Amorphic's Second Cycle Log: Prop/Tren

**Amorphic** · 12-10-2008, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

"You Look Good"

you just had to didnt you?

**scibble** · 12-10-2008, 11:38 PM

if I were to have anything intelligent to say that you don't already know, I'd say it, but you seem to be on top of your weak points.

you're BIG and will look real good after the cutting!

**Kale** · 12-10-2008, 11:39 PM

I did !!! But in all seriousness, if you hadnt pointed out the asymmetric thing with your chest I wouldnt have noticed

**Reed** · 12-10-2008, 11:40 PM

Looking Good bro Later... Haha if you want serious input as all us serious people do my take would be....

For your chest my friend I'd say go with Incline dumbbells. I bet that would help you alot. Take a look at my routine for my chest.... primarly incline press movements. I tend to stick to alot of press movements as it helps develop more mass for me. Don't worry about your bench press. The incline dumbbells made all the difference for me and the developing of my chest. Just my opinion bro. Other than that. may be work on the diet to lean out some more to get your abs showing.

For me what I do is be 100% harsh on myself. Look at it as I ain't no where near perfect yet and how each bodypart can improve. My forearms need more of this, quads more sweep, more cap on my delt, more drop in my triceps etc etc. Then figure out the exercises that will best help me along. Just my .02 cents bro hope i helped

**Amorphic** · 12-10-2008, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Reed500

Looking Good bro Later... Haha if you want serious input as all us serious people do my take would be....

For your chest my friend I'd say go with Incline dumbbells. I bet that would help you alot. Take a look at my routine for my chest.... primarly incline press movements. I tend to stick to alot of press movements as it helps develop more mass for me. Don't worry about your bench press. The incline dumbbells made all the difference for me and the developing of my chest. Just my opinion bro. Other than that. may be work on the diet to lean out some more to get your abs showing.

For me what I do is be 100% harsh on myself. Look at it as I ain't no where near perfect yet and how each bodypart can improve. My forearms need more of this, quads more sweep, more cap on my delt, more drop in my triceps etc etc. Then figure out the exercises that will best help me along. Just my .02 cents bro hope i helped

i agree with what you said. i focused on bulking for as long as i can remember and got a bit out of hand for a while. its winter so i dont plan on cutting hard but i definitely need to drop about 3% bf and i think i'll be sitting at a comfortable bf level. when summer comes im going to shred up as much as possible.

i'll update pics in another month or so to show you guys what i drop off.

**Reed** · 12-10-2008, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Amorphic

i agree with what you said. i focused on bulking for as long as i can remember and got a bit out of hand for a while. its winter so i dont plan on cutting hard but i definitely need to drop about 3% bf and i think i'll be sitting at a comfortable bf level. when summer comes im going to shred up as much as possible.

i'll update pics in another month or so to show you guys what i drop off.

Good luck with it. You know what your doing just keep on with it. Your looking pretty freakin big

**audis4** · 12-11-2008, 01:09 AM

first off props for posting pics.

like you've pointed out....slightly high on BF but a couple wks of clean eating will cure that. Can you shoot up a back pic?

Legs look decent, kill those squats.

Your delts are also nicely shaped along with bi's tri's.

I want to see those traps gain some size!

For chest, my chest is naturally larger but I recently started beginning with incline bench (barbell) and have noticed great size....i know others guys mentioned this but it has worked great for me as well.

Keep us updated on the progress bro!

**Amorphic** · 12-11-2008, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by audis4

first off props for posting pics.

like you've pointed out....slightly high on BF but a couple wks of clean eating will cure that. Can you shoot up a back pic?

Legs look decent, kill those squats.

Your delts are also nicely shaped along with bi's tri's.

I want to see those traps gain some size!

For chest, my chest is naturally larger but I recently started beginning with incline bench (barbell) and have noticed great size....i know others guys mentioned this but it has worked great for me as well.

Keep us updated on the progress bro!

i'll throw up the back pic when i get someone to shave my back tomorrow haha. traps have been weak for me too but theyve slowly been improving. the pictures dont really show what i have for traps since i wasnt flexing them. with a back shot you guys can get a better idea of how they are.

thanks for the critique!

**audis4** · 12-11-2008, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Amorphic

i'll throw up the back pic when i get someone to shave my back tomorrow haha. traps have been weak for me too but theyve slowly been improving. the pictures dont really show what i have for traps since i wasnt flexing them. with a back shot you guys can get a better idea of how they are.

thanks for the critique!

you got it bro!

your traps look good but I wanna see no neck action

ya, my traps have really gone up, I do 4 sets shrugs (heavy on the machine) superset w/ shrugs d-bells.
followed by front raises and flys.

You got her down bro, i'll be following!

btw, best of luck with your dad, hope everything works out for the best bro

**Amorphic** · 12-11-2008, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by audis4

you got it bro!

your traps look good but I wanna see no neck action

ya, my traps have really gone up, I do 4 sets shrugs (heavy on the machine) superset w/ shrugs d-bells.
followed by front raises and flys.

You got her down bro, i'll be following!

btw, best of luck with your dad, hope everything works out for the best bro

thanks bro. appreciate it

**thetank** · 12-11-2008, 02:41 AM

lookin thick man. i can see in your arms when you get cut you're gonna have those crazy squiggly dorian yates style veins goin through ya. lol that shits gonna look trippy man **** i cant wait to see you cut up. arms and legs are thick as hell, traps look good and as much as your chest might be weaker then the rest dropping some bodyfat will make a HUGE difference in bringing it out. how many times a week are you training it? my chest is a weaker point as well...i noticed alot of improvement training it twice a week and even doing some light work inbetween workouts.

**WARMachine** · 12-11-2008, 02:51 AM

Arms and delts look great Morph!

Quads are big and meaty.

Like Audi said, work those traps. They are laggin a little.

And obviously the chest. Reeds workout is killer. Ive secretly been doing it for about two weeks now... It brutal.

**mperk** · 12-11-2008, 12:29 PM

Ok man - these guys hit it all so I'll just say "You look good."

Hahahaha - JK
I do agree w/ previous comments - for the chest i would def do the incline DBs. Also if you do flat bench - do it w/ dbs and raise the bench to a 5or 10% angle. IMO dbs helps build definition as well as thickness in the chest. Also try incline bench cable crossovers. Those are great for getting some extra definition high on your chest altho you won't be able to get the same weight. Make sure when you do them squeeze and hold at the top for 2 secs.
I'd also go for upright rows for the traps and some shrugs in the standing calf machine. Your traps look great but some more size would be awsome. Same with delts.
Really nice work on your arms man - bi's and tris look thick - same with quads - thick as hell!

BTW nice stretch marks too! shows how much you have grown - Props dude!

Lookin forward to seeing your hairy back! - Mine got hairier (is that a word?) on test! lol - I'm lucky tho - it's blond so almost invisible. no waxing yet! Hahahahaha
later man

**WARMachine** · 12-11-2008, 08:02 PM

^^ Haha i noticed those marks as well..

They suck...

I got some too!

**Amorphic** · 12-11-2008, 10:06 PM

back shot

**audis4** · 12-11-2008, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Amorphic

back shot

not bad bro.

What are your lifts looking like?

**Phate** · 12-11-2008, 11:12 PM

as mentioned, traps could use some work, i would also start working forearms as they are a weak point for you IMO, work on lats as well, you have okay width but not much of the defined "sweep" that is characteristic of them, on that note, work on the medial head of your delts to emphasize your shoulder width

**mperk** · 12-11-2008, 11:13 PM

Damn bro - nice back shot - you've got a great taper and your delts look huge in that pose! one mo suggestion - i just started doing forearms on the cables with the D shaped handle - seems to have given me a nit of size and def some striations. just grab the handle palm up and curl the forearm. Support with the opposite arm at the wrist - do those til your forearms are screamin and you'll notice a difference. BTW - you prolly won't want to go too heavy - maybe 3-5 plates max. i like those way better than the barbell curls.

How much did yu gain so far on this cycle?

**Amorphic** · 12-12-2008, 02:01 AM

thanks for the critiques guys. pics down. next set up in a month and we'll do another critique then.

**audis4** · 12-12-2008, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by mperk

Damn bro - nice back shot - you've got a great taper and your delts look huge in that pose! one mo suggestion - i just started doing forearms on the cables with the D shaped handle - seems to have given me a nit of size and def some striations. just grab the handle palm up and curl the forearm. Support with the opposite arm at the wrist - do those til your forearms are screamin and you'll notice a difference. BTW - you prolly won't want to go too heavy - maybe 3-5 plates max. i like those way better than the barbell curls.

How much did yu gain so far on this cycle?

doing straight forearm workouts seem pointless IMO, just do heavy deads with no straps

**mperk** · 12-12-2008, 12:14 PM

^^^^Hey Inzer - good point - kind of depends on your whole w/o plan IMO. I can't do deads cause I have an injured back, and some guys like to do deads w/ straps to go heavier. In my case I found that i made little progress on my forearms until I added in those exercises and they worked for me way better that the traditional wrist curl that I was doing w/ the barbell. i'm just so stoked that i am finally getting forearms that look like I work out. My avi is about 3 months old and I bet i've added at least 1/2-1".

***FireGuy*** · 12-12-2008, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by mperk

Damn bro - nice back shot - you've got a great taper and your delts look huge in that pose! one mo suggestion - i just started doing forearms on the cables with the D shaped handle - seems to have given me a nit of size and def some striations. just grab the handle palm up and curl the forearm. Support with the opposite arm at the wrist - do those til your forearms are screamin and you'll notice a difference. BTW - you prolly won't want to go too heavy - maybe 3-5 plates max. i like those way better than the barbell curls.

How much did yu gain so far on this cycle?

You have "striated" forearms?

**audis4** · 12-12-2008, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by mperk

^^^^Hey Inzer - good point - kind of depends on your whole w/o plan IMO. I can't do deads cause I have an injured back, and some guys like to do deads w/ straps to go heavier. In my case I found that i made little progress on my forearms until I added in those exercises and they worked for me way better that the traditional wrist curl that I was doing w/ the barbell. i'm just so stoked that i am finally getting forearms that look like I work out. My avi is about 3 months old and I bet i've added at least 1/2-1".

hmmm I've never used straps in my life (only chalk) and got 605 for 2 reps yesterday

**Reed** · 12-12-2008, 02:46 PM

I agree w/ mperk kinda depends your goals. If your powerlifting no. Bodybuilding yes. I do forearm workouts and have results. And I also use straps due to the FACT that my lats are stronger than my grip and forearms during wide grip chins, rows, etc. maybe thats why I have such a wide V taper

Plus talked to a few IFBB pros and national level competitors and they all tell me to use them for that exact reason.

**dedic8ed1** · 12-12-2008, 04:18 PM

Dude wtf i missed them already c'mon man!!

**mperk** · 12-13-2008, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

hmmm I've never used straps in my life (only chalk) and got 605 for 2 reps yesterday

You, my man, are one brolic dude! 605 is awsome! Props big time. I've never tried the chalk - it's not allowed at my gym and to be honest haven't seen it in a gym since college - maybe it's a lazy cleanup thing on the part of management. i would love to try it some day - imagine it would feel totally different than sweaty palms on the bar. Not to corrupt you, but if you've never tried straps you may want to give it a go - totally changed my lifting. I even use them when doing dumbell presses 'cause it helps me keep them in the sweet spot of my palm.

**wukillabee** · 12-14-2008, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by dedic8ed1

Dude wtf i missed them already c'mon man!!

Haha, me too.

**thetank** · 12-21-2008, 07:46 AM

wheres the updates hommes?
hope all is well.
peace
tank

**Jfew44** · 01-03-2009, 02:55 PM

Also looking forward to updates. Wondering how the cyp cruise is going. I was thinking of doing this exact cycle for my next, just wondering what all you kept.

**Amorphic** · 01-03-2009, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Jfew44

Also looking forward to updates. Wondering how the cyp cruise is going. I was thinking of doing this exact cycle for my next, just wondering what all you kept.

sorry for the lack of updates, my life has been utter chaos this month but im still keeping it on strong at the gym.

just finished anadrol the other day, it was amazing, one of my favorite compounds. i had zero water retention on it and my weights absolutely skyrocketed, huge vascularity in my biceps and shoulders as well.

overall, i feel fantastic at the gym right now. weights are up in everything and i feel dry and hard.

bench is up to 315 x8-10
incline dumbbells at 110sx10

shoulders military dumbbell raises for 85sx10

bicep curls at 60x10

leg press is stacked i forget the amount of plates it holds

seated dumbbell tricep extensions 120x8

squats at 315x10 (a weak point for me but improving)

im going to start keeping a proper log of my weights to report to you guys.

tren will start again in a few weeks possibly, not totally sure yet, but the duration of this cruise/blast will be until july with the goal of hitting around 220 at 10%

after the summer i will be coming off with pct of toremifine citrate/clomid/hcg as i will be travelling to sweden next september for school if all goes according to plan and i need some cycle off time.

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 01-05-2009, 02:02 AM

Damn,

missed ur sexy pic; better luck next time

Happy New Yrs Broda,
Insane

**Reed** · 01-09-2009, 11:16 AM

Sup yo. You still getting huge??!!?? Yeah let me know how your PCT goes. An idea I was thinking for you and I is adding the SARMs in to maybe ease the regrouping process. Maybe even a peptide or two cjc, ghrp???? Just throwing some ideas around for you and myself. Let me know bud.

**Amorphic** · 01-09-2009, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Reed

Sup yo. You still getting huge??!!?? Yeah let me know how your PCT goes. An idea I was thinking for you and I is adding the SARMs in to maybe ease the regrouping process. Maybe even a peptide or two cjc, ghrp???? Just throwing some ideas around for you and myself. Let me know bud.

i would like to use s4 in pct but as far as i know only guys in the states have access to it since i havent found a source that ships to canada. i can get some gh for a fair price and was thinking of maybe using it for pct as well

for everyone else, sorry for the lack of updates, the semester just started and im busy for a bit sorting it all out. when things are settled in i will update everyone