new member before and after pics

**mmmmma** · 01-21-2008, 10:51 PM

read up on how to bulk up.

**Njord** · 01-21-2008, 11:31 PM

If you can't commit 100% to working out and dieting properly, using steroids is a complete waste.
It also looks like you have some pre-existing gyno that is bound to get worse with aas use.

**TURBOonBOOST** · 01-21-2008, 11:57 PM

i'v never done any steroids in my life is that possible gyno working natural??? i thought i just needed to lean up a bit

**DesiBoy** · 01-22-2008, 12:33 AM

just work on the diet and hit the GYM. Don't start with roids, it's wayyyyyyyyyy to early for you.

**sidestep** · 01-22-2008, 01:43 AM

first post 08-28-2005, 11:34 AM... HMMMMMMMM

so why bump this crap ****ing post whores

***perfectbeast2001*** · 01-22-2008, 02:03 AM

please post up your diet in full. it needs work.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 01-22-2008, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by sidestep

first post 08-28-2005, 11:34 AM... HMMMMMMMM

so why bump this crap ****ing post whores

it was bumped by the thread starter......

**sirbuster** · 01-22-2008, 11:16 AM

I see a difference, keep it up. It looks as if you lost some bf, what is your weight now?

**TURBOonBOOST** · 01-22-2008, 01:08 PM

my diet needs alot of work...i really need to change it around

7:00am: i have a bowl of cerial or a few eggs with toast or sometimes even just a protein shake

10:00am: usually have a sandwich some yogurts and piece of fruit and sometimes i throw in a can of tuna

lunch: usually i have a chicken breast with some rice and again a few yogurts

6:00pm:i'll have half a roasted chicken done on the bbq sometimes a whole chicken depending on how hungry i am i usually have that with some potatoes or rice

10:00or11:00pm i'll just have a protein shake

my diet is all over the place and most of you guys are probably thinking ''what the **** is this guy doing''

but like i said sometimes i just dont have the time so i work with what i have

my body weight is at 212lbs 6'3''ish tall...thanks for all your input

***perfectbeast2001*** · 01-22-2008, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by TURBOonBOOST

my diet needs alot of work...i really need to change it around

7:00am: i have a bowl of cerial or a few eggs with toast or sometimes even just a protein shake

10:00am: usually have a sandwich some yogurts and piece of fruit and sometimes i throw in a can of tuna

lunch: usually i have a chicken breast with some rice and again a few yogurts

6:00pm:i'll have half a roasted chicken done on the bbq sometimes a whole chicken depending on how hungry i am i usually have that with some potatoes or rice

10:00or11:00pm i'll just have a protein shake

my diet is all over the place and most of you guys are probably thinking ''what the **** is this guy doing''

but like i said sometimes i just dont have the time so i work with what i have

my body weight is at 212lbs 6'3''ish tall...thanks for all your input

All your problems lie in this diet mate. your right its terrible. I would start from scratch and put yourself a good diet together or you will not get anywhere.... And as for "dont have time" I work two jobs both of which are positions of high responsibility that demand much time. I support a family, There is always time to eat you are just being lazy and cheating yourself out of muscle growth.

**TURBOonBOOST** · 01-22-2008, 01:35 PM

thanks for the input perfectbeast2001...... i have a question: is protein on red meat better then lets say chicken cause one of my friends told me chicken is more for dieting he saind if you you wana gain muscle faster you have to increase your intake in read meat is this true?? he used to compete

**BIGMIKETORR** · 01-24-2008, 12:38 PM

I definitely see change but not huge..... I think ur on the right track just keep eating,training,some more eating and some more training and u will reach ur goals bro...... keep training hard !!!

**TURBOonBOOST** · 01-24-2008, 08:16 PM

thanks BIGMIKETORR

**barondumonde** · 01-25-2008, 12:19 AM

yo Turbo,
you are still not at all where you need to be start thinking about AAS...you look good, but I wouldn't say you're quite there yet...keep lifting...I'll race you to being AAS-ready!

-baron

**TURBOonBOOST** · 01-25-2008, 04:14 PM

thanks bro...i'll try my best....whats your stats??

**Renesis** · 01-26-2008, 01:45 AM

You definitely lost some fat as your abs are now visible but as far as gaining muscle I don't see much change. Then again you said it yourself you haven't really applied yourself so your results won't be drastic.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 01-26-2008, 02:31 AM

I would include red meat in my diet but only for one or two meals a day. You should also include fish and white meat daily.

**Timm1704** · 01-26-2008, 11:38 AM

i have several different meats in the diet a day, it keeps things varied.

As for your pics, in the years since the thread started you seem to have dropped fat but not gained muscle, steroids should be the last thing on your mind.

Good luck

**TURBOonBOOST** · 01-26-2008, 03:33 PM

thanks for all your input guys

**Jfew44** · 02-11-2008, 11:00 PM

Protein Shakes are a must. To build quality muscle you must consume as much protein as possible. Shakes are an easy way to get that. 40 grams of whey in the morning and PWO is an easy way to get 80 grams.

**BIGMIKETORR** · 02-11-2008, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Jfew44

Protein Shakes are a must. To build quality muscle you must consume as much protein as possible. Shakes are an easy way to get that. 40 grams of whey in the morning and PWO is an easy way to get 80 grams.

yeah but u still need a majority of good quality protein from ur meats dont try and get most of ur protein from shakes.

**legobricks** · 02-11-2008, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by Jfew44

Protein Shakes are a must. To build quality muscle you must consume as much protein as possible. Shakes are an easy way to get that. 40 grams of whey in the morning and PWO is an easy way to get 80 grams.

No, they are not a must. Protein shakes are not as great as many think. Whole food is better for muscle anabolism. Protein shakes are also digested to fast. And besides, i can eat a chicken breast faster then i can reasonably drink a protein shake (unless i slam it) and 2 chicken breasts can be anywhere from 80 grams to 120grams depending on how big they are. The protein powder is a good additoin to a natural shake after the gym IMO, like say, 1 cup oats, 3 raw egg whites, 2tblsp natty peanut butter and 1tblsp flaxseed oil with milk and a scoop of whey protein is good. But like stated, whole food is better.

**Jfew44** · 02-12-2008, 08:34 AM

When you're taking in over 400 grams a day I find it hard to eat only whole foods such as chicken, lean beef, fish, when bulking because I don't want more than 4000 or so cals. I agree though, best to get the majority of your protein from good whole foods but whey and casein help

**Ajc330** · 02-12-2008, 09:13 AM

i see a huge change, he lost a lot of fat

**notatallafreak** · 02-14-2008, 01:52 AM

diet is valuable to your program learn to just eat more

**nextphase** · 02-20-2008, 01:25 PM

I think the dude is just BSing this board!

**BITTAPART2** · 02-20-2008, 01:35 PM

it always kills me how some newb. can just decide to take steroids ...ummm I think I will take some of this and some of that for my cycle.....dude I lost my source during ORD I dont understand how these newbs are getting sources....unless its LE????hmmmm

**TURBOonBOOST** · 03-22-2008, 08:22 AM

just thought i'd post a few pics on my progress so far... these were taken this morning when i woke up

**inky-e** · 03-22-2008, 11:31 AM

no juice for you!

**Lach01** · 03-22-2008, 01:26 PM

Can deff see improvments mate but stay away from the juice PM beast and he'll go through your diet, but there is a improvent there keep up the hard work