My 18 months cycle log.

**smokethedays** · 11-26-2008, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by liftohio

Good progress, good thread, well done!

Thanks bro. Stay tuned

**smokethedays** · 12-01-2008, 03:15 PM

Lost more weight, can't train heavy, injured every where, lower back, left pec/bicep, right delt, and arthiritis in knees.

224 lbs. 10%BF.

Adding Deca at 200 mg/week only!! and IGF to help recover injuries quicker at 50 mcg ED.

**Gym Freak** · 12-10-2008, 08:33 PM

Keep at it bro. I've been following your progress but haven't posted in the thread. I'm currently on cycle and at close to the same weight. My height is the same and BF is about 9%. I'm not as strong as you though. I'm working on it. Anyway enough about me. Keep it real and hang in there. It's a marathon and not a sprint. Good work thus far man. Heal up so you can get to it again.

**smokethedays** · 12-10-2008, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Gym Freak

Keep at it bro. I've been following your progress but haven't posted in the thread. I'm currently on cycle and at close to the same weight. My height is the same and BF is about 9%. I'm not as strong as you though. I'm working on it. Anyway enough about me. Keep it real and hang in there. It's a marathon and not a sprint. Good work thus far man. Heal up so you can get to it again.

Gettin' better slowly though.
My back is shot, might be due for a disc surgery in L5

Rotator cuff still injured but a little better.

**Amorphic** · 12-10-2008, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

Lost more weight, can't train heavy, injured every where, lower back, left pec/bicep, right delt, and arthiritis in knees.

224 lbs. 10%BF.

Adding Deca at 200 mg/week only!! and IGF to help recover injuries quicker at 50 mcg ED.

when did all these injuries occur? progressively over time or did you do something recently?

**smokethedays** · 12-10-2008, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Amorphic

when did all these injuries occur? progressively over time or did you do something recently?

The bicep/Chest during workout, so is the rotator cuff. But my back has been injured for over 1 year now, after I got rear ended by two trucks. Got my L5 herniated and 1/4" (5 mm) out of place.
So recentley with pushing hard, it keeps aggrevating my sciatica which can be fairly painful. Any where from 3-5 days in bed, beside constant numb sensation in my leg.

My knees issue goes back 12 years ago and its due to 1 year of paralyzation in my right leg.

**markhyena** · 12-14-2008, 10:45 PM

Wow this has been the most interesting thread since ive been here !!!

Keep us updated !!

**UncleD** · 12-23-2008, 01:24 PM

so whats going an smoke? how is everything? havent heard much from ya

**Mr Busta sweat** · 12-24-2008, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by markhyena

Wow this has been the most interesting thread since ive been here !!!

Keep us updated !!

Yeah Iam in agreement there.

**smokethedays** · 12-25-2008, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by UncleD

so whats going an smoke? how is everything? havent heard much from ya

Originally Posted by Mr Busta sweat

Yeah Iam in agreement there.

Sorry guys, had a few injuries in a row. Recovered a bit but still have shoulder issues. Can't press for shit

But im back to my 2 trainings/day trying to add some lean mass while losing some BF.
Not sure if I mentioned that or not but I raised the Test E to 600 mg/week.
I will update the numbers and the pix by the mid of Januray. Stay tuned my friends.

**UncleD** · 12-28-2008, 10:15 AM

smoke just so ya know ive been talkin to a guy fixin to go pro and he said being a beast and staying a beast means never cycleing off...and it seems to be what other top level guys are saying..it makes so much sence... you cant be 280lbs at 3% contest time and 300+ 6-8%bf off season unless you juice non stop year round massive dosages..alot of bros say you cant cycle nonstop.. well how are these pros stil alive??? what health issuse do they have? everyone preaches pct and takin breaks.. well comon sence says to be a pro or top level you cant take breaks and you cant let your gains dwindle..what im saying if your takin the next step into BB as a carrer or you want to be a beast for any reason i guess thats how you do it...the guys i talk to who cycle off and on are big but not monsters...and when there off they shrivle up alot.. but i also know it means being on HRT for life... if your willing to take the risk.. and your at a certian point
WHY THE **** NOT??? i think your on to somthing smoke.. and so am i...

**UncleD** · 12-28-2008, 10:18 AM

and the fact i have good supply, and have 3 years of test on hand im getting tempted..but if i do what i have planed i will get bloodwork once a month and take all nessesary suport drugs and supplyments...

**smokethedays** · 12-29-2008, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by UncleD

smoke just so ya know ive been talkin to a guy fixin to go pro and he said being a beast and staying a beast means never cycleing off...and it seems to be what other top level guys are saying..it makes so much sence... you cant be 280lbs at 3% contest time and 300+ 6-8%bf off season unless you juice non stop year round massive dosages..alot of bros say you cant cycle nonstop.. well how are these pros stil alive??? what health issuse do they have? everyone preaches pct and takin breaks.. well comon sence says to be a pro or top level you cant take breaks and you cant let your gains dwindle..what im saying if your takin the next step into BB as a carrer or you want to be a beast for any reason i guess thats how you do it...the guys i talk to who cycle off and on are big but not monsters...and when there off they shrivle up alot.. but i also know it means being on HRT for life... if your willing to take the risk.. and your at a certian point
WHY THE **** NOT??? i think your on to somthing smoke.. and so am i...

Thats what I keep saying but ppl here got dif. opinions that I respect but still think that they are wrong, and they are!!

I will always favor light long cycles. simply because I want real mass not fluids bloat.

**smokethedays** · 12-29-2008, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by UncleD

and the fact i have good supply, and have 3 years of test on hand im getting tempted..but if i do what i have planed i will get bloodwork once a month and take all nessesary suport drugs and supplyments...

Good luck man, just keep your doses under control and you'll be fine.

**UncleD** · 12-29-2008, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

Good luck man, just keep your doses under control and you'll be fine.

yea i will lol.. good ole 100ml jugs of test lol.... you ever seen 5 of those in a row?? lol its beatiful!!! i get a bonner lookin at it

**smokethedays** · 12-31-2008, 01:55 PM

working on dropping my BF%.
I know I should be bulking but I can't see my BF climbing up, just a pscycological issue I guess.Current stats:

223 lbs. 5'11.5", 9% BF.

Most poeple think Im 235lbs

due to my small bone structure.

**Deltasaurus** · 12-31-2008, 02:02 PM

^^^^I got small bones too its awesome!!!

**smokethedays** · 12-31-2008, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

^^^^I got small bones too its awesome!!!

29" waist bro

I use "chicks" size belt for my back

**Deltasaurus** · 12-31-2008, 02:06 PM

your kidding me 29 waist no way measured where? belly? or right at waistline?

**smokethedays** · 12-31-2008, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

your kidding me 29 waist no way measured where? belly? or right at waistline?

Waist line, right where my jeans should be.
my 32 jeans are sagging

**Deltasaurus** · 12-31-2008, 02:11 PM

thats a good V-shape for sure bro LOL that badass i think my waist it about 31 and im 175 thats hella crazy 29 haha.

Off-topic
What are you doin for newyears?

**smokethedays** · 12-31-2008, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

thats a good V-shape for sure bro LOL that badass i think my waist it about 31 and im 175 thats hella crazy 29 haha.

Off-topic
What are you doin for newyears?

Doing the "smith machine"

Gotta do chest my friend, go home, eat, burn, eat, burn, eat, burn and sleep.

**Deltasaurus** · 12-31-2008, 02:20 PM

LOL nice i think im gunna go to my buddy house and watch the four wheelers my gym is closed today and tomorrow which is cool ill let my sciatic rest,
tonite im gunna play with some fun-guy's LOL

**m2k27** · 01-05-2009, 10:29 PM

sorry to hijack your thread but I notice you recommended a long prop cycle (16 weeks) @ 350mg and I was wondering what pct protocol would you recommend? thanks in advance

**smokethedays** · 01-05-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by m2k27

sorry to hijack your thread but I notice you recommended a long prop cycle (16 weeks) @ 350mg and I was wondering what pct protocol would you recommend? thanks in advance

I'd recommend HCG and Clomid.

1000 IU HCG every 4th day starting 3 days after last shot, continue HCG for 3 weeks.
Clomid: Starts 3days after last shot
day 1: 300 mg
day 2-4 200 mg
day 5-8 100 mg
day 9-28 50 mg

Keep Nolvadex handy for elevated estrogen levels. If needed use at 10 mg/day

**m2k27** · 01-05-2009, 11:27 PM

thanks for the quick reply. I have enough prop for 22 weeks so I might decide to run it a little longer depending on my gains. what dosage would you recommend and how long if I decide to run it at 22 weeks? thanks