even when I was young and fairly lean b/c I didn't understand the fundamental connection between diet/rest/weighlifting.

The stomach vacuum exercise is the bomb btw!

For anyone who doesn't know, that exercise works the abdominal muscle involved in breathing so in addition to the advantages of having a very tight mid section you also get the benefit of having a greater breathing capacity, which should enable you to be able to pull in more O2 which I think can aid in weight lifting. I also read something about the connection between that muscle being strong and it's benefits to power lifters who need to do some explosive lifts where breating is an important part of the process.

[40plusnewbie]

This post will begin with some inane info from today and then I will post my current supplement protocol.

So this am I wake up and weigh myself 236lbs. I'm psyched, especially because I binged on my last 4 protein bars at midnight last night (along with Alli, see below). Then I take a big long thick dump and weigh myself again right after and I weigh 237 lbs. lol

Here is my current supplement protocol:

Vitamin C 2grams-10grams (higher end when sick or sensing I'm getting sick) per day
Idebenone- 1/4 tsp 2x/day
GABA- 4grams at night (up from 1 gram, might change this again)
T3-25mcg/day split into 3 doses daily- will discontinue in 1-2 weeks max, been on about 2 weeks- and friggin spilled 2/3 of the bottle on my bathroom floor today ARRRRGGGG!!!!
Clen - started today ~ 60mcg spit into 3 daily doses
Fish Oil- 2 tbsp/day
Slo-acin (time released niacin) ~ 1gram twice daily
milk thistle- 1/4 tsp 2x/day
Green Drink ~ 1/2 scoop/day
Spirulina ~ 1/3- 1/2 tsp 2x/day
Chelation 2tabs 1-2x/week (likely to d/c when bottle is done)
Creatine Mono ~2 tsp/day
gultamine ~ 1/4 tsp 2x/day (considering upping this a little)

Alli- 2 tabs ~ 1x/week when a cheat meal is consumed (Alli is the OTC- over the counter- version of Orlistat- a prescripton medication, it's just at 1/2 the dose, I take 2 tabs, the prescription dose of orlistat.

From wikipedia: Orlistat is a drug designed to treat obesity. Its primary function is preventing the absorption of fats from the human diet, thereby reducing caloric intake. It is intended for use in conjunction with a physician-supervised reduced-calorie diet. Orlistat works by inhibiting pancreatic lipase, an enzyme that breaks down triglycerides in the intestine. Without this enzyme, triglycerides from the diet are prevented from being hydrolyzed into absorbable free fatty acids and are excreted undigested. Only trace amounts of orlistat are absorbed systemically; the primary effect is local lipase inhibition within the GI tract after an oral dose. The primary route of elimination is through the feces.

At the standard prescription dose of 120 mg three times daily before meals, orlistat prevents approximately 30% of dietary fat from being absorbed,and about 25% at the standard over-the-counter dose of 60 mg. Higher doses do not produce more potent effects. (so this stuff seems like a sweet product to have on hand an take with cheat meals).

Tongkat Ali 50x extract ~ 800mg daily for the couple days leading up to my wifes fertility period and the week of.

1 1/2-2 gallons H20/day