Tren E/Test E Log

[RangerDanger830]

My BF% has been fluctuating on cycle as I attempted to dial in the best calorie range for a recomp cycle. So far I am still not completely sold on the whole recomp thing. It seems convenient if I am cycling in the Spring just before warm weather. Any other time I would still prefer traditional bulking and cutting, but maybe I am just set in my ways with what I know best.

So here is a sneak peak forearm picture. It sure doesn't look like kel's legs but considering where I started, which was no vascularity where you could barely see the blue of the veins, to this is good for me in just a few weeks.



I am having dieters remorse, I underestimated the power of Tren so I did not eat with a big calorie deficit, not as big as I could have. Now that I am somewhat familiar with Tren I know I can go much lower. It just sucks that I didn't realize how low I could go until the second half of the cycle. I was just trying to err on the side of caution and not lose too much LBM.

[RangerDanger830]

I do not know how this happened as I have always injected .1ml extra of each compound per injection but I have enough compounds to run my Tren 12 weeks and Test to week 14. I am on week 7, a lot of people advise against Tren that long so I have a decision to make. I am at least running Tren 10 weeks.

[RangerDanger830]

Up 7lbs, continuing to lose fat. Heartburn was corrected by Prevacid, I haven't had a single flare up since starting it. It is MUCH better than just eating tums which only help briefly but faster acting.

Getting leaner now, still not as lean as I'd like to be but I haven't been eating at a huge deficit either like mentioned before. Getting stronger still, I would recommend ten weeks on Tren at this dose. It took til about week 6 until the benefits were obvious in the mirror.

High libido still with this ratio of Tren:test. Not many issues from the caber either. Insomnia is still the same as before. I think those with the severe sides are just using doses too high, 400mg seems great.

Acne just starting popping up, nothing bad though. I've inly had two pimples on my back and maybe 5 elsewhere. They aren't big, not like teenagers'. They're hardly noticeable but I suspect it'll worsen slightly before it's said and done.

As of right now my side effects are all mild and consist of:

Slightly high BP, sweats, shortness of breath, and the only other one is not mild and it is the muscle pumps. Worst ones I've ever had but as long as you avoid certain exercises you're good.

[ghettoboyd]

400mg is my sweet spot for tren as well...ive tried up to 600 for a whole cycle once and I was miserable with the sides and the higher dose didn't equal better results imho no better than 400mg...ive been on cycle with tren at 400mg for the last 10 weeks and im cool as a cucumber and actually loving the results...im actually able to do cardio for 20-30 mins post workout with no issues...glad things are going well buddy keep at it...

[RangerDanger830]

Thanks, as far as cardio goes I can use the elliptical all day, running and jump rope is out of the question. Tren being as anabolic as it is I have no need to do large amounts of cardio so the elliptical is plenty.

[ghettoboyd]

Thanks, as far as cardio goes I can use the elliptical all day, running and jump rope is out of the question. Tren being as anabolic as it is I have no need to do large amounts of cardio so the elliptical is plenty.

the elliptical is what I use as well cus its so low impact on my knees, but I did finally get to go mountain biking for 2hrs yesterday so I guess im going to get my cardio in this way till it gets too dam hot...anyways nice log...

[RangerDanger830]

Thanks, I love mountain biking too. There's some tough trails where I live that take my ego down a few notches every time I go.

[cool7425]

How has your mood been lately? Found a way to let the tren not affect your mood as much?

[RangerDanger830]

Well to be honest my mood is about normal. Even better than it has been on previous cycles. I think the reason is that I'm just getting better at controlling my emotions. My main issue on cycle is fussing at my woman. If you've ever spent a lot of time in serious relationships you know being calm and communicative is the best way to go.

There is no doubt that these substances affect your mood, but I do think a lot of guys blow it out of proportion. I have been struggling with PTSD and anger issues for years now so I've figured out how to avoid stressors well. I think that may be another reason I've been so calm.

The secret for me is to vent, if I let things build up in cycle, even a little, I'll explode. I think managing your other hormones such as estrogen well makes the cycle as mild as it can be.

Aside from anger, my libido has been fairly high. Not as high as a pure test cycle but higher than average. I've been motivated more and more as the cycle goes on. I've even made an attempt at not being an introvert anymore and starting hanging out with a few people from my university outside of work/class.

Hope that answer was adequate. I will say this is my 8th ish cycle so I have quite a bit of practice with controlling my mood. I was a drill sergeant in the Army at Benning and you get pretty good at turning off and on emotions. But then again, everyone is different. Just don't let on cycle behavior make you who you are or ruin your relationships.

[RangerDanger830]

Up to 221-222. Not sure on BF, never got that scan done. I took the advice given early on in this cycle and am doing a few more weeks. Instead of 10 on Tren and 12 on test I'll do 11 and 13 since thats the amount if compounds I have, might as well finish it off. In case you missed it my original plan was 8 and 10.

Still getting stronger. I went to a powerlifting gym today and lifted heavy just for the sake of not having done it in awhile. In conclusion I am much stronger than the weights I posted previously. I had no issue doing 4 sets if 8 reps of 365 on flat bench. I was dipping 4 sets of 8 with four "biscuits" as the Rock calls em. The owner invited me to a private competition this Saturday after seeing me lift. I guess the Tren has been working better than I thought. This makes me wonder what could've been if I would've done a traditional bulk cycle with heavy lifting.

Abs are more defined every day, I love it. Still sweating my ass off with hot flashes. Not sure if I typed this yet but the Prevacid is amazing for the reflux.

[kelkel]

Not sure if I typed this yet but the Prevacid is amazing for the reflux.

Amazing stuff isn't it!

[RangerDanger830]

Amazing stuff isn't it!

Heck yeah it is. Tums are nothing in comparison. I haven't had a single incident since I started taking it.

[cool7425]

Great progress and good to hear about your mood being in check. I was just curious since I'm getting ready to start my own 12 week Tren A cycle and wanted some warning about the sides. I'm not aggressive either on cycle (done about 3 cycles of dbol /deca /test), but I had heard that Tren came with more sides, so I was just wondering.

The one thing that does happen to me during PCT is that I get super emotional/depressed-like. I've had a few days in the past where I just felt like crying for no reason at all. Once I start to think about it I realize it's all hormonal -- though that doesn't really get rid of the feelings. Hopefully you won't go through anything like that during your PCT. I'll continue to follow your progress and will let you know how things work out on my own cycle.

[RangerDanger830]

The negative sides during and after PCT have only happened to me when I didn't do the cycle right. By right I mean right for me also with the doses I needed. Since I started HCG and got a good grasp on my AI and PCT doses I've never had so much as a hiccup coming off cycle, knock on wood. Then again, we will see how this Tren cycle goes.

[RangerDanger830]

So close to graduating! Almost done. After Monday I'll have some time off until a committee meets August 1st to see if I deserve a doctoral degree. Until then I'm a lot less busy. But I have no idea what else to log here until I discuss how my PCT goes. So if anyone has any questions, recommendations, or requests let me know.

[cool7425]

Congrats on your upcoming graduation! It's a big accomplishment. I hope you enjoy your "downtime" and have a chance to recover from years of hard work. Happy to hear how PCT goes for you. Would you feel ok posting some before and after pictures at this point? or, do you want to wait until after PCT?

I just started my own tren cycle on Monday and everything feels normal up to this point. I've had 2 shots up to this point. BP is normal. I have a little heartburn, but it could just be because of all the food I'm downing. I'm stocked up on Prevacid, as you suggested.

[RangerDanger830]

I would rather wait til after PCT. Also, I hate to say this but the pictures will be in different rooms with the light as similar as I can get it. I recently moved to another town nearby since I am done with school pending a graduation ceremony and one more board review which should go smoothly.

I did buy some BF calipers, although they aren't exact it is just easier since the nearest bod pod is now 90mins away. I will try to use them, never used them before, once they get here in the mail. When I do get the pictures taken I will send them to you via PM.

[cool7425]

Thanks bro! Much appreciated. Day 5 of the tren cycle for me (3 shots) and still don't feel don't feel any effects, other than being more "mucousy".

[Buster Brown]

Very nice log. I agree that recomps sound good but in the end I think you end up with very little to show after pct. Wise to pick a bulk or cut and go with it. Keep up the good work.

[RangerDanger830]

Very nice log. I agree that recomps sound good but in the end I think you end up with very little to show after pct. Wise to pick a bulk or cut and go with it. Keep up the good work.

Thanks and you're either right or we're just both doing it wrong. I'm going to bet on the first one.

I've never heard of increased congestion on Tren . A lot of AAS are known to suppress immune systems some so maybe that's going on in conjunction with seasonal allergies. Oh how I do not miss botany.

Thanks for the support, I haven't been on lately because I've been traveling, I'm down in GA now. I'll be back in NC tomorrow and will try to get on more thereafter. So far I'm not very impressed with the results of this cycle. I feel like a lot of Tren's anabolic capacity was wasted due to my recomp attempt. I get these same results from regular old test cycles nearly.

I am contemplating going natural indefinitely, I have a future with family to worry about.

[RangerDanger830]

Nothing incredibly amazing to report. Nearing the end of my cycle and while I may not be ecstatic with the results in the mirror, I am not disappointed either. As far as my strength goes however, I am extremely happy. I did chest yesterday and managed 3 sets of 6 reps of 365lbs on the incline barbell bench press. That is the most I have ever attempted. I am confident my max is just over 400lbs but do not care to worry about maxes too much.

I am considering starting come Clen during PCT, or just after, still debating. I'll have to get some more Keto as I am out anyway so no rush. I did start stacking some arginine pills with my cycle in place of cialis and while they do not work quite as good, it is still a viable option as long as you are taking enough. I have to take 5g a day for my body weight.

By the way, ran out of prevacid and had some other OTC acid reflux pills lying around so I have tried them for the last week. They work a little but not nearly as good as Prevacid. The active ingredient is Famotidine so try to stear clear of that unless you have to. I took the max dose recommended and was still dealing with regular reflux, just not as severe.

[RangerDanger830]

Sorry gents, I haven't forgotten about this just yet. For those asking about pictures, I would like to wait until after PCT if complete so I haven't taken any yet. As far as my stats, haven't measured my BF in the last week but last I checks I was down 2.5%, give or take as my first reading was in a bod pod pre-cycle and this one was with calipers. I am still happy nonetheless.

As far as how I feel, ehh, I feel like I have been cycling compounds for so long I have almost forgotten what being off cycle feels like. I went straight from some CJC/GHRP2 to some Clen then straight into this cycle. I feel good though, libido is starting to wear my woman down to the point that she is praying for the compounds to leave my system. We are doing it 3ish times a day and I still want more. I can't blame her for complaining. That just goes to show some of you guys that not a lot of Test is needed with Tren . I will say that I frontloaded the Tren and Test equally and the Tren overpowered the Test in the first few weeks. My libido was pretty low. If I do cycle again I will do the test just one week in advance.

So I feel good in the gym, motivated, heart rate isn't too high. RHR has maxed at 87 since I have been measuring the last few weeks. Sweating is still an issue, but then again I am a sweater anyway. Acid reflux is handled thanks to OTC meds.

I have been getting one negative side effect that I get with all 19nors after the 9th week and a few weeks after I am off and that is acne. It isn't serious, not teenager bad, but there are 3 pimples on my chest, and maybe 6 others scattered across my shoulders, back, and upper arms. Nothing too serious but for someone who is worried about aesthetics like I am it bothers me. It always goes away fairly quickly. I took a massive, over the top, unnecessarily stupid cycle of Deca one time and it did not go away quickly and it was a ton of acne. So I would say if anyone gets it severely then your dose was too high for you, or you just have shitty skin.

I am much more defined than when I started, I would say it did a good job cutting me up. I just think that when taking Tren and trying to cut some BF it is best to hit up a fairly large deficit in calories. I would feel comfortable going 500 under and still not expect to lose much muscle at all.

I will probably not update any time soon. I will wait and update mid PCT and then after PCT, unless something crazy happens that I do not see coming.

I would like to add that I do believe I have a very high tolerance to letro. I know my source is legit because my gym buddy just crashed his estrogen using letro from the same source. I trust his word as he has always been honest with me about his sides, and we went to war together. After getting that BW done I noticed my estrogen was still a little on the high end and I was taking quite a bit of letro. So I took a dose of 2.5mg of letro ED for a week and got BW done again and it was still in the high end of the normal range. Just food for thought, I am open to suggestions. I even tried shaking my letro up even though I am pretty sure you don't need to do that with liquid letro. I knew something was up because I have crashed my estrogen before and I can feel when it is getting low and I never felt that at all as of yet.

[RangerDanger830]

Quick update:

Currently on PCT and have had no issues at all, nearly. Libido has not dropped one bit, strength and stamina are just fine, and the sweating and reflux has subsided. My RHR has gone down to much lower and safer levels as well as my BP.

The bad side effect is the acne. It always happens to me with 19nors. Nothing crazy bad like a teenager though and all on my chest and back, none of my face luckily. It isn't enough to be self conscious about with a shirt off though. A week into my PCT it was already going away and almost completely gone now.

The gyno never got worse but it never went away either. It is a little puffy, not embarrassingly puffy, but it bothers me. My woman says she can't even tell. Once my PCT ends I am going to pick up with some Ralox and from my previous experience with gyno that should clear it right up since this isn't nearly as bad as my other time I got it. I still believe I have a tolerance for SERMs and AIs. The proof is in the pudding when I get bloodwork done.

I haven't done up the final tally yet but I think all in all, just guessing here based on the mirror, I have gained about 5lbs total but gone down 3% BF. I am pretty happy with those results. It wasn't my most successful cycle ever but then again it was my first attempt at recomp and Tren E so I learned enough to better take advantage of a future Tren cycle if I so choose. I will update again after PCT.

I haven't forgotten about the pics for those of you asking. I am going to post two pictures from one month prior to the cycle and roughly two weeks after PCT has ended.

[derekkpapa1]

Glad everything seems to be going well been following along rooting for ya

[RangerDanger830]

Having done a few cycles, I've had a ton of excess pct products like Nolva lying around, some liquid and some tabs. Since I have so much more Nolva than Ralox I decided to go with the Nolva to see if it'll do.

I chose to take 20mg of Nolva a day the last few weeks of my cycle since gyno started to appear, I also upped my AI dose a little. It didn't get better but it didn't get worse.

After the cycle I upped the dose of Nolva to 40mg a day as per my pct plans, haven't touched my clomid dose though. The gyno wasn't getting much better so I decided to rely on my hunch that I had a tolerance of sorts to Nolva and upped my dose to 60mg a day. Since I've done that my nipples lost sensitivity completely in a few days and the puffiness has been cut in half.

I've always preferred Ralox and never tried Nolva before but at least I know the Nolva is a good plan B for gyno. I expect my next post to say it's gone.

Libido finally lowered today. It's hard to quantify it but the easiest way I try is to just say sex twice a day is enough to satisfy me. On cycle three times a day is my norm.