new member before and after pics

**TURBOonBOOST** · 08-28-2005, 10:34 AM

Hi guys what's up new member here,any advice i joined the gym about three month's ago and since then i gained 20 pounds all natural but now a friend of mine that goes to the gym with me told me i should go on the sauce to bulk up faster but i dont know if it's a good idea, if i do go on it what should i take i was thinking some russian D-BOL AND DECA what do you guy's think.

**thestudent** · 08-28-2005, 10:38 AM

Just run test only. Either cyp or enanthate for your first cycle

**TURBOonBOOST** · 08-28-2005, 10:59 AM

heres the after pics

**TURBOonBOOST** · 08-28-2005, 11:02 AM

another one

**BigMike J** · 08-28-2005, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by TURBOonBOOST

Hi guys what's up new member here,any advice i joined the gym about three month's ago and since then i gained 20 pounds all natural but now a friend of mine that goes to the gym with me told me i should go on the sauce to bulk up faster but i dont know if it's a good idea, if i do go on it what should i take i was thinking some russian D-BOL AND DECA what do you guy's think.

d-bol + deca = bad stack

go with test and dbol or just test.

**timtim** · 08-28-2005, 12:18 PM

you need a few solid years of training and dieting before you think of using aas. you are not even close to being ready to cycle. this is not a flame.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 08-28-2005, 12:45 PM

No kiddin man...dont cycle s h i t until about 3 more years...when you struggle and i mean like actually struggle like you are liftin hard and eating over 3600 calories a day and hardly growing anymore THEN go on a cycle...until then research research and research all you can about the sport of bodybuilding...and by the way if you were to cycle, dbol and deca would be a horrible choice...NO TEST, NO CYCLE. good luck with the training bro i look forward to seeing your results in future pics.

**TURBOonBOOST** · 08-28-2005, 02:06 PM

thanks for the info guys. heres a couple of more pics do you guy's think i have good genetics or am i wasting my time.

**GREENMACHINE** · 08-28-2005, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by BigMike J

d-bol + deca = bad stack

go with test and dbol or just test.

He is only in the gym three months.

**SinCityMan** · 08-29-2005, 01:02 AM

I am going to have to agree with everyone, based on what i have been told. I have been working out about 6 years total (4 serious) and people tell me not to do it yet. You need to get your diet down and your workout routine set a bit more than 3 months worth. Most likely you would end up hurting yourself more than anything.

As far as having good genetics or just wasting your time. No one here could tell you, because you are a relativly untouched canvas no one here knows how you grow and what you will look like after training seriously. Keep with it do what makes you happy. Just because you cant beat arnold now doesnt mean that it isnt worth shooting for.

By the way what are your stats height weight etc? and what are your goals? That might help some people to give better feedback.

**TURBOonBOOST** · 08-29-2005, 06:36 AM

Thank's for the info SinCityMan, i'm 6'2'' and weigh 212 pounds my goal right now is to reach anywhere betwen 240 and 260 but i know that's gona be major hard i'm gona try anyway's once again thank's for all the info.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 08-29-2005, 10:42 AM

even if someone does have bad genetics, they should still workout. ENOUGH SAID!

**SwoleCat** · 08-29-2005, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by TURBOonBOOST

i was thinking some russian D-BOL AND DECA what do you guy's think.

NO!

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**S.P.G** · 08-29-2005, 12:52 PM

cardio, diet, no steroids , good workout, end of

**MASTER** · 08-29-2005, 01:24 PM

no offense mate but u av a lot to learn, by the looks of ur b4 and after pics, that 20lbs is mostly fat. Visit the workout and diet forums and get ur training and diet sorted, having just started, the improvements ull make with a solid diet and training program will be vast.

**TURBOonBOOST** · 08-29-2005, 02:47 PM

I know i gained some fat but right now i just want to bulk up betwen 240 and 260 i just want to get some size for now then i'll work on the diet i was told to eat like an animal if you want to get big and i dont mean junk food i just think if i go on a diet now i'll be skin and bone. What do you guy's think am i doing the right thing, bulk up first then go on a diet?

**kaptainkeezy04** · 08-29-2005, 03:05 PM

you can bulk up muscle and not fat you know that right?

**TURBOonBOOST** · 08-29-2005, 03:07 PM

Yeah i know

**SinCityMan** · 08-29-2005, 07:19 PM

the difference between what you and JamesC's idea of bulking is quality vs quantity. You need to bulk up good things tons of protein especially. Diet does not necessarily mean that you will get skinny. Diet simply refers to what you consume on a daily basis.

**collar** · 08-29-2005, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by TURBOonBOOST

I know i gained some fat but right now i just want to bulk up betwen 240 and 260 i just want to get some size for now then i'll work on the diet i was told to eat like an animal if you want to get big and i dont mean junk food i just think if i go on a diet now i'll be skin and bone. What do you guy's think am i doing the right thing, bulk up first then go on a diet?

there is a bulking diet.
and cutting diet.
diet is not just bout been skin and bones

**smokethedays** · 08-30-2005, 01:11 AM

honestly i don't see noticable dif.

**collar** · 08-30-2005, 01:16 AM

me too ....
i hope your diet is good...
work on your diet and post it up man...
ppl will help you out here..

**MASTER** · 08-30-2005, 07:30 AM

yeh i didnt mean diet as in lose weight i meant eat a lot, but eat the right foods. U can continue eating the same amount of calories or even more, but clean up ur act, cut out the empty calories and concentrate on quality foods like sincityman sed. Whe i say quality foods i mean foods like lean cuts of meat, whole pasta, brown rice, wholemeal bread and fibrous veggies. Eating a lot of calories doesnt have to mean eating a lot of crap. Read the sticky by mike xxl in the diet forum, some very gd info there, and u onli av to look at him to see this kind of approach pays dividends.

**Kreatine_Kid** · 08-30-2005, 09:14 AM

A good rule of thumb is wait untill you have large, visable deltoids and have built them naturally! Once you have them, youve trained long and hard enough to begin contemplating the "gear"

**TURBOonBOOST** · 08-30-2005, 03:43 PM

thanks for clearing that for me JamesC, i found this site http://www.ring.com/health/food/food.htm can you check it it has lot's of information it shows all the types of foods i should be eating and how much callories i should take per day, that's what you mean by dieting right?

**SwoleCat** · 08-30-2005, 04:54 PM

Mmmmmm, no.....

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**MASTER** · 08-30-2005, 05:08 PM

no, u gotta understand bodybuilding nutrition is completely different than nutrition for normal people just tryin to be healthy, like i sed b4 go to the diet forum on this site, and ull get sorted there, a gd idea wud b 2 start a thread outlining ur goals and post an example of ur diet on 1 day, and others will give u advice on things u cud improve etc.

**MASTER** · 08-30-2005, 05:11 PM

i gotta say it makes me so angry when people who av just started training and no nothing about diet and little about training get told to do roids by friends, some friends eh!

**TURBOonBOOST** · 08-30-2005, 07:10 PM

Thank's JamesC

**FINAMAN** · 08-30-2005, 07:49 PM

eat eat eat and keep on eating and training . give it a couple years at the least 3 months is nothing but keep up the good work its a good start.

**TURBOonBOOST** · 09-01-2005, 02:53 PM

Thank's FinaMan. I have a question should i be going to the gym 5 to 6 times per week or is that to much,some guy's tell me i should only be going like 3 to 4 times per week?

mon:chest
tus:sholders
wed:legs
thr:back
fri:arms
sometimes i go on saturday or sunday and do some more legs

**FINAMAN** · 09-01-2005, 06:18 PM

To be honest I prefer 3-4 times/week. I believe 5-6 is over training and your not getting enough rest. Your body needs rest in order for it to grow. I don’t like your workout schedule at all .you work on 1 body part a day? It's best to do 2 body parts/day. For example this is something like my schedule
You don’t have 2 necessarily do it like this but its just a example
Monday - triceps/Chest
Tuesday - Rest
Wednesday - Back/Biceps
Thursday - Rest
Friday - shoulders/traps
Saturday - Rest
Sunday - Legs/cardio/Abz

**TURBOonBOOST** · 09-01-2005, 06:29 PM

Thank's FinaMan

**FINAMAN** · 09-01-2005, 06:42 PM

anytime

**S.P.G** · 09-02-2005, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by TURBOonBOOST

Thank's FinaMan. I have a question should i be going to the gym 5 to 6 times per week or is that to much,some guy's tell me i should only be going like 3 to 4 times per week?

mon:chest
tus:sholders
wed:legs
thr:back
fri:arms
sometimes i go on saturday or sunday and do some more legs

that is horrible get your self in the workout forum

**TURBOonBOOST** · 01-21-2008, 03:51 PM

its been a while since i'v been here... i took all you guys advice and its been paying off THANKS YOU GUYS this is my progress so far... i could have done much better but i'v only been going to the gym 1 or 2 times a week sometimes not at all do to not having any time.... now i have a bit more time so i'm gona give it my best this time.....should i be thinking in a cycle or should i stay away for a bit longer????some test-e and d-bol what do you guys think??

**largerthannormal** · 01-21-2008, 03:59 PM

i was just gonna ask who bumped such an old thread! but then i noticed it was urs! doesnt look like u changed much. how have u been eating. gym time is a little on the low side!

**TURBOonBOOST** · 01-21-2008, 04:24 PM

been eating alot healthier theres still some stuff that needs to be changed though the gym time is really lown i'v been really busy at work so it didnt leave me enough time for anything else now i have time off in the winter so it should help

**largerthannormal** · 01-21-2008, 04:27 PM

k i still would try to eat more. possibly smaller meals and more times a day like 6-8 meals a day! add some protein shakes as well. maybe try some creatine as well! how old are u? ill log back in 2morro to see what ur response is! peace bro!

**TURBOonBOOST** · 01-21-2008, 04:36 PM

i'm 29...thats something i really have to change is to space out my meals,, i'm taking a protein shake everyday. i probably should up that to two at least.. not taking any creatine yet but i'll get some for sure... thanks for the info largerthannormal