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    Going to keep my calories the same through-out Pct which is currently about 3500 a day split into 40/40/20 ratio. Will also have to adjust workout volume back a tad. This is tough for me because I'm such a creature of habit but my joints are telling me other-wise.

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    Will be adding T4 to my Hgh protocol starting tomorrow. Will be taking 100 mcgs. a day.

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    Damn sorry i missed so much of this Buster. You've done a great job. And you've started the hgh, great.

    I hear ya w/the joint issue. Ours are probably very similar.

    Good luck w/your future plans!

    Talk soon, Buddy.

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    Looking great buster !! You did good with this cycle !!
    You should cut up alil bit with the hgh

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    Getting ready to drop the Tbol, I had decreased it from 50 mgs a day to 40 mgs. At this stage of the game it is purely pshychological and just want to keep workouts solid. Will be mixing a little ephedra in with my C4 for a pre-workout drink during Pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrlabat View Post
    Looking great buster !! You did good with this cycle !!
    You should cut up alil bit with the hgh
    Not in toooo big ahurry to cut. Calories must be kept high during Pct or you will lose a good chunk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Damn sorry i missed so much of this Buster. You've done a great job. And you've started the hgh, great.

    I hear ya w/the joint issue. Ours are probably very similar.

    Good luck w/your future plans!

    Talk soon, Buddy.
    Thants alright my friend, there's always the NEXT one! Need to hook up and do some weighted chins (haha)!

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    That would be cool. And you'd whip my ass. haha....

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    That would be cool. And you'd whip my ass. haha....
    Well, my flat bench svcks and I know yours doesn't so I guess we can call it a wash!

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    Last good shoulder workout before Pct kicks off sunday.
    Here are the highlights:
    Dumbell Shoulder Presses: 80x12, 90x12, 100x10, 110x5 drop to 70 for (I forgot but I finished off with partial 1/4 reps)
    I dropped the Tbol today and took my last Hcg shot @ 375 iu's.

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    Today was my first 4iu hgh shot and my first day on Pct. I woke up early to hit the head and took my Torem and Nov . I will be doing the following protocol for the first time: Torem: 120/120/60/60/60
    Nov: 40/40/20/20/20
    Will keep this log up until the end of pct so we can see if the combination of Hgh and this protocol helped me maintain gains or not.

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    Should keep virtually everything. Mirin profile pic too

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick4588 View Post
    Should keep virtually everything. Mirin profile pic too
    Wish'n and hop'n!

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    First chest/tri workout on Pct and went in with the mentality to stay within 5% of max poundages. I noticed benching I was getting a little nagging shoulder pain so that was a good indicator to not over-do-it!
    Flat bench: (135x12, 225x8, 275x8) warm-up sets, 300x8 with 1 forced rep and 1 neg, 275x8 drop 225x7 done with bench. trying to keep the numbers in the 8 range as I feel 4's and 5's are just to much strain on my shoulder joints right now.
    Incline bench: 2 working sets, last set a triple drop set
    weighted dips: 2 working sets , 1 neg at the end of both sets
    flat flyes: 2 sets of 12 for a good stretch!

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    Did back yesterday and still producing some solid numbers (for now anyway). I have been advised to take my hgh/t4 either an hour before a carb meal or after. My plan was to inject and go for a run but it is stilll a little chilly up here where I live so I have opted to get up take shot and go back to bed for an hour. Might sound pretty lazy but I only average 5 to 6 hours sleep a day (work nights).

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    Well I finally did it. tweaked my quad by not warming up properly and was doing 10 plates on each side of the leg press by my 4 th set. This was all in an effort to start scaling back my workouts a bit. Moral of the story= Don't skip your warm-up sets.

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    hope the tweaked quad dont mess you up to bad buster .. iv tweaked my glut with SLD a lil bit back from jumping strait in to my working set

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrlabat View Post
    hope the tweaked quad dont mess you up to bad buster .. iv tweaked my glut with SLD a lil bit back from jumping strait in to my working set
    Just being STUPID on my part, already feels better and will be able to proceed as planned. I def like the Torem over clomid, no mood swings!

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    Well, survived my first week of pct and only dropped a pound. Workouts have been soild but my joints are feeling it a little bit. Have been keeping calories up and will keep them there until pct is over.

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    Good stuff, how's libido?

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick4588 View Post
    Good stuff, how's libido?
    Libido is actually ok. Taking trib and everything seems to be working ok. Obviously the 24 hour teen-age feeling has gone bye-bye but that is to be expected. I have to say I like Torem waaaaaaay better then clomid, def not as moody.

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    Liquid cialis better than trib, but to each their own

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick4588 View Post
    Liquid cialis better than trib, but to each their own
    My brother tells me the same thing and it is on my list of things to order!

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    Lifts are still pretty good heading into week 2 of Pct. Have only lost 1 lb. so far. I did chest/tri's yesterday and the numbers weren't too bad.
    Chest:
    Incline bench: 135x12, 185x12, 225x10, 275x6
    Dbl flat: 90x12, 100x10, 110x8 (only have up to 110 lb dbls.)
    Weighted dips: 2 sets with 70 lb. dbl. for 6-10 reps
    Flat flyes: 40x12x2
    My thought is that as long as I can perform at least one solid set in the max weight range (or 5%) that I was on-cycle then the muscle are still getting the stimulation and need to be of size to handle the load. The key is not to over do it!

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    First set-back in pct today. Went out to do a 3 mile run and at the half way point strained a calf muscles. Had to gimp back home half walking/ half jogging when the other calf tweaked out on me. What a sight, finally got home and have been doing a slow burn ever since. Def should have stretched before the run.

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    That sucks man. Stretchhhhh

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    Will be taking today and saturday off and then begin my new rotation. I changed things in an effort to give my shoulders a little more rest time.
    Day1: Chest, Bi's, and abs
    Day2: Legs
    Day3: Off (fasted cardio once calves are up to snuff)
    Day4: Shoulders, Tri's
    Day5: Off (cardio)
    Day6: Back, Traps
    Day7: Off

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    Starting week 3 of Pct. Have lost a total of 2 lbs. so far. Joints aching a bit but that could be from the hgh plus my hands feel a bit numb most of the time. All in all strength has still been decent and still striving to keep poundages within 5 to 10 % of max poundages used on cycle for my heaviest worlking set only to avoid injury but still stimulate the muscle.

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    Ok, pct does svck but what are ya gonna do! I would say I def bottomed out during week 2. Trying to stay focused on having solid workouts which can be a bit of challenge when you are used to lifting up the whole world. Not much to report on the hgh other then some achy joints and some hand tingling/numbing. I do sleep better but that could because I am off the tren . Weight holding at 206.

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    I like the new routine that I am doing, seems to be giving me enough rest while being able to go as heavy as possible. Happy I only have a week of Pct left to say the least. I am still giving Torem a big thumbs up for better moods!

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    Week 4 of Pct starts today. Sure missing that big pumped feeling despite the fact that I have only lost a total of 2 to 2 lbs. so far and the tape measure hasn't really changed. It still just doesn't look quite the same but that's the way it goes. Going to start doing decline bench in my chest routine to take a little pressure off of the shoulder joint and still be able to go heavy.

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    Worse dream came true during Pct. Caught a nasty stomach virus and dropped 8 lbs. in two days. I am sure most of the weight loss is dehydration but I feel weak as can be and have no appetite.

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    Looks like I caught the norovirus. Nasty little bug that hits like a freight train. Last for about 48 hrs. and then if that's not bad enough, the gastrointestinal discomfort last a few more days. What can ya do! I am pretty bumed about the weight loss after busting my hump on-cycle and having a decent Pct and only losing a few pounds up to that point. I need to stay positive and take one day at a time.
    I did train shoulders and legs yesterday which was Ok considering the circumstances. Didn't break any records but still had a decent workout. Still not much apetite, force-feeding has svcked but I need to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    Looks like I caught the norovirus. Nasty little bug that hits like a freight train. Last for about 48 hrs. and then if that's not bad enough, the gastrointestinal discomfort last a few more days. What can ya do! I am pretty bumed about the weight loss after busting my hump on-cycle and having a decent Pct and only losing a few pounds up to that point. I need to stay positive and take one day at a time.
    I did train shoulders and legs yesterday which was Ok considering the circumstances. Didn't break any records but still had a decent workout. Still not much apetite, force-feeding has svcked but I need to eat.
    True Juicer's mentality right there, haha. Good luck with keeping the gains and improving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlainDL View Post
    True Juicer's mentality right there, haha. Good luck with keeping the gains and improving.
    Thanks man, just goes to show that a setback can occur at anytime, but it really svcks when your almost at the finish line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    Worse dream came true during Pct. Caught a nasty stomach virus and dropped 8 lbs. in two days. I am sure most of the weight loss is dehydration but I feel weak as can be and have no appetite.
    Happened to me, last 2 runs. I lost a ton with the flu in november. It will come back, just stay positive

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick4588 View Post
    Happened to me, last 2 runs. I lost a ton with the flu in november. It will come back, just stay positive
    I was pretty devestated at first glance, because I had a great cycle and Pct wasn't going that bad either (for Pct anyway). I went from 206/207 down to 200 and it felt like it sucked the life out of me (where did I go?, I thought to myself). Ahhhh, if it wasn't that, it would be a torn muscle or something else.

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    You've got some killer lats, dude. I'm interested to see how they turn out after the cycle is over.

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    norovirus was spreading like wild recently, took out a good portion of my office. It sucks, man. Puking for 2 days straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelectronic View Post
    You've got some killer lats, dude. I'm interested to see how they turn out after the cycle is over.
    Thanks bro, cycle is over and they are still there; they even survived the norovirus!

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