GitErDun's Cycle Log

**GitErDun** · 11-20-2008, 10:28 PM

Whats shakin boyz n gurls! Been off the boards for a while, but im back and just starting a new bulker. I had planned on doing a cutting cycle bout 6 months ago but it didnt pan out, and ive been training natty for the time being and have decided to do a winter bulker, followed by a cutter to shrip up for the summer. Im gonna do my best to keep this log going with daily posts, so without further adu, heres what my current bulker looks like, and the cutter i plan to run following it:

BULKER
Test Cyp 250mg E3D Wk 1-12
D-Bol 50mg ED Wk 1-4
A-Dex 0.5mg EOD Wk 1-12

PCT
Nolva/Clomid Wk 14-18
40/40/20/20 - 100/50/50/50

CUTTER
WK 1-12 test prop 75mg ED
WK 1-10 Tren Ace 50mg ED
WK 6-12 Anavar 50mg ED
WK 1-12 Letro .25mg ED(is this dosage ok)
WK 10-14 HCG 500iu's E4D

PCT
WK 13-16 Nolva 40mg ED
Wk 13-16 Proviron 50mg ED

As for the current bulker i took my second shot today, its day 4.
Tomorow is shoulder day. I JUST CANT WAIT TILL THIS ISH STARTS KICKIN, IM'A GITERDUN BOYS.

Im gonna do my best to get some before pics up in the next day or two, should be a great way to plot progress.

STATS
25 yrs
5'9
185lbs
bf unknown(have a look at pics) A little on the high side
6 years training

**WARMachine** · 11-20-2008, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by GitErDun

BULKER
Test Cyp 250mg E3D Wk 1-12
D-Bol 50mg ED Wk 1-4
A-Dex 0.5mg EOD Wk 1-12

(This looks good!)

PCT
Nolva/Clomid Wk 14-18
40/40/20/20 - 100/50/50/50

(Too much Clomid for me, but to each's own.)

CUTTER
WK 1-12 test prop 75mg ED
WK 1-10 Tren Ace 50mg ED (If this isnt your first time with Tren id bump it.)
WK 6-12 Anavar 50mg ED (Run this till the day before PCT begins)
WK 1-12 Letro .25mg ED(is this dosage ok) (Are you that gyno prone? if not, stick with the Adex. Always keep letro on hand however.)
WK 10-14 HCG 500iu's E4D (Thats what i would do!)

PCT
WK 13-16 Nolva 40mg ED
Wk 13-16 Proviron 50mg ED (Not a fan of Proviron. Aromasin is a MUCH better choice IMO.)

Looks great bro!

Happy Cycling!

Throw up those pics as well!

Now GIT ER DUN!!

**GitErDun** · 11-20-2008, 10:37 PM

no im not that gyno prone at all, would u suggest just runnin the adex throughout, and if gyno flares up throw in the letro? will adex help with tren related water retention? and yes this will be my first run at the tren, and im fu<kin stoked to give er, to say the least lol

**WARMachine** · 11-20-2008, 11:31 PM

Yes thats what i would do.

If estrogen is controlled from the beginning, there is a low chance of gyno flareing up at all.

And yes, if the gyno still appears, Letro is the answer from thereon.

And since this is your first go around with Tren keep it at 50mgs ED. You can always bump it if its not enough.

Thats the beauty of short esters!

**GitErDun** · 11-20-2008, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by war4btt

yes thats what i would do.

If estrogen is controlled from the beginning, there is a low chance of gyno flareing up at all.

And yes, if the gyno still appears, letro is the answer from thereon.

And since this is your first go around with tren keep it at 50mgs ed. You can always bump it if its not enough.

Thats the beauty of short esters!

u da man war... I appreciate the info! Much obliged!

**GitErDun** · 11-22-2008, 12:03 AM

DAY 5

howdy y'all! another day down, i was tempted by the boys to go out n get absolutely shittered tonight, but i turned em down and it feels great, lol....LOOKIN FORWARD TO HITTIN THE WEIGHT IN THE MORNIN. i switched it up today, planned on doin shoulders, but did arms and had a solid workout.. Still waiting for the dbol to really kick, had a decent pump today, but nothin extrodinary(this is my first run of dbol by the way!) I should have my before pics up before the weekend is over, for anyone out there plannin on followin along. Im eatin everything in sight, but tryin to keep it clean whole foods, although i had a cheat meal today, pound of dry spice wing's...yummmmmm!!! anyways, untill tomorow!
Im outro

**GitErDun** · 11-22-2008, 12:33 AM

oh yea, and for those interested, heres the diet and workout routines im trying to adhere to...diet always seems to be the hardest for me, i just gotta eat eat eat (Sighted from diet forum, entitled bulking primer)

DIET
Meal 1: Pro/Carb
8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 1 cup oatmeal
50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat

Meal 2: Pro/Fat
Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies
55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat

Meal 3: Pro/Carb
Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice
55g protein / 84g carbs / 3g Fat
**Disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.

Meal 4: Pro/Fat
2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies
60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat
Workout

Meal 5: PWO Nutrition
2 Scoops Whey Protein / 80g of Dextrose
40g protein / 80g carbs / 0g fat

Meal 6: PPWO
Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice (Measured Uncooked)
50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat

Meal 7: Pro/Fat
Lean Protein of your choice, 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat

Meal 8: Before Bed
3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil
60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g Fat
That turns into approximately 420 grams protein, 270 grams Carbs, and 83 grams of fat. This is roughly 3500 calories

WORKOUT

Workout #1

EXERCISE
Weighted Chin Ups(wide Grip)
Deadlifts
Barbell Rows
One Arm Dumbell Rows
Close Grip Pulldowns

Workout #2

EXERCISE
Seated Front Barbell Press
Seated Dumbell Press
Lateral Dumbell Raise
Reverse Peck Deck
Lateral Cable Raise

Workout #3

EXERCISE
Leg Extensions
Lying Leg Curls
Free Weight Squats
45 Degree Leg Press
Stiff Legged Deadlift
Standing Calf Raises

Workout #4

EXERCISE Set
Close Grip Bench Press
Skull Crushers
V-bar Pulldown
Alternate Dumbell Curl
Barbell Curl
Concentration Curl

Workout #5

EXERCISE
Incline Barbell Press
Bench Press
Incline Dumbell Press
Peck Deck
Cable Crossovers
Weighted Parallel Bar Dips

FEEL FREE TO MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE INFO

**Phate** · 11-22-2008, 02:12 AM

pics?

**GitErDun** · 11-22-2008, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

pics?

there comin, i should have em up by the end of the weekend!!!

**GitErDun** · 11-22-2008, 11:05 AM

DAY 6

good morning, just took my third pin, everythings goin great. jus bout to eat some breaky then hit the gym... today is a cardio/ab day(sheduled rest day, but im feelin to good to be lazy) be back later on post up my workout

pce

40 min jog on treadmill good sweat

**redz** · 11-22-2008, 11:07 AM

Yeah you will enjoy that cycle. My first was similar to your.

**GitErDun** · 11-23-2008, 11:49 AM

DAY 7

Today is a scheduled rest day, and im gonna take it for sure. A little sore today, so i think the rest will get me primed to start the next weeks workouts. Im gonna have those before(present) pics up a little later today, anyways im out for now.

**GitErDun** · 11-23-2008, 01:32 PM

Here they are, from today...

**GitErDun** · 11-23-2008, 01:56 PM

i had a change of heart, im gonna hit the gym for a little more cardio, nothin else to do...
pceee

**WARMachine** · 11-23-2008, 07:14 PM

Honestly bro, you couldve gained more naturally...

Your BF% looks a little high to be cycling. Maybe 18-20%?

I mean youre already on so i cant say much else, but still...

How long have you been on the sample diet?

Keep up with the pics. Maybe new ones every 4 weeks.

**clockwork_killer** · 11-23-2008, 07:30 PM

yo mate good look with ur cycling

**GitErDun** · 11-23-2008, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Honestly bro, you couldve gained more naturally...

Your BF% looks a little high to be cycling. Maybe 18-20%?

I mean youre already on so i cant say much else, but still...

How long have you been on the sample diet?

Keep up with the pics. Maybe new ones every 4 weeks.

I totally agree with u, and i wont lie, i probubly could have gained a little more naturally, but in all honesty, i think most people using aas today are in the same boat as me... not that im trying to justify it being the right way to go about things, but rather just putting it out there.... but like u said, ive already started, and i plan to make the absolute most i can out of it...I will post pics every 4 weeks, so as to better monitor my progress... next pics will go up Dec. 21st. As far as that diet i have listed goes, what are your thoughts concerning this? if any... also, what are your thoughts on cardio? being that im carying the bf that i am, what would be a safe bet as far as times/wk and length???

**GitErDun** · 11-23-2008, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by clockwork_killer

yo mate good look with ur cycling

thanks bro! always good to know people are payin attention lol... a little motivation u know!

**GitErDun** · 11-23-2008, 10:12 PM

removed pics for annonymity, will repost dec 21st, with new set for comparison.

**trainhrdrthnu** · 11-24-2008, 01:24 AM

nice good luck brahh

**GitErDun** · 11-24-2008, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by trainhrdrthnu

nice good luck brahh

thanks brotha...

**WARMachine** · 11-24-2008, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by GitErDun

I totally agree with u, and i wont lie, i probubly could have gained a little more naturally, but in all honesty, i think most people using aas today are in the same boat as me... not that im trying to justify it being the right way to go about things, but rather just putting it out there.... but like u said, ive already started, and i plan to make the absolute most i can out of it...I will post pics every 4 weeks, so as to better monitor my progress... next pics will go up Dec. 21st. As far as that diet i have listed goes, what are your thoughts concerning this? if any... also, what are your thoughts on cardio? being that im carying the bf that i am, what would be a safe bet as far as times/wk and length???

No that diet is better damn good IMO. As for cardio, you are carrying excess BF, so the sooner you get rid of it the better...

Up the cardio a little bit. Maybe do what youre doing now, and add some more high intensity training, or another day for the week.

You should look into using Clen during your PCT to get rid of some BF%.

Clen FAQ
Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.

This should help clear up any question you may have about it...

**GitErDun** · 11-24-2008, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

No that diet is better damn good IMO. As for cardio, you are carrying excess BF, so the sooner you get rid of it the better...

Up the cardio a little bit. Maybe do what youre doing now, and add some more high intensity training, or another day for the week.

You should look into using Clen during your PCT to get rid of some BF%.

Clen FAQ
Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.

This should help clear up any question you may have about it...

fu<kin eh! im deff. gonna look into the clen during pct, as for the cardio, ive decided to up it and throw 3-4 30-40 min sessions per week, medium intensity, possibly some hiit. Thanks for the info bro, definately helpful... much appreciated!!!

lol

**GitErDun** · 11-24-2008, 08:14 PM

DAY 8

Awesome workout today, great pumps, all around feeling of well being. Stepped on the scale today, and to my suprise, already up 9lbs from 185-194 AWW YEA. as i progess though i expect the weight gain on the scale to not be quite as dramatic, as i chalk most of the current gain to dbol related water retention.... but rather i predict to see more of a body composition change, as i add lean mass while the bf drops. i guess only time will tell, Dec 21st is the week 4 comparison photo day, so until then im'a just keep doin what im doin. In the mean time im'a do some research into clen during pct, see what i can soak up.

GitErDun Boyees!!

**GitErDun** · 11-25-2008, 07:00 PM

DAY 9
Another good day in the gym, hit er hard. Shoulders today, awesome pumps...Lower back pumps started to get more intense today, even riding the bike after workout seemed to cause some uncomfort, ah well, just gotta keep pushin through the pain. Fourth jab today, went well. All in all everythings goin smoothly. On a side not, i seem to never be able to eat enough, always hungry, 24 hours a day, and im shitting like an elephant on a ton of xlax, like 6 times a day!!! jus thought ud like to know haha

**WARMachine** · 11-25-2008, 07:48 PM

No not really bro, but thanks...

You should start posting up the routine. Exercises, sets, reps per, etc...

It makes for a better log... We, along with yourself can also see how your strength increases...

**GitErDun** · 11-25-2008, 08:38 PM

sounds like a plan war... i will get on that starting tomorow....if im gonna keep a log, may as well do it right!

**clockwork_killer** · 11-25-2008, 08:58 PM

i for 1 will be folling ur log mate

**GitErDun** · 11-26-2008, 05:32 PM

DAY 10
Today was supposed to be legs, but my knees been buggin me this week so im goin postpone till friday, and did chest instead. Tryin to focus more on proper form then big weight to start with in the first few weeks, could deffinately push more, but anyways...

Bench Press:
12 x 135
10 x 135
8 x 155
6 x 185

Incline Barbell Press:
12 x 115
10 x 115
8 x 165
4 x 175

Cable X-overs
12 x 45/side
10 x 60/side
10 x 60/side
8 x 50/side
failure reps x 30/side

Dips
3 sets till failure

Pushups:
3 Sets till failure

wanted to get in on the peck deck, but couldnt wait around some old bugger jus wouldnt get outta the way, and i was in a rush. threw in 15 min on bike before and after workout, kept the sweat throughout the entire time in the gym... good intensity.

anyways thats day 10, to be honest i didnt feel all that "on" today in the gym, think it might have somethin to do with sleep, only been able to get no more then 5-6 hours in a night so far this week, feelin a little slow. but up another 2 pounds on the scale. sitting at 196lbs.

**liftohio** · 11-26-2008, 10:16 PM

Some pretty good progress keep it up!

**GitErDun** · 11-26-2008, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by liftohio

Some pretty good progress keep it up!

thanks bro, i will! the comments always help keep me motivated to giv'r hell

**WARMachine** · 11-26-2008, 10:43 PM

Keep up the log, youll love it when you see how far youve come.

**GitErDun** · 11-27-2008, 08:04 PM

DAY 11
Arm day

10 min warmup on bike

Close grip bench press
65 x 15
105 x 12
125x 10
125x 8
125 x 6
105 x failure reps

Skull crushers
35 x 12
45 x 12
45 x 10
45 x 8
35 x failure

seated bi-curls barbell
15 x 20/side
30 x 12/side
6 x 35
5 x 35
failure x 20

standing easy bar curls
65 x 12
65 x 10
65 x 6
65 x 6

cable preacher curls
12 x 35
10 x 45
8 x 45
6 x 45

20 min on treadmill to finish up

had a decent pump today, but nothing like what i expected to get from the dbols... pump seemed to die down within minuits after each set.... maybe another few days and ill really start feelin it.(unless of course my dbols bunkins, or under dosed, which is hard to beleive considering the weight ive put on in such a short time) all around though today was a pretty good day.

**GitErDun** · 11-27-2008, 08:19 PM

quick question, regarding the dbol , will water retention start to subside upon discontinuing it at the end of week 4? or will i have to wait untill the end of PCT??? ive noticed my stomach seems to stick out a bit and feel alot harder lately... thinkin its the bols...?

**WARMachine** · 11-28-2008, 07:34 PM

Dbol is the cause of your water retention yes...

You might expect a lil water retention along with the Test as well. But honestly, you should be fine as long as your diet and training are good. You shouldnt gain much BF% if at all.

**BIG_TRUCK** · 11-29-2008, 12:07 AM

I like your cycle choices.

Nice simple (but effective) bulker.

Cutter looks good as well. I'm not a fan of most AI's , and try to stay clear of letro because of joint issues as well as how it can negatively effect your blood work in many ways. Aromasin is supposed to be a *gentler* choice but is also pretty harsh imo.

Goodluck and grow!

**GitErDun** · 11-29-2008, 03:57 PM

Day 12

Squats
12 x 105
12 x 155
10 x 195
8 x 225
8 x 225
failure x 225

Sled 45 leg press
12 x 180
270 x 10
270 x 8
270 x 6

Standing calf raises
12 x full stack
12x full stack
12 x full stack
12 x full stack

Today was a pretty good day, although i had to skip part of my leg workout due to a problem im having with my right knee, i dont wont to aggrevate it, so i skipped over leg extensions, and curls this week, as it places too much pressure on my knee. No need to overdue it and wind up screwed.