advice on first cycle + current natural pics

[donberry427]

hey whats up everyone. I havent posted a pic and looked for advice on a nice first cycle in sometime. here it goes:

Current stats: (i dont have time to post a current pic)
6'5
250LBS (recently gained 4lbs in 3 days since i was preloading my creatine)
Bf% 12-15

Picture stats (12/2/09):
After 4 week cycle of: 25mg vaspro Ephedrine, 2.5mg yohimbine, 187mg asprin, 200mg caffine

6'5
233
bf% under 10



I was doing alot of compound lifts (clean and press, deadlifts, BB bench etc...) With 15 mins on the bike at high resis i lost 24lbs in 4 months

My diet consist of The usual:
Old fashion oats in the morning with blueberries and raisins (1/4 cup each)
Maybe hard boiled eggs and lean bacon

lunch is chicken/turkey sandwhiches on whole wheat

snack (something with meat)

Dinner (PWO) 1lb lean meat, 1+cups brown rice, 1+cups green veggies

AM vitamins: (3 grams fish oil, 1g vit c, 600 mg calcium, 75mcg folic acid, 1g MSM, 750 glucosamine, 400 i.u. vit e, 500mg niacin, ginko boloba, gensieng)

Pre WO shake: ( 1 scoop protien, 1 teaspoon micronized creatine, 1 scoop glutamine, 1 scoop waxy maize/trehalose mix)

Pre WO vits: Yohimbine + caffine (cycle 4 weeks on 2-4 weeks off)

Post WO shake: (2 scoops protien, 2 scoops waxy maize mix, 1 scoop glutamine, 1 tea of creatine)




heres my WO... Should look familiar if you like arnolds encyclopedia

WO #1 : Chest + Back
Flat bench: 15 rep warm, 10 reps, 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps 4 reps
(While supersetting) Lat pulldown behind the neck (wide grip): 5 sets of 10
Incline dumbell press: 10, 8, 8, 6
While supersetting close grip lat pulldown: 4 sets of 10
4 sets dumbell flys 10,8,8,6
4 sets Parrell bar dips 15,10,8,8
4 sets t-bar rows (with strait bar in courner, not freewieght machine) 15,10,8,8
4 sets of 10 reps bent over barbell rows
4 sets of 10 seated close grip rows (possibly supersetting last two sets of BB and seated rows)
4 sets of 12 Str8 arm pullovers (hold for stretch)
ABS:
3 sets of 20-30 reps on machine crunch
3 sets of 20-30 seated leg tucks
3 sets of 20 on oblique machine

WO #2: shoulders + upper arms (on alt days do lower forearms)
Behind the neck military press: 15 rep warm , 10,8,8,6
(Superset) dumbell laterals 4 sets 0f 8
Front military press: 10,8,8,6
(superset) bentover DB laterals 4 sets of 8
Upright BB rows: 4 sets of 10
(superset) Seated str8 arm cable crossover 4 sets of 10
standing BB curl: 15,10,6,4
Superset: Laying tricep BB extentions 15,10,6,4
Alt DB curl: 4 sets of 8
Superset: Tricep pushdows 4 sets of 8
Concentration curls off of leg while seated: 4 sets of 8
Superset: single DB tricep EXt overhead while seated 4 sets of 12
Abs:
Hanging rev crunches: 20,15,12,12
Seated leg tucks: 3 sets of 25
oblique machine superseted with the crunch machine 2 sets each x 20 reps


Here are some of my personal records:
Deadlift: 530 box, 495 BB
Squat: 405 X 3 (usually only go to 385x4)
LegPress(freewieght): 1170x4 (26 45lb plates)
Powerclean: 255x1
Powerclean+Press: 205x3
BB curl: 135x3 (cheated alil)




So i guess im kinda just bullshiting around on here but whats a decent cycle for someone of my stats? i have quite a few friends who juice and im not going to take what they take (one budd is on a 550sust/300tren cycle).

To be honest I wont be taking it til june/july so im going to want to cut up a bit. Im shooting for something like this...

(still deciding what test to use)

Sust/or test E 500mg-10 weeks
masteron 400mg-last 6 weeks
Test prop 500mg-last 2 weeks
[Edit: Im thinking of running prop the last 2 weeks so that way i can run PCT 3-4 days after my last shot, also to learn what i feels like to shoot prop ed or eod for my future cycles]

Ill prob run an ECA stack with yohimbine the last 4 weeks aswell just to cut up even more.

PCT nolvadex etc...

...another question: I have a-dex onhand from last time i bought research chems. Should i use it anytime during my cycle to cut down on bloat and estrogen?

[verino]

you said that your not going to take what your friends take but you want to take sust which your friends take?

[donberry427]

you said that your not going to take what your friends take but you want to take sust which your friends take?

Dont mistake me for a newb bro. Ive been around this shit for 4 years now and have done plenty of research on everything to deal with AAS, SERMS, PCT, etc....

I was just letting everyone know i dont want to do tren or deca or anything with horrible sides. ...sorry i wasnt more clear

....Oh and i forgot to mention im 25 in 13 days

[verino]

ohh ok misunderstood you bro my mistake!

yeah id stick with the sust or test e at 500 a week. looks like you have everything in check so goodluck!

[donberry427]

my only beef with running just test is loosing the gains after pct. ..granted i blow up on anything i take, and i would bet i could gain 10lbs lean mass.... oh well like i just read "you gotta walk before you can run" guess i need to follow those guidelines... im just kinda anxious

[verino]

well if you train hard, rest and eat properly still after pct then i see no issue keeping most gains. You may have to come to terms with loosing some gains because it most likely will happen.

[verino]

did you mean for the last two weeks of the cycle you want to cut out which ever test you use and switch to prop so you can start PCT faster?

[donberry427]

did you mean for the last two weeks of the cycle you want to cut out which ever test you use and switch to prop so you can start PCT faster?

yes. I also want to feel what the prop feels like and what it feels like to inject ED or EOD (prob EOD). ... I dont see a prob with this do you? test is test

[verino]

yeah its fine just make sure you stop whichever test you use enough time for the half life to not be an issue for PCT. so two weeks on prop sounds perfect.