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04-14-2016, 03:28 AM #121
Last time i will adress this. You have been blasting, and crusing 19nors and you have started another 19nor blast. You said you would do bloods before that last blast and tell us abouth your hct, cholestrol, e2, prolactin and BP stats.
Im not trying to babysit you and trust me, whatever choice you do is fine with me, but i think it would be real interesting to see those values.
If i missed it, forgive me...im just a northman with snow in my eyes
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04-14-2016, 09:31 AM #122
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04-14-2016, 03:12 PM #123
Im lost with all the edits akog, but yea i already know what your saying, theres things i should have done and changed earlier. Its something ive learned and can use it to advise others in the future
BIB, my local exchage used to do a steroid evening where they would do bloods, test liver etc etc, i remember seeing posters years ago when getting needles.
I rang them a few weeks ago and they closed due to lack if government funding/cost cutting :/
Im still looking about but i may have to just ride the next couple of months out and see whats what.
My doc wont do bloods until i come off to finish this "on going investigation" that i made up to get bloods the last time, saying i had ED from steroid use when there was nothing wrong with me, she asked me if im on and i said yes, i finish in 8 weeks, she said she will do bloods then but not now. I mentioned health risks etc but she didnt pay much attention to it, just said come back when ive discontinued steroid use so she can see whats going on when im normal.
To get everything i need, privatley is hitting £500 mark, i of course believe that no money should come inbetween health but its too much to shift out my pocket at the min, especialy starting my business
HmmLast edited by TheTaxMan; 04-14-2016 at 03:14 PM.
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04-14-2016, 05:03 PM #124Originally Posted by AllKindsOGains
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04-14-2016, 05:15 PM #125
Hey man, I'm glad you are handling the situation as best you can, I know finances can be tight, but def get your health as a first priority.
I edited my posts because although I still believe that what I had said is a valid point, I reacted to a vets comment in an immature way, and I don't need to be bashing a member of the forum. You have all the advice information and support you can get from this forum and it's members, and we care about you and your health too dude. Let us know how it goes.
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04-14-2016, 05:39 PM #126Anabolic Member
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Did I say it before - self bleeding?
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04-14-2016, 08:31 PM #127
U got more excuses than a niggah going to jail man.....:-)
Ok, man, this is free and important. Check your restpulse then " Just before you go to sleep in bed, feel the pulse with a fingertip at your wrist. Count the bits for 30 sekunds. Then multiply by 2. If you are below 70, i have red reports telling in 70-80% of the cases your cardivaskucar system migth be ok. If 80+, especially if its 80+ when you wake up also, something may be wrong.
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04-15-2016, 01:10 AM #128
@akog yea your point is valid, its just something thats been said a few times and something i already knew.
@insane fvck self bleeding i couldnt do that sh1t
@sil 76bpm (im at work, but have been chilling for 10 mins)
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04-15-2016, 01:56 AM #129
This is me this morning, water intake was a bit poor yesterday, feel a bit puffy
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04-15-2016, 02:30 AM #130Originally Posted by TheTaxMan
There's clear progress now. Kudos to you for making some big changes to your lifestyle. Keep going!!
How long left of this cycle?
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04-15-2016, 03:48 AM #131
Thanks krugerr
8 weeks of tren E left to do
10 weeks of test E left to do
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04-15-2016, 04:48 AM #132
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04-15-2016, 06:06 AM #133
Thanks MrF
I love the way im training at the moment, when my mind thinks i cant push one more i scream to myself UP and squeeze like 1-2 more out seems to be working well
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04-18-2016, 09:49 PM #134
I like the head veins =) I wanna see those in the arms and shoulders now
Keep on it brotha!!
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04-19-2016, 02:51 AM #135
You need to go directly to a lab, otherwise if you go to a clinic they will charge you alot, clinics subcontract labs.
Of course, that you need to know what you are doing, if you go to a lab you need to be confident and name the tests you want done privately, if you look hesitant and dont know what tests you want they may tell you to go to a doctor.
I can get LH, FSH, total T and free T for 60€. ALT and AST is like 10€ more.
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04-19-2016, 02:55 AM #136
Quick google: Medi-Labs :: Private Blood Testing and Health Screening by MediChecks.com
49£ -> http://www.medi-labs.com/tests/Liver-Check
119£ -> http://www.medi-labs.com/tests/Andropause-Profile
C'mon Tax...Last edited by Mr.BB; 04-19-2016 at 05:40 AM.
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04-20-2016, 12:52 AM #137
Thanks for that BB, thats more than affordable for me
Are those the only 2 tests i need?
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04-20-2016, 12:56 AM #138
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04-20-2016, 04:09 AM #139
On cycle you dont need the andropause Profile, unless you want to check your testosterone level (to check is gear is good), even then better just to do testosterone alone as LH and FSH will be nill.
Liver panel, complete blood count and Cholesterol check are the tests you should do on cycle, you can add Oestradiol if you want to manage estrogen. I would call them to see if they have a Oestradiol better suited for men (sensitive assay oestradiol)
Bare in mind I found this through a basic google search, did not shop for it at all. There might be local labs that have even better price options. Pretty sure a local lab will not refuse your business if you ask for private blood checks, of course you have to name the tests you want.
The problem is when you go to clinics which always subcontract the lab with a hefty margin and also will charge the doctor consult to name the tests and check the results.
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04-24-2016, 11:13 AM #140
Hey guys
Im finding it hard to control my water retention on 750mg test, even with a clean diet and high water intake, im on 0.5mg arimidex eod as well.
Last time i did tren the test was matched with the tren dose, well not exactly it was 250mg test 200mg tren
Now is 750mg test 300mg tren, and im bloating off the high test
Can i lower it down to 500mg? Will it hinder my cycle? Loss of strength etc?
I could even lower the test right down to 250mg and increase the tren to 350mg to compensate on any potential loss in strength?
Im worried altering doses now can just mess my levels too much, but im not liking the water retention, its smoothing me off and im on holiday in 8 weeks so want to do something about it now, i could of course end the cycle but thats not happening.
My arms are lean and vascular
But im noticing my cheeks bloating and my abdomen smoothing off, i know for sure its not fat, its almost like the high test enth has creeped up, bare in mind im at like what week 6 now. Perfect time for when these enth esters will be taking their course. I think lowering the test is the best option but to what dose and will i expect to lose strength? Im enjoying how strong im getting so that would be a shame to experience
Thanks for your helpLast edited by TheTaxMan; 04-24-2016 at 11:25 AM.
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04-24-2016, 01:35 PM #141Anabolic Member
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Well, good to see youre progressing, 750mg test a week is alot however, from my own experience, I upped 5kg (~10lb) in 1 day of carbing up, and that is a water bloat, my face, cheeks, abs, thighs and back swolen and Im gonna loose this all water weight in next 2-3 days or less with my diet and cardio only, Ima gonna p!ss you off big time saying this again - watch your carb intake , thats maybe whats causing it or plays big part in the equation, I feel would be worth just try, keep your protein intake not too-high but carb down (20-40g carbs a day with cardio on top)for few days and watch whats happening with your body... what do you think?
Keep us updated, good stuff man
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04-24-2016, 02:37 PM #142
I forgot to mention ive had a pretty stressful couple of weeks as well as some poor sleep, i wonder if that has any impact on bloat/water retention.
Hopefuly others will chime in and i can make a decision on what to do, cut carbs a little more, or lower test or both
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04-24-2016, 02:42 PM #143
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04-25-2016, 02:17 AM #144
Heres a few pics in my usual spot this morning to keep the same lighting etc
Am i over reacting about the bloat? I also read that lack of sleep and stress can generate water retention.
Should i monitor the next week and see how i feel or do i take action now and lower the test down? And/or lower carb intake?
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04-25-2016, 02:41 AM #145Anabolic Member
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good progress man, maybe its just growth in general and youre overthinking...?
high doses of test may cause bloat, chronic bad quality sleep and stress and carbs can play role too... Im interested to hear opinions what should you do/what can cause it, but I would cut and try one thing at a time first if it was me. Do you feel your feet/palms swollen when you flex them etc or face puffy?
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04-25-2016, 05:05 AM #146
Cheers buddy
Cheekys slightly puffy, i wouldnt say it was bad, just annoying when trying to lean in, hands and feet are good
Noticing some light cramping in calves if i point toes in to the floor.
Should have more sleep and less stress this week, so maybe could just monitor it
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04-27-2016, 06:33 AM #147Anabolic Member
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How's the sleep quality:stress ratio going for you last few days? feel any better bro?
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04-27-2016, 02:40 PM #148
Overall stress has improved but my son is cutting his back teeth so has had wrestless nights :/ he seems much better today though so hopefuly improvement in terms of sleep for the rest of the week
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05-02-2016, 05:20 PM #149Anabolic Member
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how is it going big guy? All well?
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05-05-2016, 01:04 AM #150
All good, im getting better sleep now and stress is lower than normal
I do find the only side effect im getting off tren is increased agitation and aggression, but i am working 45 hours a week as well as still in the early stages of setting up my own business in the evenings and weekends so that doesnt help the temper. Had i not been setting up a business i think the short temperness and aggression would be a lot more manageable. I mean it is manageable but i can turn nasty pretty quickly when things arent going my way.
No night sweats or anything else to report.
Weight is the lowest its been in months, im 189lbs now, athough i look and feel better for it, im gutted im no where near 200lbs lol it was a nice feeling being 200lbs but i do much prefer a leaner look, i still feel big in clothing etc and have a presence so im happy.
Here i am on a 2nd rest day, so photo has 0 pump.
I have just over 6 weeks left of this cycle (4.5 weeks of tren and 6.5 weeks of test)
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05-05-2016, 09:27 AM #151
Looking good!!!!! Really good!
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05-05-2016, 05:05 PM #152
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05-06-2016, 09:38 AM #153
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05-12-2016, 07:31 PM #154Anabolic Member
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What is up man? Time for an update...I guess? Just curious, and I bet everyone else are too
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05-13-2016, 02:44 AM #155
Hey IM
Not sure if there is much to report
Weight is the same as last update, around 189lbs
Aggression has calmed down a lot
Feel strong as a bull
No night sweats or anything
I feel great, thinking of cutting a small amount of carbs per day just to help with a little more cutting over the final 5 weeks
I have just took these photos this second after a meal and guzzlig lots of water so stomache is pushing a bit, probably should have had a sh1t then took some pics but hey ho
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05-16-2016, 06:36 AM #156
Looking good Tax! Those abs are chiseling in buddy!
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06-15-2016, 02:22 PM #157Anabolic Member
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Ok Tax, its time for you to say hello, how youve been doing all along? Hows family, hows health man?
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06-16-2016, 10:07 AM #158
Hey!
Sorry had no time recently, havent been on here for atleast a month
I left my job and launched into my business full time, and its took a lot of time and energy.
Ive finished my cycle, weight is 186lbs
Ive lost a good few lbs (roughly 9lbs) on this cycle but i look the same size but leaner and im getting more vascular, particular in the forearms and biceps
I head off on my holiday on saturday for 2 weeks so will have plenty of time to chip back into the forum, and i will also upload a pic at some point
Hope everyone is well!
Steve
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06-16-2016, 10:19 AM #159Anabolic Member
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06-20-2016, 04:14 AM #160
Heres some pics, overall im happy with the results
I could have done better, but couldnt we all? i have learnt a lot of where ive gone wrong and how to improve next time so thats what counts in the end
I would like a thicker chest and my calves need some work
In future i want to lean in more but i also want 14lbs of muscle put on
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