18 Years Old - First Cycle Log

**Deequarius** · 07-16-2014, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by tarmyg

Calling what you attached a research paper is quite the stretch, no offense.

i researched medical journals and that is what I found. I didn't preform the studies clearly, I just read through them and used them in my paper. The assignment was even called "research paper." Now if you disagree with my findings that is another story. But this is a research paper by definition. Period.

**Deequarius** · 07-16-2014, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by jesse4466

Agree.

And having received an A on this in the number one creative writing program in the nation, I respectfully disagree with you.

**Deequarius** · 07-16-2014, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

In regards to prescribing meds for ADHD or ADD it is also sad typically it only take one visit to a doctor/psychiatrist for them to made a determination and write a prescription. I was one of those kids who did have it but it was before it was really a consideration or diagnosed. I managed it for the most part but I HATE reading. I cant read a book to save my life. I get 1 or two sentences and I'm lost over and over. I was laid off work about 10 years ago and for fun (bored) I volunteered to do a double blind study for a new ADHD medication. It was a 6 month study and I had to take specific test 2x a week, to see how/if the medication effected me. I had not illusions I was taking anything more than a sugar pill and I was right. After the study they gave me the real deal (dont remember the name) but DAMN it was more like crack. Typically I can drink one or two cups of coffee and it knocks me out, not this stuff. They agreed it was to strong though. Now I'm on vyvance. I have not tried riddlen. I like the vyvance. It does what I need/want it to do.

oh nice man. You must have good insurance. Vyvanse isn't covered by my insurance. It'd cost me about $600 a month for that pill.

**tarmyg** · 07-16-2014, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Deequarius

i researched medical journals and that is what I found. I didn't preform the studies clearly, I just read through them and used them in my paper. The assignment was even called "research paper." Now if you disagree with my findings that is another story. But this is a research paper by definition. Period.

You could possibly get away with calling it a review paper but nothing else.

Thanks
~T

**jesse4466** · 07-16-2014, 10:16 AM

I think the main thing here is the fact that your 18. I remember when I was 18 my high school football coach described my physique as a Greek-like sculpture, all natural. I took nothing besides protein, water and great diet. No offense, but it's pretty pathetic hearing stories of teenagers using steroids . Those are the ones with the crazy side effects you hear about, killing themselves, etc etc. Sorry for the harsh reality but that's just what it is.

**Deequarius** · 07-16-2014, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by tarmyg

You could possibly get away with calling it a review paper but nothing else. Thanks ~T

"A research paper is the culmination and final product of an involved process of research, critical thinking, source evaluation, organization, and composition." - Every single dictionary website on the internet know to man.
You are wrong.

**Deequarius** · 07-16-2014, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by jesse4466

I think the main thing here is the fact that your 18. I remember when I was 18 my high school football coach described my physique as a Greek-like sculpture, all natural. I took nothing besides protein, water and great diet. No offense, but it's pretty pathetic hearing stories of teenagers using steroids. Those are the ones with the crazy side effects you hear about, killing themselves, etc etc. Sorry for the harsh reality but that's just what it is.

so your "harsh reality" for me is that you look like a Greek god in high school and I am "pathetic" and likely to kill myself? Lol. I'm using bunk gear bro. My testosterone levels are barely above normal. My 211 pounds at 8.6% BF is more-or-less a product of natty hard work. Were you that big in high school? I doubt it.

**jesse4466** · 07-16-2014, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Deequarius

so your "harsh reality" for me is that you look like a Greek god in high school and I am "pathetic" and likely to kill myself? Lol. I'm using bunk gear bro. My testosterone levels are barely above normal. My 211 pounds at 8.6% BF is more-or-less a product of natty hard work. Were you that big in high school? I doubt it.

The harsh reality is that teenagers shouldn't use steroids . Was it that difficult to comprehend? You appear to be backing that up by claiming your 'natural' stats- hence why you don't need steroids .

Are we getting anywhere, Deequarius? (if that is your real name)

**tarmyg** · 07-16-2014, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Deequarius

"A research paper is the culmination and final product of an involved process of research, critical thinking, source evaluation, organization, and composition." - Every single dictionary website on the internet know to man.
You are wrong.

Ok..

**Deequarius** · 07-17-2014, 02:39 AM

going back on it now lol

**kapper** · 07-17-2014, 03:27 AM

Good to see ur getting off ur cycle.. Smart move and honestly stay off for a few years bro! Get bloodwork 6 weeks after completion of PCT, hope all works out for u!! Remember alot of the blokes here have had ur health and future at best interests!! Also ur 18 and high on life so dont get to far ahead of urself

ur obstacles are only just beginning

hope ur PCT works in your favour

**jesse4466** · 07-17-2014, 07:09 AM

I wish you the best of luck moving forward and good health for you're future. Remember, this is about your own health. You have a lot of life to live- live it well. The truth may hurt but it can also protect you from mistakes. Take care.

**kapper** · 08-05-2014, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by Deequarius

Lastly, I would like to do this log which I know will put me under-fire from a lot of people who believe what I am doing is wrong at my age as something that someone my own age can look at and actually see what could happen if you cycle at my age. Whether the results be ridiculous gains or be huge gyno bitch-tits, infertility and the inability to locate my own testicles, being on TRT for the rest of my natural life and reverting back 10 pounds from where I started... you guys all will be the first to know. I will be logging my progress and commenting/answering questions that others may have or maybe getting answers to questions that I may have. The journey has begun. Let's see where it takes us.

Pretty disappointing that you make a statement like this then dont back it up, from memory you should be a few days into your PCT by now yet you havent updated at all, you havnt added your clen to this log.. You came here talking the talk against all advice.. For what?? For you to disappear once you found out your gear was bunk..... You say you want respect at work yet your not a man of your word!!!!

**Mezz** · 10-12-2014, 02:16 PM

Did you post any progress pics or did I miss them?

**jesse4466** · 10-12-2014, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Mezz

Did you post any progress pics or did I miss them?

This kid was a fraud. He lied about everything then claimed he couldn't be online anymore because of school, then disappeared in shame and humiliation.

**SwollenToTheMax** · 01-08-2015, 11:39 AM

First off I would like to state I've been on this site for a while, but took a few years off of here so forgot my username, so this is my new account.

I know it's a little late since you have already started your cycle, but I came on here at 18 and didn't listen to other members with years of experience. I wish I took there advice, now I'm 27 and test levels have been completely depleted, so basically I'm on replacement therapy for life. I did everything correctly and thought I would be fine but no I wasn't. Not to say I still don't cycle but just wish I listened.

Anyways not trying to lecture you just letting you know what happened to me.

**Nolvadexbrah** · 02-13-2015, 09:30 AM

nvm..

**qscgugcsq** · 02-13-2015, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Nolvadexbrah

nvm..

dont believe it if you want to but thats what will happen to you.

and if at least you knew how to train and eat you would at least gain a bit of muscle.

but you dont, so you are risking your health for no gain. Real smart...

he his not alone, It also happenned to me Im on TRT for the rest of my life.

and many other young man suffered from ED, loss of muscle mass , getting fat and more...

having low test is not fun...

Damn I was losing my erection while I was in my GF... at 20 this is highly embarassing and you should expect it to happen to you too...