Recommendations??

**jgarcia05** · 09-05-2008, 04:07 AM

Hey, I'm new to this and I was thinking of using either test or decca? I am currently 155pounds and im 5'8 and I have 16.6% BF.....I just want to know which substance is better for me because I would like to gain some mass but not to much and also get cut up but of course I would like to gain the muscle first and loose the body fat. So which is best for me and what type of meals I should eat and also how many mg should I start with, Like I said I would like to get opinions from everyone am a starter and I have friends that do it but everyone does it different?

**stallion_1** · 09-05-2008, 04:21 AM

1.u need to lower ur bf% to at least 14 % or else ull have estrogen issues.
2.u never do a deca only cycle. or else ull get deca dick

**jgarcia05** · 09-05-2008, 04:26 AM

Thanx, for the quick response. Do you know of any meal plans and how much mg should I do? Are you saying I should do test before anything???

Originally Posted by stallion_1

1.u need to lower ur bf% to at least 14 % or else ull have estrogen issues.
2.u never do a deca only cycle. or else ull get deca dick

**stallion_1** · 09-05-2008, 04:32 AM

yes for a first cycle do like 500 mg per week of test enanthate for 10 weeks and something like dbol for like 4 weeks to kickstart ur cycle. followed by pct.but make sure to lower ur bf beforehand.

**one8nine** · 09-05-2008, 09:24 AM

Thanx, for the quick response. Do you know of any meal plans

diet
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http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php

and how much mg should I do? Are you saying I should do test before anything???

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**bbuilder** · 09-05-2008, 06:35 PM

At 155 personally I wouldn't touch juice. Build more naturally with correct diet, and exercise. When you start hitting plateaus, then think about it.

**FullMoonHowlingWolf** · 09-06-2008, 07:06 AM

Welcome to AR! There's no magic is a needle!

PT · 09-06-2008, 11:54 AM

welcome bro

**natureboy** · 09-06-2008, 03:15 PM

Welcome

**jgarcia05** · 09-07-2008, 03:28 PM

Thanx for welcome guys! Also thanx for your input, I put that am 155 what I ment was that I am 165 sorry and also am 30 so I would like to do it now b4 I get any older.