Cutting Progress

**Undecided09** · 04-25-2006, 02:53 PM

About to Bulk in about a month, going to finish off this cutting diet just to be as lean as possible for summer and pre-bulk...The pics are further proof I need to start to bulk, I have nothing to cut, but in my mind I need to be lean for summa baby!!!

**Undecided09** · 04-25-2006, 02:55 PM

The wheels...

**train410** · 04-25-2006, 03:28 PM

good luck with bulking

**chest6** · 04-25-2006, 03:33 PM

I like the poster in the back

**AnabolicAndre** · 04-25-2006, 03:34 PM

Max is that you...?

you look more then ready to bulk brother, who comprimise more muscle loss, start eating!!!!

Good luck!

**Undecided09** · 04-25-2006, 03:46 PM

The funniest part is that since I have been cutting my weight has gone up, its gotta be water retentions, cause I am certainly more defined...My strength has still been increasing too!!! Sorry for the double thread..

**BeerBaron** · 04-25-2006, 08:41 PM

the faces you are making in the poses are priceless.

**EcToMoRpHiAn** · 04-25-2006, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

the faces you are making in the poses are priceless.

Beat me to it bro... Yeah, I was ROFL looking at the faces. Good job on not neglecting the legs.

**Undecided09** · 04-25-2006, 09:23 PM

haha, thanks for the critique of my face and not my body...haha, jk, I can't help it I go hard, lol...

**mwolffey** · 04-25-2006, 09:30 PM

good luck bro

**Undecided09** · 04-26-2006, 05:20 PM

Thanks Wolf...I can't wait to bulk

**mwolffey** · 04-26-2006, 08:44 PM

yea im with you there bro...my comp is in 2 weeks then i start an 8-10 week lean bulker

**Undecided09** · 04-27-2006, 06:59 PM

I hope it goes well

**mwolffey** · 04-27-2006, 08:31 PM

thanks alot bro...ill be tracking your bulk...good luck with you too, train hard brother

**Undecided09** · 04-28-2006, 12:43 AM

You KNow I'll train hard, Watch me Grow!! haha

**mousetraps** · 04-28-2006, 10:34 PM

nice work buddy, you'd look mean with a couple of pounds packed on your upper back

**Undecided09** · 04-28-2006, 10:43 PM

Thats the idea man...I can't wait to see what I look like with a couple more lbs...

**mousetraps** · 04-28-2006, 11:06 PM

what does the first meal of the day look like for you?

**Undecided09** · 04-29-2006, 07:34 AM

50 Grams Protein, From Whey, 45 Grams of Carbs from Oats, half Regular Flavor, half Apples and Cinnamon, Quaker Oatmeal, Bananna, some veggies...

**Ntpadude** · 04-30-2006, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

the faces you are making in the poses are priceless.

Yea but I was thinking, you gotta give the kid a big "A+" for his effort! Go for the bulking but dont bulk with ice cream sandwiches and french fries... I have a feeling this kid will come back in couple years and will be a absolute FREAK! (you know all buff and stuff)

**Undecided09** · 04-30-2006, 12:36 AM

hahaha, thanks, Well I was thinking the same thing!!! I mean shape and muscularity has never been the problem, size has always been the issue...Until recently I didn't understand how important diet was in determining what kind of training you were doing, I was always trying to adjust my workout regimen, BIG MISTAKE!!! So I have never truly BULKED before because I have never dieted to bulk...THus, I have put on signifcant size in just over a year, going from 165 to 180, without even dieting to truly bulk...I can't wait to see how my body reacts to a bulking diet! I have the feeling I'm going to respond well!

**mousetraps** · 04-30-2006, 01:26 PM

i want you to eat the biggest breakfast possible... a protein shake and 5 pieces of peanut butter toast for example... protein fats and carbs

**Undecided09** · 04-30-2006, 02:07 PM

haha, Why????

**TinTin78** · 04-30-2006, 02:11 PM

Stop this cutting already man, you are cut to the bone and you will not see much more until you get some more mass on.

**Undecided09** · 04-30-2006, 06:25 PM

Tin I know man, it kills me that I need to bulk and its summertime, thats what so hard, and if I bulk now, I'm gonna stick with it for 8 months, which is a long time...

**TinTin78** · 05-01-2006, 08:12 AM

Do a lean one and you will still look great!

**mwolffey** · 05-01-2006, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by TinTin78

Do a lean one and you will still look great!

ditto

just watch cals, and if you do things right, ie:cardio, diet, and training, by the end of those 8 months you would add only at most 5% bf, but if you gain fat easy like me, i would reccomend a shorter clean bulk maye 14-16 weeks then a short 8 week cut

**Undecided09** · 05-01-2006, 07:34 PM

Maybe I will do that, my only problem is that I have never dieted to bulk, thats why I am so A. hype about going all out and eating some serious cals and B. hesitant to start it because I look good right now and summer is right here, so bad timing on my part

**mwolffey** · 05-01-2006, 09:47 PM

300 above maintinece and you will make all the gains you need bro...and the right quality gains at that....and still look good for summer. you can do it, just save the all out bulks for winter..imo

**Undecided09** · 05-01-2006, 09:58 PM

you think so?? 300 and is 300 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight?? well wolffey as far as my cutting goes right now...My protein is distrubuted throughout the course of the day over 5 or 6 meals, I get atleast 300 grams of protein a day...I take in about 40 grams of carbs and breakfast, complex, about 20 prelift, and about 50 postlift...all complex carbs by the way, all wheat bread and oatmeal...So 300 grams of protein a day and 110 grams of carbs, mostly complex, about 20-30 grams of sugar, per day, not sure about fat...No dairy whatsoever, no cheese, milk, etc...No sauces either on any of my food, except franks hot sauce....So as far as my clean bulk goes...I would keep the same protein distrubution, but I would take in equal amount of carbs as protein everytime I take in protein...I think Ill keep dairy out, keep the carbs complex still and have a little leeway with fat...thoughts???

**mwolffey** · 05-02-2006, 09:41 AM

include good fats like natty pb...and i meant 300 cals above maintince, i dont know if you think i meant 300 g of protien, but that would be good though

**Undecided09** · 05-02-2006, 10:44 AM

Wolf, my protein always stays at 300 at a minimum, cutting or bulking...Does everything sound pretty legit?? Will I still be able to maintain a pretty good physique while tryin to bulk a lil?

**Undecided09** · 06-06-2006, 10:16 PM

Hey boys, just bumpin some pics...One month into my bulking, things have been going pretty good, Im a steady 180-185 weight at the moment, and best part is my BF has been so low...I had it tested the other day and it was at 8 percent...I know people are gonna debate that, but the person who tested me and did all my measurements and wrote my program is very highly respected in both the BB world and Personal Fitness, hes been around for a while too, so that is as good a reading as ull get...But back to the matter at hand, everything has been going pretty well and I was just to lazy to post the old pics too, so bump for some updates!

**Undecided09** · 06-07-2006, 07:32 PM

bump the updates!

**SwoleCat** · 06-07-2006, 07:41 PM

Sorry, not a flame, but you are not 8% bodyfat.

~SC~

**HULKBOY** · 06-07-2006, 08:05 PM

yea bro def not 8% but I'd cut back on the cutting looks like your losing some size and BF looks about the same as your befores up top...

**Undecided09** · 06-07-2006, 11:13 PM

I'm not cutting I'm bulking...I just didnt feel like starting a new thread just to put up the old and new pics in to compare when I already had this one...Also, I am 8 percent, Now I know u guys are gonna debate this and give me all these reasons why I'm not, but the person who writes my programs, and does all my measurements, and my tests, etc...He is a highly highly reputable bodybuilder and personal trainer, he is about as decorated and well respected a trainer there is in the business, so I'm not about to question his calculations...

**HULKBOY** · 06-08-2006, 06:54 AM

if this dude is telling you your 8% then i'd drop him with the quickness for lying to you. cause if thats 8% then im like 4%..dude i really dont wanna debate this, but at <10% you should be pretty ripped..your not..id get it checked by someone else and guarantee you it'll be above 11%