One Cycle=Results=Comments

**Young Boy** · 04-12-2006, 10:28 PM

Hey guys, just wanted to get my before pictures up of me and show my recent pics, and to get some comments from yall. I stacked a 10 week cycle of Omnadren 250 and a 8 week cylce of Equipose...Ive always been a hard gainer so dont hate to much on my before pics haha. But anyways take a look and give me some criticism. (And sorry if the pics are too big...i couldnt attach them)
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**AnabolicAndre** · 04-12-2006, 10:40 PM

Honeslty you could have done that without AAS, and since you dide use AAS you should check out the diet forum.

welcome to AR brother

**mwolffey** · 04-12-2006, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre

Honeslty you could have done that without AAS, and since you dide use AAS you should check out the diet forum.

welcome to AR brother

Ditto

but too late now, dont touch anything again for some time

**ProtienShak3** · 04-14-2006, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by mwolffey

Ditto

but too late now, dont touch anything again for some time

mwolffey your avatar makes me cry!!!! LMAO thats just wrong ! hahahha

anyway young boy i can tell you have made some nice gains a marked improvement indeed however keeping them will be the tricky part. the best advice i can give is eat more food ! and when i mean eat i mean EAT!!!!!!! I lifted pretty serious from 15-20 yr old and i can honestly say looking back the #1 missing key element preventing me from adding the size i wanted was proper diet.

You are young and i bet your metabolisim is very high put it too you this way the only time you should be hungry is when you wake up .. other than that you should be force feeding yourself !! you dont have to be hungry to eat !!! Good luck hopefully if you get the diet up to par you can keep those gains and keep growing !

**soccer#3** · 04-12-2006, 11:34 PM

lookin good.. back and front

got any legs?

**SwoleCat** · 04-12-2006, 11:41 PM

I can't tell which pics are what?

~SC~

**soccer#3** · 04-13-2006, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

I can't tell which pics are what?

~SC~

thats cold

***Narkissos*** · 04-14-2006, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

I can't tell which pics are what?

~SC~

ditto.

How many weeks had you been training before you cycled?

**Carlos_E** · 04-14-2006, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

I can't tell which pics are what?

~SC~

Originally Posted by Narkissos

ditto.

Same here.

**eljugo16** · 04-22-2006, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

Same here.

same here

**BEER WHORE** · 04-12-2006, 11:46 PM

what are your stats and age..did you do 250mg or 500mg a week.

**BigRandy** · 04-13-2006, 12:30 AM

good improvement..however i never would have guessed you cycled

**jollygreenGIANT** · 04-13-2006, 12:56 AM

how old r u?

ur arms look bigger in the second pic than the first..but ur flexing in one back pic and not the other...cant really tell

**crash187ct** · 04-14-2006, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by jollygreenGIANT

how old r u?

ur arms look bigger in the second pic than the first..but ur flexing in one back pic and not the other...cant really tell

i was about to ask the same thing, you look 16

**Young Boy** · 04-14-2006, 11:00 AM

haha No im 19, like I said i have a small body frame. Im 6ft and always been scrawny. I have been working out seroius for 4 years now, and just couldnt pack on any muscle...even with the weight gainers or supplements. Anyways thats what led me to the test...i know yall tell me to hold off on it, but i will prolly cycle something different here in a month...i like the way it feels, and before yall call me a damn retard, just try and recommend me what i should stock up on for this next cycle.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 04-14-2006, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Young Boy

haha No im 19, like I said i have a small body frame. Im 6ft and always been scrawny. I have been working out seroius for 4 years now, and just couldnt pack on any muscle...even with the weight gainers or supplements. Anyways thats what led me to the test...i know yall tell me to hold off on it, but i will prolly cycle something different here in a month...i like the way it feels, and before yall call me a damn retard, just try and recommend me what i should stock up on for this next cycle.

With the pace your headed after about 8 cycles you might actually look like someone who works out regularly.

Now for the BOLD ^

You should save your money that your going to spend on juice and put it to food. Working out serious for 4 years....BULLSHIT. Working out halfassed and inconsistant for 4 years is probably more realistic. AM I RIGHT? I think I am. EAT + LIFT for another constant 4 years, and then you MIGHT have the base foundation for aas. Obviously after seeing your before and after pics. A cycle for you in the next 4 years will be another wasted cycle with gains that are easily achievable naturally. BE SMART.

**freak_of_nature_86** · 04-14-2006, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Young Boy

haha No im 19, like I said i have a small body frame. Im 6ft and always been scrawny. I have been working out seroius for 4 years now, and just couldnt pack on any muscle...even with the weight gainers or supplements. Anyways thats what led me to the test...i know yall tell me to hold off on it, but i will prolly cycle something different here in a month...i like the way it feels, and before yall call me a damn retard, just try and recommend me what i should stock up on for this next cycle.

your the dumbest **** on this site

***Narkissos*** · 04-14-2006, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by freak_of_nature_86

your the dumbest **** on this site

(for you: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=168234)

Keep it constructive and respectful guys

~Narkissos

**crash187ct** · 04-14-2006, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Young Boy

haha No im 19, like I said i have a small body frame. Im 6ft and always been scrawny. I have been working out seroius for 4 years now, and just couldnt pack on any muscle...even with the weight gainers or supplements. Anyways thats what led me to the test...i know yall tell me to hold off on it, but i will prolly cycle something different here in a month...i like the way it feels, and before yall call me a damn retard, just try and recommend me what i should stock up on for this next cycle.

there is no way possible. you could lift 4 years serious, and look the way you do.

**chest6** · 04-13-2006, 02:12 AM

Looks very achievable naturally to me in just a few months..

**Young Boy** · 04-13-2006, 06:26 AM

Im only 19, and I took 500 mg a week. I have severe knee problems, therefore, I have absolutley no legs haha. I dieted right just never could gain any mass, finally I decided to try this cycle and went from 154 to 175.

**Haro3** · 04-13-2006, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Young Boy

Im only 19, I have absolutley no legs haha. I dieted right just never could gain any mass, went from 154 to 175.

these are reasons u shouldnt have cycled, no flame at all man everyone makes mistakes but hopefully you learned its not a miracle drug but i guarantee and i would say most people would agree u could have done that naturally, if you werent gaining mass naturally ur diet isnt in check, and if you dont know how to diet theres 0 reason to use steroids . Post ur diet and we can help you make gains but i would learn alot more before considering juice again

**Young Boy** · 04-13-2006, 02:14 PM

Yeah, im 6 ft. and my diet is as good as it can get with a high school students schedule. I take in 3 protien shakes a day, Eat about 6 servings of meat, and 4 of carb loaded meals. I couldnt ever get a hold of another vial of Equipose so the 8 weeks is all I could get. The test last me 10 weeks, and from what I have read it kicks in after 4 weeks. I lift 4 days a week(Monday,Tuesday, Thursday, Friday) Wed. being my cardio/off day. I would like to try and cycle again, but would rather here from yall what I should take( I know most will try to guide me away) but I would really like to know what I can cycle to gain alot more mass this time around, but also keep it.

**Andorious** · 04-13-2006, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Young Boy

Yeah, im 6 ft. and my diet is as good as it can get with a high school students schedule. I take in 3 protien shakes a day, Eat about 6 servings of meat, and 4 of carb loaded meals. I couldnt ever get a hold of another vial of Equipose so the 8 weeks is all I could get. The test last me 10 weeks, and from what I have read it kicks in after 4 weeks. I lift 4 days a week(Monday,Tuesday, Thursday, Friday) Wed. being my cardio/off day. I would like to try and cycle again, but would rather here from yall what I should take( I know most will try to guide me away) but I would really like to know what I can cycle to gain alot more mass this time around, but also keep it.

alright im not gonna flame u for using roids already at ur age cause i hope u already got the point from everyone else, but if u want advice u should post ur diet. no offense but 6 servings of meat, and 4 of "carb loaded meals" is pretty vague. wht kind of meat? wht kind of carbs? i'm sure the juice helped u gain some mass, but if u really wanna see some serious results and get ur money's worth, then get some advice on the diet. IMO everything, meaning ur diet, training schedule, even sleep, should be perfect b4 u touch juice again. if u want serious gains thn u need to know a lot more thn just which cycle to run. if u want some serious responses from the guys on this board thn answer their questions about ur lifting experience and diet, cause no one is gonna wanna recommend steroids to u w/o making sure u know wht ur doing.

**FLEXrr** · 04-22-2006, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Young Boy

Yeah, im 6 ft. and my diet is as good as it can get with a high school students schedule.

My pic is of me, A 20 yr old(at the time) with a busy ass college and work schedule, and AAS free! I must say it was a pretty good diet and training schedule... (Not that my pic is all that clear)

**AnabolicAndre** · 04-13-2006, 06:44 AM

How tall are you? You dont look to be 175 unluess you're like 6 foot. And if you dieted right you wouldnt need AAS.

everyone is a hardgainer, I know...

**tank2005** · 04-14-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre

How tall are you? You dont look to be 175 unluess you're like 6 foot. And if you dieted right you wouldnt need AAS.

everyone is a hardgainer, I know...

ya you sayn that he would not need to juice and he could do it without roids ,but when you are a hard gainer it is so hard to put on mass.......i am in the same boat.........why not juice to kick start you mass............i have gone from 127 to 160 in 9 weeks and with the right pct there is no reason why i cant hold my gains.......................my goal is 185 befor my next cycle............................remember for us hard gainers it would take years to get what we want ,when we can get it in 12 weeks ............

**1buffsob** · 04-15-2006, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by tank2005

ya you sayn that he would not need to juice and he could do it without roids ,but when you are a hard gainer it is so hard to put on mass.......i am in the same boat.........why not juice to kick start you mass............i have gone from 127 to 160 in 9 weeks and with the right pct there is no reason why i cant hold my gains.......................my goal is 185 befor my next cycle............................remember for us hard gainers it would take years to get what we want ,when we can get it in 12 weeks ............

I really don't know where to begin.

1buffsob

**FullMoonHowlingWolf** · 04-15-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by tank2005

ya you sayn that he would not need to juice and he could do it without roids ,but when you are a hard gainer it is so hard to put on mass.......i am in the same boat.........why not juice to kick start you mass............i have gone from 127 to 160 in 9 weeks and with the right pct there is no reason why i cant hold my gains.......................my goal is 185 befor my next cycle............................remember for us hard gainers it would take years to get what we want ,when we can get it in 12 weeks ............

Hard gainer is just an excuse for not having enough knowledge or being dedicated. It wasn't easy for me to gain mass, until I really learned. You're 23, 5' 11" and 160 lbs. and this is from using gear. Come on bro, you could have reached this easily without gear. You claim to be a hard gainer, but your profile states you've been lifting on and off for only 2 years. Put some time and effort in to your training.

Now back to Young Kid and the reason people are telling him not to use gear is for numerous and obvious reasons, which have been already stated, not to mention that he's only 19!

**1buffsob** · 04-15-2006, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by FullMoonHowlingWolf

Now back to Young Kid and the reason people are telling him not to use gear is for numerous and obvious reasons, which have been already stated, not to mention that he's only 19!

I think age is the least of his problems. It's his mind set. It's the 'I take steroids cuz it makes me feel good' or 'PCT, don't know nothing about it, but won't spend the time to learn' attitude. If this guy was 45 years old, my advice would be the same. It's just plain arrogence mixed with a deadly amount of ignorance. These kind of people scare me.

1buffsob

BTW Tank2005, I commend you for obvious reasons. It takes a lot of guts to be called out like that and not get offended.

**ascendant** · 04-18-2006, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by tank2005

ya you sayn that he would not need to juice and he could do it without roids ,but when you are a hard gainer it is so hard to put on mass.......i am in the same boat.........why not juice to kick start you mass............i have gone from 127 to 160 in 9 weeks and with the right pct there is no reason why i cant hold my gains.......................my goal is 185 befor my next cycle............................remember for us hard gainers it would take years to get what we want ,when we can get it in 12 weeks ............

for starters, hard gainers are going to be hard gainers whether they are on gear or not. the issue is most often not hormones (and showing how little the hormones did for him on his cycle proves that), it's usually diet, training, and rest.

being a "hard gainer" is just an excuse for not wanting to make the effort and wanting an easy way out. i started lifting at about 14 years old, and i was only 135lbs!!! i started training and FORCEFEEDING, and put on 40lbs. in about 4 months. that was without steroids as well! it doesn't take steroids at that point.

if your metabolism is that high that you claim you can't gain, you have to forcefeed all the time. i used to forcefeed myself till i'd end up puking sometimes, then i'd eat again to make up for what i threw up! took months of doing that till my stomach expanded enough to take in the calories i needed, but my gains were unbelievable.

the majority of the time people are hardgainers because of not getting enough calories, even though they think they're stuffing themselves all the time. you need to do a number crunch. there's a link on the diet forums here that's a sticky which has a calorie calculator to show how many calories you'd need in a day.

if you truly are taking in enough calories (which i seriously doubt judging by your looks), then your issue must be how you're training. you should be posting your diet and training regimen and having that critiqued, you should not be bothering with "what cycle do i waste money on next to get minimal gains off of it that could be achieved if i wasn't too lazy to learn?". you don't even know what pct is yet! that alone shows you jumped into this uninformed and unprepared. take a step back and look at the big picture here.

oh, and as for you "tank2005" and your above quote, you know that by taking the gear now before attaining what you're actually capable of will limit the maximum you'll ever be able to achieve? taking gear as far short of your genetic limits as you are has greatly hindered your maximum gains achievable. don't juice just because you don't know what you're doing and use the excuse "boo hoo, i'm a hardgainer". you could achieve the gains you metioned far faster if you worked on aspects of your training other than just taking gear.

your first priorities should be your diet and training and when they're in check, next you can consider gear. if you truly believe both are in check then post them and see what people have to say about it. and don't use the "school" excuse. we all work son, but we find the time to eat what we need. stop the excuses and take responsibility for your own shortcomings.

i'm sorry if this comes off as flaming, as my intent is to try to help you, but i'm just sick of people taking gear and using excuses that they can't gain without it. unless you go to a doctor and they tell you you're hormonally deficient, there's no legitimate excuse.

**1buffsob** · 04-13-2006, 07:17 AM

What they all said ^^^^. That aside, you obviously don't know much about dieting, and you don't know crap about aas. EQ needs to be run 12 weeks minimum before any results. It only kicks in at about week 7 or 8. And dare I ask about PCT?

1buffsob

***Alex*** · 04-13-2006, 11:05 AM

agreed with everyone. should have waited , could have done it natural in no time!

**tank2005** · 04-14-2006, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by *Alex*

agreed with everyone. should have waited , could have done it natural in no time!

he could of done it in no time ,he said he has been workin out for 4 years [diet is not right ] hard to gain without juice............

**1buffsob** · 04-13-2006, 02:40 PM

How long have you even been off? Did you even do a PCT? Do you even know what that is?

Also, since when are high school kids 19 years old. You look and sound younger than 18 IMHO.

As for your diet, I doubt it is "as good as it can get with a high school student's schedule" There are plenty of guys here in college, or that work 50-60 hours a week, and find the time to diet and train properly. So don't use that as an excuse. Tuna is cheap, before you try that as a reason too.

I hope that you take the advice of these guys, and hold off on cycling.

1buffsob

**Hellmaskbanned** · 04-13-2006, 03:05 PM

Is that even possible?

To take all that test and hardly grow during your first cycle?

You literally must have starved yourself.

***Alex*** · 04-13-2006, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Is that even possible?

To take all that test and hardly grow during your first cycle?

You literally must have starved yourself.

looking the after picture i think he did! look any other cycle arent going to help you bulk . if you dont have a base (which you dont) ytou wont gain SHIT and you wont keep SHIT! so stay OFF the juice!

**1buffsob** · 04-14-2006, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Is that even possible?

To take all that test and hardly grow during your first cycle?

You literally must have starved yourself.

Apparently it is

1buffsob

**Young Boy** · 04-14-2006, 02:45 PM

PCT, im guessing that might be the post cycle treatment... no i never looked into it, dont know enough about it. Dont know how to get it.

**fitguy** · 04-14-2006, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Young Boy

PCT, im guessing that might be the post cycle treatment... no i never looked into it, dont know enough about it. Dont know how to get it.

listen to the advice your are getting in this thread bro ,without knowledge about training ,diet,steroids and pct you shouldnt be running any aas any soon ..running steroids without knowing about diet and training is dumb but runining steroids without knowing about pct is ****in dumb bro ..peace