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    Quote Originally Posted by AliYousaf View Post
    You are right Mr.
    Just wondering is Aromasin any better than Letro ? .. Or Letrozole too can be substituted with Aromasin in this cycle of yours.

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    I don't have experience with letro, so I can only speak about Aromasin. I think Aromasin is the mildest AI, and I'm using even lower than the recommended dosage and it's more than enough for me at this point. I'm sure ether should be fine, just listen to your body and adjust dosage accordingly

    Quote Originally Posted by Psaletta View Post
    Remember to let your body rest SB. I know it's hard when you are pumped full of test but to maximize your gains ya gotta let those new muscles grow.
    I'm afraid this test is now in full control of my diet, training and sex life.

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    Day 12:

    Yesterday I had a major food binge. The test is really taking over at this point. However weight this morning is still 208lb.
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    My goal now is to pack on as much quality muscle mass as possible. I'm feel hungry all the time, I will EAT and I KNOW my body's ready to grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick_beard

    I don't have experience with letro, so I can only speak about Aromasin. I think Aromasin is the mildest AI, and I'm using even lower than the recommended dosage and it's more than enough for me at this point. I'm sure ether should be fine, just listen to your body and adjust dosage accordingly

    Thanks for the update.. Anyways I have been following this thread I am sure a lot of other do as well. Informative.
    I read someone recommended hCG for your balls.. Lol.. How's that part coming along ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliYousaf View Post
    Thanks for the update.. Anyways I have been following this thread I am sure a lot of other do as well. Informative.
    I read someone recommended hCG for your balls.. Lol.. How's that part coming along ??

    Sent from my iPhone.

    I will try to get a hold of some by week 12. If I'm gonna run HCG at all, it would be for 10 days @ 500iu ED after the last jab.

    For future cycles I'll have it for sure before I start. It's always better to have it than not, especially as you get into heavier cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick_beard View Post
    I literally feel high from this test. Very impressed with the quality and sooo look forward for the up coming weeks. I just feel happy 24/7, lots of energy, I just wanna be around people, move, go out, do stuff, workout, get pumped, eat and hump everything in site!!

    No aggression whatsoever. In fact I'm feeling so great the things that used to piss me off now I just don't give a ****! Life is good and it's about to get even better!!

    Test increases dopamine levels that is why you feel that way. It will taper off

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    Day 13:

    Weight this morning 211lb! I did my 5th pin this morning. Into my delt again, but this time with a 23g 1" needle. I'm still experimenting, but for the future I think the best thing is to use 20g needle for drawing and 25g 1" for injecting. That's all I'm gonna buy next time.

    Today I'm forcing myself to take a rest day. I really don't want to, but I know my CNS needs it.

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    Last edited by Sick_beard; 01-28-2013 at 06:06 PM.

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    Day 14:


    For some reason I'm down one lb this morning.. but woke up feeling amazing. I can tell it's gonna be a good day at the gym.

    It seems everything I do these days is an investment for that one hour I'm gonna spend with my barbel. And I have to say so far my investments are paying off quite well

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    Day 15:

    Starting to notice increase in strength and aggression at the same time, maybe because both are somewhat related. I'm a calm person in general and I'll be ok as long as I get my workout on and release this aggression in the gym.

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    Good log man, keep it up

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    I have acquire some HCG and Anavar (among other things).

    The HCG I'm gonna run for sure at the end before PCT. The Anavar I might or might not add for a few weeks at the end. But for now I'm not gonna worry too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick_beard View Post
    Day 14:


    For some reason I'm down one lb this morning.. but woke up feeling amazing. I can tell it's gonna be a good day at the gym.

    It seems everything I do these days is an investment for that one hour I'm gonna spend with my barbel. And I have to say so far my investments are paying off quite well
    maybe it is because you only eat once a day

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
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    What the hell was that? lol

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    Day 16:

    6th injection so far done! I went for the lateral head of my left triceps this time and used the 27g 1/2" needle. I liked it, I think I'll do another pin in my right triceps next time before exploring another site.

    My weight has stabilized around 211lb for the past 3 days. So I'm increasing calories from 3,500 to 3,750 for this week. I'm definitely noticing changes in the mirror, and people are starting to compliment/ comment on my gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by thex95

    maybe it is because you only eat once a day
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    Agreed.
    Weight increase/ decrease has to do with net calorie intake.. nothing more, nothing less. Hence I'm increasing my calories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thex95

    maybe it is because you only eat once a day
    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr

    Agreed.
    Eating once or 8 times has no difference and nutrient timing is irrelevant, hitting your macros/calorie goals for the day is all that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BR0DIE View Post

    Eating once or 8 times has no difference and nutrient timing is irrelevant, hitting your macros/calorie goals for the day is all that matters.
    Would you rather spread the nutrients threw out the day keeping your body happily replenished all the time or choke back one ungodly meal and only digest half of it before it comes out your ass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soar View Post
    Would you rather spread the nutrients threw out the day keeping your body happily replenished all the time or choke back one ungodly meal and only digest half of it before it comes out your ass?
    You really pull facts out of your ass my friend. There are countless studies showing that spreading your calories or eating them all at once makes no difference in terms of nutrient utilization. I've posted 10+ such studies in my other threads, but you can't convince someone of something if they simply chose to ignore the facts.

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    And in everyone of your threads you have given proof just how moronic you are. You have no business being on a forum that is trying to point people in the right direction. You speak out of your ass with bullshit facts that are irrelevant to what we are trying to accomplish.

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    You'll be a malnourished TRT poster boy by the time you hit 25. Good luck in life my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soar View Post
    You'll be a malnourished TRT poster boy by the time you hit 25. Good luck in life my friend.
    this minus good luck, I really dont care what happens to such an ignorant child

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    Quote Originally Posted by BR0DIE View Post
    Eating once or 8 times has no difference and nutrient timing is irrelevant, hitting your macros/calorie goals for the day is all that matters.
    wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by thex95 View Post
    this minus good luck, I really dont care what happens to such an ignorant child
    This "child" is probably more jacked than you. Do you even lift??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BR0DIE View Post
    Eating once or 8 times has no difference and nutrient timing is irrelevant, hitting your macros/calorie goals for the day is all that matters.
    This is a blanket statement, i'm not a fan of absolutes. Our bodies are complex and to sum it all up with one sentence like this is a bit ignorant IMO, not to mention irresponsible. However, I don't disagree with some of what you're saying here, specifically with regard to meal frequency. I have differing opinions on nutrient timing however.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soar View Post
    Would you rather spread the nutrients threw out the day keeping your body happily replenished all the time or choke back one ungodly meal and only digest half of it before it comes out your ass?
    I could ask this same question but reverse it - would you rather perpetually underfeed your body with tiny meals all throughout the day, barely giving it enough to survive on, or eat a big meal and actually build some muscle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick_beard View Post
    Cycle Stars out like this:

    Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg Injected Every 3rd Day
    Exemestane (Aromasin ) - 6.25mg Everyday
    Anavar ? (may or may not include this)

    HCG : 500iu Everyday for 10 days at the end of the cycle, stopping 4 days before PCT.

    PCT Plan:
    Clomid: 100/50/50/50
    Nolva: 40/20/20/20


    My Goal is to run a basic experimental cycle of AAS, see how it effects my body, put on quality muscle mass in the process and come out shredded.


    Stats:
    21yo
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    ~13% BF


    Before pics:

    Attachment 132076Attachment 132091



    >> Summary/ Results: <<


    Week 1:
    By the end of week 1 I started noticing more energy/ libido increase. Overall mood and sense well being are also improving.. Nuts are starting to feeling a little weird, I guess getting ready to go on vacation.


    Week 2:
    Energy levels increasing, I'm slowly gaining more weight (water/ glycogen), but I have yet to see anything major in the strength department. No sides at all so far. I'm feeling great, but I have to mention my appetite is really revving up. I have to eat at least a 2,000 cal meal as soon as I wake before I can even begin to function.

    It terms of appearance, my muscles are starting to look more full, and pumps are amazing at the gym. I'm starting to notice the veins running down my arms 24/7 and I just look slightly more vascular in general. I don't think I've added any raw muscle mass yet (LBM). But at this point all conditions seem optimal for growth to take place.



    Week 3:
    Starting to notice an increase in both strength and aggression. I also have to shave more often now, as I notice my hair is growing at a slightly faster rate than usual.



    ((week 3 in progress))









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    Best of luck you should take more befour pics and I will be following your thread.
    Eat big and train hard and by the time your cycle is done the girls might be able
    To smell testosterone lmfaoooo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziz View Post
    Best of luck you should take more befour pics and I will be following your thread.
    Eat big and train hard and by the time your cycle is done the girls might be able
    To smell testosterone lmfaoooo.
    Heheh thanks for following man, you won't be let down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick_beard View Post
    Heheh thanks for following man, you won't be let down
    No problem I'm thinking of running a test c only cycle sometime
    And you should measure your arms,legs,chest etc and post the
    Measurements so we can see if any change accured. Anyways
    Keep updating us and for your cycle I suggest you eat 5-6 meals
    A day that's just my 2 cents. and remember Nobody is big enough
    Aziz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick_beard View Post
    This "child" is probably more jacked than you. Do you even lift??
    Lol young guys like yourself who are so ignorant are just adorable. Must dudes mature a little more than you by 21 but hey their has to be some late bloomers. Do I even lift? Really? I ddnt think anyone would ever actually try to use this on this board as its clearly the words of an imature child boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick_beard View Post
    This "child" is probably more jacked than you. Do you even lift??
    Lol sounds like a lot of douches i know.

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    why is OP banned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thex95 View Post
    wrong
    in regards to body composition it's 100% correct. In regards to optimal performance it's a bit grey but highly personal and will really not make a considerable impact at the end of the day. Personally I train fasted better than after eating food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soar View Post
    And in everyone of your threads you have given proof just how moronic you are. You have no business being on a forum that is trying to point people in the right direction. You speak out of your ass with bullshit facts that are irrelevant to what we are trying to accomplish.
    Funny thing is he's right and speaking out of your ass is what YOU'RE doing. Meal timing has no effect on body composition. Everyone knows this nowadays lol. Do you REALLY think the human body would evolve to waste food when most of pre-agricultural humans and prehumans experienced long fasts and subsequent feasts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwood View Post
    why is OP banned?
    Well it all started with him saying it was "100% correct" that eating only one meal a day would not impact gains........

    Good luck to you, you're gonna need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwood View Post
    Meal timing has no effect on body composition. Everyone knows this nowadays lol. ?
    SB was unable to provide an answer to the following question, but his genious predicessor can.

    If meal timing / scheduling makes no difference, then why do the biggest guys in the world & the IFBB pro's eat religiously every 3 - 4 hours?

    Is it possible that they all have it wrong & you & your scrawny mentor are right? Why are you guys so small then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwood View Post
    Do you REALLY think the human body would evolve to waste food when most of pre-agricultural humans and prehumans experienced long fasts and subsequent feasts?
    And how many of those "pre-agricultural humans and prehumans" were large, muscular guys, research shows none of them were, they were all skin & bones, desperately scraping the bottom of the barrel to survive.

    Yeah that's the diet I want to mimic.................BRILLIANT............

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    SB was unable to provide an answer to the following question, but his genious predicessor can.

    If meal timing / scheduling makes no difference, then why do the biggest guys in the world & the IFBB pro's eat religiously every 3 - 4 hours?

    Is it possible that they all have it wrong & you & your scrawny mentor are right? Why are you guys so small then?

    IFBB pros have to eat more frequent meals simply because they have to consume very high number of calories. Their stomachs simply can't handle the volume of food in a single setting. It has no advantage in terms of muscle building, it's a matter of practicality, nothing more, nothing less.

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    You know what...........the truth is, this is just a lazy fvcking cop out for all you inexperienced clowns that can't bothered to take the time to do things right..............you fvcking guys are so lacking in discipline, knowledge & experience you will follow ANY god damned bull sh!t you find that suits your lazy, undisciplined lifestyle. Show one person that eats once a day or only 2 or 3 meals a day that isn't scrawny..............

    "Fvck eating the right way, just gimme the steroids & one meal a day, the magic pill will make up for my lack of experience & knowledge & I'll be just as big as the pro's on one meal a day.......................I'll show them"


    WHAT A GOD DAMNED MOTHER FVCKING CROCK OF COMPLETELY RETARDED BULL SH!T!!!!!!!!!!
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