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    Pfizer how and where? Suggestions....?

    I have some experience with growth in the past. Some good some bad products. As Iím aware itís one of the most faked products on the market. Is pfizer growth as good as I read about? Any suggestions how to obtain or something similar in quality? Thank you much any input is greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime1396 View Post
    I have some experience with growth in the past. Some good some bad products. As I’m aware it’s one of the most faked products on the market. Is pfizer growth as good as I read about? Any suggestions how to obtain or something similar in quality? Thank you much any input is greatly appreciated.
    There has been a sect of individuals herr pushing pharna only and calling all chinese hgh shit but I have personally watched the progress of men I know on certain chinese hgh with stellar day by day results. Times are changing and phizer is of couse the gold standard but there are a couple of chinese labs just as good. The price is about half. Its still expensive and the ugls dint make much profit off it but it does exist.

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    There is more than just Pfizer for Pharma options ; Eli Lilly, Norvo, Genetech etc.

    My gripe on generic HGH is from a probability standpoint. Consider these potential outcomes

    (1) You buy Generic HGH at half price and its accurately dosed, saving yourself tons of $$$$
    (2) Generic HGH is faked, you lose your money, second time around you buy Generic and you get outcome #1. You've now spent the same as Pharma assuming Generic = 1/2 Pharma Price
    (3) Generic HGH is underdosed, you buy twice as much to get to the right dose, spending as much as Pharma.
    (4) Generic HGH is faked, you lose your money, and buy Pharma the second time around. Now you've spent 50% more versus what you would have spent choosing Pharma from the beginning.

    Granted, I am slightly bias because I have a script for GH but I feel that outcome #1 is the minority and outcomes 2,3, and 4 are the majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    There is more than just Pfizer for Pharma options ; Eli Lilly, Norvo, Genetech etc.

    My gripe on generic HGH is from a probability standpoint. Consider these potential outcomes

    (1) You buy Generic HGH at half price and its accurately dosed, saving yourself tons of $$$$
    (2) Generic HGH is faked, you lose your money, second time around you buy Generic and you get outcome #1. You've now spent the same as Pharma assuming Generic = 1/2 Pharma Price
    (3) Generic HGH is underdosed, you buy twice as much to get to the right dose, spending as much as Pharma.
    (4) Generic HGH is faked, you lose your money, and buy Pharma the second time around. Now you've spent 50% more versus what you would have spent choosing Pharma from the beginning.

    Granted, I am slightly bias because I have a script for GH but I feel that outcome #1 is the minority and outcomes 2,3, and 4 are the majority.
    Quality ugls will reship free if bloodwork numbers are poor. They dont make much on markup wise, so believe me the ones that stand behind their products wont be re selling shit product.

    It is not whether it is chinese or not that makes it bad. It is the seller. Ugls now have to compete.
    Its not like 10 years ago. They produce and sell quality at an affordable price or they quickly disappear.

    The all chinese is shit argument I believed for many years from people trashing ugl gear, who preached pharma only.

    They were hypocrites who ran a whole lot of compounds that never existed except via ugl.

    Pharma grade is great.
    Not all chinese is shit.
    There are great ugls in this wonderful world.

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    You guys are the best

    Quote Originally Posted by Ora View Post
    Quality ugls will reship free if bloodwork numbers are poor. They dont make much on markup wise, so believe me the ones that stand behind their products wont be re selling shit product.

    It is not whether it is chinese or not that makes it bad. It is the seller. Ugls now have to compete.
    Its not like 10 years ago. They produce and sell quality at an affordable price or they quickly disappear.

    The all chinese is shit argument I believed for many years from people trashing ugl gear, who preached pharma only.

    They were hypocrites who ran a whole lot of compounds that never existed except via ugl.

    Pharma grade is great.
    Not all chinese is shit.
    There are great ugls in this wonderful world.
    Thanks very much. Iím sure there are other good brands out there. Iím just concerned about dishing out good money and getting shit. I have no
    Problem paying for something as long as the quality is there. Can you recommend who I can go through thatís safe and quality. Thank you guys

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    I used to go through sciroxx. But as I’m sure you’re aware he’s no longer operational lol. Unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime1396 View Post
    Thanks very much. I’m sure there are other good brands out there. I’m just concerned about dishing out good money and getting shit. I have no
    Problem paying for something as long as the quality is there. Can you recommend who I can go through that’s safe and quality. Thank you guys
    Search for a place that has their feet held to the fire by a board. I cant go naming places because we need new blood here but there are good places out there.

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    This year alone I have recieved 2k in great free gear from ugl's that compete for business and only want to demonstrate how great their products are.
    There are a lot of progress logs ran for ugls and all they ask is that the recipient of the free gear keep a log of their product and accompany it with bloodwork to prove the numbers.

    I cant even afford good chinese hgh.
    I saw a chinese hgh log where a guy took a picture in the exact same position like 100 times and you could literally watch the fat melt off frame by frame.
    It was cool as shit. Had to have taken a lot of patience but he went from zero abs to cut as fuck in single digit bf.

    Believe it or not though, building a good solid honest reputation on boards has huge advantages. Once you build a good circle of honest guys you know whos good and whos not. Its important to stay current because ugls are born and die every day.
    This is another reason why aas forums are a tight community.

    Many of us talk daily for years and we all have each others backs. There are gym bros and bro lifters but then there are actual iron brothers. As long as there is gravity on this planet we will be shooting, lifting, and helping each other out.

    Stick around and stay active. Anything worth having takes time.

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    You seem cool as fuck. Unfortunately I’m not hip to the forum lingo. Lol. When you say held to the fire by a board I’m completely clueless. As far as building a reputation for myself I completely understand that. Any advice you can give me to earn some credibility? Maybe pictures of me and my chick training? To prove I am who I say? As well as completing my bio a little more thoroughly? Thanks man. Much appreciation. I’m just a blue collar Union tradesmen from Chicago. Not looking to hurt anyone or put anyone in any threatening situations. You seem like you know your shit which I respect. I can always go through someone else from the gym. But majority of the time it’s not as quality as things I’ve had in the past. I have no issues paying for good quality but I also want to get what I’m paying for. And don’t want to give my girl something that’s not what it claims to be. I can take pictures of some local things I’ve been getting or even tell you the brand. You might know more about them and if their of good quality. I’m also the type that’s kinda quiet. And I’d rather just acquire things for myself and on my own. I was going through a ugl internationally for years. They were great. “Carl” if that rings a bell. In the beginning I was scared. So I went and talked to a lawyer. He said there’s plenty of gym rats like yourself. As long as you’re not manufacturing or distributing it’s a mistameanor. So I’m not one to get things for others. I’ll give a trustworthy person a contact. But then they’re on their own. Just looking to get for me and the girl. But I know what you mean. Gh puts me on that other level. I eat relatively clean, but I’m not a hardcore diet guy. Some of the jobs I work on sometimes don’t even have running water. So it’s tough. But with good quality gh yes it’s like the fat literally just dissipates out of no where. Thanks again man for any insight you can provide. I appreciate the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime1396 View Post
    You seem cool as fuck. Unfortunately I’m not hip to the forum lingo. Lol. When you say held to the fire by a board I’m completely clueless. As far as building a reputation for myself I completely understand that. Any advice you can give me to earn some credibility? Maybe pictures of me and my chick training? To prove I am who I say? As well as completing my bio a little more thoroughly? Thanks man. Much appreciation. I’m just a blue collar Union tradesmen from Chicago. Not looking to hurt anyone or put anyone in any threatening situations. You seem like you know your shit which I respect. I can always go through someone else from the gym. But majority of the time it’s not as quality as things I’ve had in the past. I have no issues paying for good quality but I also want to get what I’m paying for. And don’t want to give my girl something that’s not what it claims to be. I can take pictures of some local things I’ve been getting or even tell you the brand. You might know more about them and if their of good quality. I’m also the type that’s kinda quiet. And I’d rather just acquire things for myself and on my own. I was going through a ugl internationally for years. They were great. “Carl” if that rings a bell. In the beginning I was scared. So I went and talked to a lawyer. He said there’s plenty of gym rats like yourself. As long as you’re not manufacturing or distributing it’s a mistameanor. So I’m not one to get things for others. I’ll give a trustworthy person a contact. But then they’re on their own. Just looking to get for me and the girl. But I know what you mean. Gh puts me on that other level. I eat relatively clean, but I’m not a hardcore diet guy. Some of the jobs I work on sometimes don’t even have running water. So it’s tough. But with good quality gh yes it’s like the fat literally just dissipates out of no where. Thanks again man for any insight you can provide. I appreciate the help.
    Just hang out a bit and post up and I will pm you a good place but you gotta promise not to abandon this board. This place is the oldest AAS board online and though it has never been a source board it has spawned other boards.

    Guys keep using this board as a stepping stone and never coming back. We are trying to make it what it was. It used to have the most members of any board. Guys are leaving it behind because once they get their gear they dont care about the brotherhood.
    I am not trying to be a kaiser but I will help you out if you give it a little time.

    This is only a temporary profile I been here 11-12 years. Just waiting on admin to clear my old account after some buttheads forgpt what this board was intended to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime1396 View Post
    Thanks very much. I’m sure there are other good brands out there. I’m just concerned about dishing out good money and getting shit. I have no
    Problem paying for something as long as the quality is there. Can you recommend who I can go through that’s safe and quality. Thank you guys
    Attachment 174232

    This is what I mean.
    Its not all shit and withbloods many not only guarantee, they give you credit for bloods
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime1396 View Post
    Thanks very much. I’m sure there are other good brands out there. I’m just concerned about dishing out good money and getting shit. I have no
    Problem paying for something as long as the quality is there. Can you recommend who I can go through that’s safe and quality. Thank you guys
    If money is no obstacle then you can skip some of the headache and go straight to Pharma HGH - it really depends how high the ceiling is on your budget. However, Pharma grade is faked just like generic HGH too though so it's not a free ride either. A couple of hours poking around on google is not enough of a time investment to be educated in my opinion.

    What exactly is your budget roughly? That is going to really determine what options you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    If money is no obstacle then you can skip some of the headache and go straight to Pharma HGH - it really depends how high the ceiling is on your budget. However, Pharma grade is faked just like generic HGH too though so it's not a free ride either. A couple of hours poking around on google is not enough of a time investment to be educated in my opinion.

    What exactly is your budget roughly? That is going to really determine what options you have.
    Iím ok with spending up to 250-300$ a kit if itís legit. Iím in Chicago. So the winter months Iím not as concerned about. So Iíd like to get on from May to August. Wanted to get my girl on 2iu a day also. I just donít have the actual connection to place an order through. As far as loyalty goes Iím not going anywhere. This is the first forum Iíve ever joined and Iím not looking to hop around. Although I might not have the time to be on here everyday Iíd prefer to stick around and develop relationships with good people here. I work 6-7 days a week pretty much year round. I think itís great to have a place like this where I can refer to. Everything I know is all self obtained knowledge. Thereís a lot of opinions out there. But this is the place I prefer to come to for advice.

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    Obs thanks man I appreciate it. I’m not going nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime1396 View Post
    I’m ok with spending up to 250-300$ a kit if it’s legit. I’m in Chicago. So the winter months I’m not as concerned about. So I’d like to get on from May to August. Wanted to get my girl on 2iu a day also. I just don’t have the actual connection to place an order through. As far as loyalty goes I’m not going anywhere. This is the first forum I’ve ever joined and I’m not looking to hop around. Although I might not have the time to be on here everyday I’d prefer to stick around and develop relationships with good people here. I work 6-7 days a week pretty much year round. I think it’s great to have a place like this where I can refer to. Everything I know is all self obtained knowledge. There’s a lot of opinions out there. But this is the place I prefer to come to for advice.
    Do you mean you want to run HGH from May to August? If so, 4 months is going to accomplish very little. It needs to be run for 6+ months.

    I meant what you can afford to spend every month on HGH - kits come in a variety of configurations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Do you mean you want to run HGH from May to August? If so, 4 months is going to accomplish very little. It needs to be run for 6+ months.

    I meant what you can afford to spend every month on HGH - kits come in a variety of configurations.
    I meant Iím cool with spending 250-300$ a month. 250-300$ a kit if itís good. I see the pic obs posted. Those are great prices for legit gh. I understand 6 months is probably better. Iím willing to get on it all year if itís available. My experience with gh is the gains never really seem to stay. But like obs also talked about the guy posting 100 pictures and you could see the fat melt off like butter are the same experiences Iíve had. Within a week I can see the little bit of fat I do have just start to melt as if someone stuck a hose up my ass and gave me lipo lol. So Iím more looking for the summer months. But like I said not opposed to year round useage. I also have great health insurance. Iíve tried going through drs before and getting it prescribed but they always shut me down. Fuckers! Lol. Be also never taken it daily. When I was taking it I would do 2iu in the morning and 2iu right before bed 5 days a week. Iíd take it on training days only. So I could imagine if I did take it 7 days a week how much better it would work.

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    Your budget is not enough to be able to afford HGH for you and your GF.

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    Op, you can run 4 iu and your wife 2iu for.... Indrfinitely at $300 but it will be chinese hgh

    30 days x6 iu = 180iu
    $300 is about the going rate for that amount of quality hgh from China.

    The amount of results you see will depend on duration and you as an individual. This is fact.

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    I’m sorry guys. I should’ve been more specific. I’m willing to spend 250-300$ a month for my own supply. I understand I should’ve been more specific. I figured my girl would run separately. So I would get her her own kit and have her start at 5 days a week. Then branch into 7. So what I meant to say is I’m willing to spend 250$-300$ a kit. If I had access I’d probably purchase 6 for myself right off the bat and two for my girl. So a total of 8 kits. At 250-300$ a kit I think is reasonable. Pharma or Chinese it don’t matter to me as long as it’s legit like the numbers obs posted. I’d prefer to use my health insurance and get some prescribed. Take advantage of my benefits since I never really use them. But like I stated earlier drs are dicks when it comes to that. I understand their protecting their self. But I’m not trying to supply the neighborhood. Lol. Just looking for myself. And it’s my body so what’s it to them. Is it really that big of a deal to say I have a hormone deficiency? And prescribe it to me. I wish this was easier than it is. Lol. I work hard I make a good living. Just want some good gh. Not trying to cost anyone their career. Or make any trouble for anyone. Wish drs were a little more willing and open to the situation

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    the problem with guys that say you should run PHARMA grade HGH ONLY , is that most of them are not even getting 'real' Pharma grade HGH either. UNLESS you obtain your HGH directly from the pharmacy , or from an Aids patient buddy of yours who got it from the pharmacy, then its not guaranteed to be Pharma and is likely faked.
    This is why as of the last couple years guys even at the upper levels of bodybuilding are having much better luck and saving bank using generics and Chinese grade HGH

    the only other option for Pharma grade HGH, which I've done myself years ago, was obtain a prescription from an anti aging clinic. but thats damn expensive. Even though I have access to HGH from the pharmacy I still revert to using generics myself (cause they work and are way less expensive)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Op, you can run 4 iu and your wife 2iu for.... Indrfinitely at $300 but it will be chinese hgh

    30 days x6 iu = 180iu
    $300 is about the going rate for that amount of quality hgh from China.

    The amount of results you see will depend on duration and you as an individual. This is fact.
    Using your picture as an example though 180IU = 2 Kits which would be $360.00 or are you using the discount for multiple kit purchase?

    I was also factoring in purchasing bacteriostatic water and shipping fees - are those included in the states?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Using your picture as an example though 180IU = 2 Kits which would be $360.00 or are you using the discount for multiple kit purchase?

    I was also factoring in purchasing bacteriostatic water and shipping fees - are those included in the states?
    That picture is not the gold standard pricing merely reasonable you get 200iu and are using 180 per month for 130-180 median price is about $300 per month.

    If he buys in bulk he can get cheaper.
    I posted that link to show how labs stand behind bloods of alleged "trash" hgh. Though even at the price in the picture you can run it for about 300 per month.

    Windex I notice in most of your posts you give dry condescending advice and seem to search for a resason to tell people why they are wrong or why what they want to do won't work.

    That mindset is being shoved off this board as we speak. Just a heads up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    That picture is not the gold standard pricing merely reasonable you get 200iu and are using 180 per month for 130-180 median price is about $300 per month.

    If he buys in bulk he can get cheaper.
    I posted that link to show how labs stand behind bloods of alleged "trash" hgh. Though even at the price in the picture you can run it for about 300 per month.

    Windex I notice in most of your posts you give dry condescending advice and seem to search for a resason to tell people why they are wrong or why what they want to do won't work.

    That mindset is being shoved off this board as we speak. Just a heads up.
    I am sorry you feel that way - I was trying to just understand the math. I did also acknowledge that I have bias towards pharma in my earlier post on the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I am sorry you feel that way - I was trying to just understand the math. I did also acknowledge that I have bias towards pharma in my earlier post on the thread.
    I said that more negative than I should have.
    We are trying to boost membership and it is working. We are all trying to be as positive as possible and lay out options for people without just shutting down their questions.

    I am not trying to tell people what they want to hear because that is dangerous. We just gotta give new members viable options with a smile. I want the op to stay and stay active amoung friends.

    He can run hgh with his wife as stated but it will be on the higher side of his budget.

    As well as advice I think we need to be giving incentive with kindness. You are a smart guy windex. Most of the smart guys here give straight analytical feedback without cheese. A guy like you, as smart as you, who gives flavorful advice with a spoon of sugar is something that will make this board shine like a diamond.

    I apologize for my coarseness before. I should have left that part out or to pm.

    Keep watching how many members are online as you log in. We are going to make that number go up^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I said that more negative than I should have.
    We are trying to boost membership and it is working. We are all trying to be as positive as possible and lay out options for people without just shutting down their questions.

    I am not trying to tell people what they want to hear because that is dangerous. We just gotta give new members viable options with a smile. I want the op to stay and stay active amoung friends.

    He can run hgh with his wife as stated but it will be on the higher side of his budget.

    As well as advice I think we need to be giving incentive with kindness. You are a smart guy windex. Most of the smart guys here give straight analytical feedback without cheese. A guy like you, as smart as you, who gives flavorful advice with a spoon of sugar is something that will make this board shine like a diamond.

    I apologize for my coarseness before. I should have left that part out or to pm.

    Keep watching how many members are online as you log in. We are going to make that number go up^
    Obs thanks for everything. Windex I appreciate your opinions too. Iím gonna keep posting. Hopefully once I earn some credibility someone will give me a link or a contact for a legit source. Iím cool with Chinese. As long as itís quality. Gonna try my dr again. But Iím sure Iíll get denied once again. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime1396 View Post
    Obs thanks for everything. Windex I appreciate your opinions too. I’m gonna keep posting. Hopefully once I earn some credibility someone will give me a link or a contact for a legit source. I’m cool with Chinese. As long as it’s quality. Gonna try my dr again. But I’m sure I’ll get denied once again. Lol
    Give it time. I will be around if you dont find someone

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    OP, I can tell you that 1.8iu of Serostim or Saizen puts my IGF-1 @ 407ng/mL on a range of 61-200ng/mL. If you choose the generic route, choose wisely. There are good generics available, but there are also many crap generics.
    Same thing with pharma GH. Do your research, there are fakes of pharma brands out there in addition to legit pharma. Don't rush into any purchases.

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    There is more than just Pfizer for Pharma options ; Eli Lilly, Norvo, Genetech etc.

    My gripe on generic HGH is from a probability standpoint. Consider these potential outcomes

    (1) You buy Generic HGH at half price and its accurately dosed, saving yourself tons of $$$$
    (2) Generic HGH is faked, you lose your money, second time around you buy Generic and you get outcome #1. You've now spent the same as Pharma assuming Generic = 1/2 Pharma Price
    (3) Generic HGH is underdosed, you buy twice as much to get to the right dose, spending as much as Pharma.
    (4) Generic HGH is faked, you lose your money, and buy Pharma the second time around. Now you've spent 50% more versus what you would have spent choosing Pharma from the beginning.

    Granted, I am slightly bias because I have a script for GH but I feel that outcome #1 is the minority and outcomes 2,3, and 4 are the majority.
    Not a bad point. Interesting way of looking at it.

    I'm not on growth at the moment but when I was using it I had generic black tops and I could feel it after a few days... Got super tired for the first few days which apparently is normal cause a few of my buddies had same experience on different hgh..So IME I got real hgh BUT I totally agree with your line of thinking in terms of ODDS...

    I honestly wouldn't know how big of a difference pharm grade hgh would make as I've never used it, but I sure would like to find out lol. Is your script for a pen or multi use vials?? And how much do you take cause apparently 2 iu's is plenty if it's pharm grade...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    Not a bad point. Interesting way of looking at it.

    I'm not on growth at the moment but when I was using it I had generic black tops and I could feel it after a few days... Got super tired for the first few days which apparently is normal cause a few of my buddies had same experience on different hgh..So IME I got real hgh BUT I totally agree with your line of thinking in terms of ODDS...

    I honestly wouldn't know how big of a difference pharm grade hgh would make as I've never used it, but I sure would like to find out lol. Is your script for a pen or multi use vials?? And how much do you take cause apparently 2 iu's is plenty if it's pharm grade...?
    I'm on 3IU of Nutropin Pen. It was very slightly more dollars than Humatrope vial but less of a headache. Saizen as a cartridge was option #3 but was the most expensive by a large margin.

    I pay out of pocket right now for everything - you don't want to know my monthly expenses between GH and TRT lol, unless you want to buy my kidney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I'm on 3IU of Nutropin Pen. It was very slightly more dollars than Humatrope vial but less of a headache. Saizen as a cartridge was option #3 but was the most expensive by a large margin.

    I pay out of pocket right now for everything - you don't want to know my monthly expenses between GH and TRT lol, unless you want to buy my kidney.
    Iím no gh expert by any means. Which is why Iím here. But I remember about 2-3 summers ago getting little white boxes with black caps. Donít know what they were called. Donít even remember the bottles having labels. So Iím assuming it was Chinese. Then last summer I bartered some work for a legit kit of serostim. I think they were dead even as far as quality. So I know both can be good or be bunk. Itís a roll of the dice. Unless you get someone with proof thatís willing to share the contact. I have really good health insurance. It would be nice to take advantage of it a somehow get a script. My dr is pretty cool. But you know the stipulation that comes with performance enhancing substances. Can anyone recommend a way of trying to obtain a legit script? Thanks guys.

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    Or how I should maybe approach my dr? I was thinking along the lines of hey doc I’ve been doing research on growth hormone and I haven’t read anything bad about it. How can I go about getting a prescription for it? Lol. I guess it’s a long shot but I can’t think of any other way to go about it.

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    Anyone have any experience with jintropin.us? Good? Bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime1396 View Post
    Or how I should maybe approach my dr? I was thinking along the lines of hey doc I’ve been doing research on growth hormone and I haven’t read anything bad about it. How can I go about getting a prescription for it? Lol. I guess it’s a long shot but I can’t think of any other way to go about it.
    Coloured caps = generic. And to really compare one to the other like the black tops you got to sero you'd have to run both for extended durations with bloodworks to have an accurate and fair comparison otherwise it's just anecdotal with no factual evidence.

    I can't speak for the USA, but generally speaking you won't get GH scripted unless there is a legitimate medical need (Extreme tissue damage, muscle wasting disease, HIV+, etc)

    In terms of controlled substances, Anabolic Steroids actually trump narcotics in many countries. My pharmacy specifically isn't even allowed to stock it, they have to order ever time my refill comes up.
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    I would strongly caution you asking your doctor for a script with no medical case - depending on your relationship the doctor might perceive it as malicious and that could hurt you in the future when there is a legitimate medical need.

    Jintropin is chinese if I remember correctly. Your going to find good, bad, and ugly reviews of everything including pharma where the user didn't realize it was fake. In my opinion learning about specific generics or pharma is a waste of time.

    My recommendation is to instead spend time researching what fake gear looks like and researching labs, not HGH. Find a good quality source that you feel confident in spending money on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post

    I can't speak for the USA, but generally speaking you won't get GH scripted unless there is a legitimate medical need (Extreme tissue damage, muscle wasting disease, HIV+, etc)
    In the USA in plenty of states, 'aging' is considered a type of disease and results in bone loss, muscle loss, etc.. and can therefore be treated with prescription medications (like HGH, Test, Var, Primobolan ). the main qualification is that you be over the age of 35

    (not in all states but you can go outta state for a script .. I'm 800 miles away from Florida but have a doctor and a script from an anti aging clinic there .. they just have the pharmacy drop ship it to me next day air)

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    Windex I completely understand what youíre saying when you say the only real way to compare is by lab tests. I agree. I was just basing it off of personal looks and person feel. But yes youíre right. Yea as far as the dr goes I know itís not going to be a easy task getting a script. Thatís why Iím probably better off just finding a legit source here. But I feel like Iím walking on eggshells here asking certain things. This is the first forum Iíve ever been part of. So I donít know the proper way of asking for a legitimate source without overstepping boundaries. What do you mean when you say ďno source checks pleaseĒ. Like I said this is all new to me. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime1396 View Post
    Windex I completely understand what you’re saying when you say the only real way to compare is by lab tests. I agree. I was just basing it off of personal looks and person feel. But yes you’re right. Yea as far as the dr goes I know it’s not going to be a easy task getting a script. That’s why I’m probably better off just finding a legit source here. But I feel like I’m walking on eggshells here asking certain things. This is the first forum I’ve ever been part of. So I don’t know the proper way of asking for a legitimate source without overstepping boundaries. What do you mean when you say “no source checks please”. Like I said this is all new to me. Thanks
    My signature means I don't provide sources for gear because I wouldn't be of any help - I'm not American.

    This isn't a source board and given that you've identified you want a source you should be cautious who wants to "help you out" as it's often an open invitation to get scammed.

    However, the board does have a section for people to give reviews on labs/brands which is a decent place to start. Despite how accessible the world has become, it takes more than poking around on google to not get scammed. The best advice I have for you is to always wear your common sense hat. Remember, you are looking to buy something illegal, from a complete stranger, over the internet.

    Research and politics is the name of the game. Spend time educating yourself and make friends then the rest will come into place.
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    Thank you very much for the info. It’s much appreciated. You guys have all been very helpful

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