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01-07-2007, 06:57 AM #1
Israel might use nukes against Iran
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...5177_1,00.html
I hope its just big talk to scare Iran because I dont se how any country could be that stupid.
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01-07-2007, 12:43 PM #2
I think sabre-rattling sums it up best.
Yet why would using a nuke to penetrate beyond the bunker be wrong? Of course using it in conventional warfare would be inane but do you think a conventional warhead would suffice to inflict the blow?
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01-07-2007, 02:17 PM #3Originally Posted by Prada
Not to mention the centrifue facility that is the target is not producing anything dangerous. If they want to highly enrichen uranium they need to get alot more centrifuges and they need to connect them in different ways. Those modifications would be blatantly obvious to the IAEA inspectors. They cant sneak produce weapons grade uranium there.
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01-08-2007, 03:02 PM #4Originally Posted by Prada
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01-07-2007, 12:44 PM #5Junior Member
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Originally Posted by johan
I see your point about how stupid using nukes would be but a couple of good bunker busting bombs on their nuke reactors would suit me just find!
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01-07-2007, 12:44 PM #6
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01-07-2007, 12:48 PM #7
supplement to original article
http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle....5310%2C00.html
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01-07-2007, 01:12 PM #8
I dont see anything wrong with training and preparing for the worst. Every nation on earth trains its military and tactical operations for possible scenarios.
Having said that I must say that a nuke strike on Iran would take out the trash but would effectively radiate Israel as well. So in my humble opinion this should only be considered upon immanent nuclear attack from Iran.
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01-07-2007, 01:38 PM #9Originally Posted by singern
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01-07-2007, 01:16 PM #10
What is Isreal's nuke capabilities? I know they have nukes, but do they have what it would take to wipe out the middle east?
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01-07-2007, 01:17 PM #11
Maybe that would solve global warming.
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01-07-2007, 01:31 PM #12Anabolic Member
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A nuclear attack would certainly draw a ton of criticism from the world community. The likelihood that Iran would not be the only country to suffer consequences from such an attack is too high. You have to take into consideration the "fall out" and other inevitable after effects of a nuclear attack.
I don't think such an attack would at all be in Israels' best interest and if there has been any talk of such an attack, I think that is all it is...just talk.
Now a conventional airstrike would be more likely and I certainly believe such an attack is very much on the tables. If you remember, Israel took the same action against Iraq in the early 80's shortly after Iraq harnessed nuclear capabilities and displayed its hatred towards Israel as well.
I believe the country has every right to protect itself and it's people and with all the rhetoric that has come from Iran's leader about how Israel doesn't have the right to exist and the country will be wiped off the face of the planet, they need to take these threats seriously, especially now that Iran has now harnessed nuclear capabilities.
WWIII, here we come.
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01-07-2007, 02:22 PM #13Originally Posted by shrpskn
Remember there is a world of difference betwen having a reactor and having a weapon. The Iraqi reactor back in the 80's would never be able to produce weapons grade plutonium like Israel claimed. Simply because of its design. Bombing it was stupid.
Any country should be able to protect themself I agree with that. But that country should better be 100% sure that the target they are bombing can be used to make weapons.
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01-07-2007, 03:05 PM #14
If that happens every single nuclear force on the planet would go on full alert. The UN will utterly condemn Israel and I could easily see an army of the combined arab and muslim states wiping Israel off the map.
Yeah, World War 3 here we come!
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01-07-2007, 03:56 PM #15Originally Posted by Flagg
Just imagine how hard it would be for the current us friendly pakistani president to remain in power. If israel go first and drop a nuke then who knows what pakistan will do.
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01-07-2007, 01:37 PM #16Originally Posted by Ufa
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01-07-2007, 04:51 PM #17
The day I will see the Arab wiping out Israel will be the day, pigs will be Hallal
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01-07-2007, 04:57 PM #18Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
Israel isn't all powerful you know.
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01-07-2007, 05:05 PM #19Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by Flagg
A majority of their military arsenal is supplied by the west...
They certainly have troubles within their own boarders and neighbors, but that location of the world has been in termoil since biblical times.
If Israel is attacked on a large scale spectrum, I'm certain the west will intervene...with that in mind, I think they are plenty powerful. JMHO.
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01-07-2007, 05:11 PM #20
i believe that if iran gets nukes the nukes will be used on israel by some terrorist organization and hopefully israel will be able to strike back with a nuclear sub or something. so if iran gets close to getting nuclear weapons then yea, israel should strike first. i mean their president has already stated that they will destroy israel in the near future, and given missles to hezbollah to use against israel.
WW III, i just hope its televised
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01-07-2007, 06:21 PM #21Originally Posted by zodiac666
As much as I am against war of any kind, I will be the first to approve a strike against them when the time comes.
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01-07-2007, 06:31 PM #22
For arguments sake, if this was to start WW 3, who would you blame for that? Israel or Iran?
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01-07-2007, 06:45 PM #23Originally Posted by Flagg
It is well known across the Muslim/Arab world that Ahmenajad sees himself as the savior of Islam, whos goal is to unite the middle east in one big Islamic nation. The true horror will come when he has his hands on a nuke, because he will use it without hesitation.
So the aggressor as it stands is clear to me.
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01-07-2007, 06:52 PM #24
See it's a double edged sword.
Israel feels like they will HAVE to make the first hit...if they dont then Iran certainly will.
But the tragedy is either action will surely going to start one humungous bloody war.
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01-08-2007, 12:53 AM #25Originally Posted by singern
All the Gulf oil rich countries backed saddam with all their money in the 80's to stop the spread of iran into becoming "one big islamic nation" and beleive me although its easy to pay some peasants 5-bucks each to dance up and down infront of a camera and support iran everytime they make a threat claim and act like saviours, nobody in arabia wants top be united under iran as one nation in anyway!!
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01-15-2007, 01:13 AM #26Originally Posted by singern
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01-15-2007, 06:25 AM #27Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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01-15-2007, 06:40 AM #28Originally Posted by zodiac666
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01-15-2007, 08:30 AM #29Originally Posted by zodiac666
USA supported usama during the soviet-afghani war. Why didnt usa give usama nukes?
Just goes to show that even democratic nations supports terrorists when it suits them. Doesnt mean the supporting nation is insane. Also it doesnt matter how big a mouth ahmajedinahowthe****itsspelled has, even if iran had nukes it wouldnt be his to give away. The ayatholla seems a bit more sane and rational atleast.
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01-15-2007, 09:00 AM #30Originally Posted by zodiac666
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01-15-2007, 02:09 PM #31Originally Posted by mcpeepants
Well simply put because Iran doesnt consider Hezbolah, AlQaida, Hamas and others to be terrorists. They are considered by Ahmenajad, and the Ayatollah to be "Heros of Islam"
Ahmenajad has already stated publicly he will give Nuke technology to any Islamic nation that wants it, and I belive him.
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01-16-2007, 06:40 PM #32Originally Posted by singern
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01-08-2007, 01:21 AM #33
Arabs had all the time to attack them they did and lost!
Israel is now an economic partner with the Arab world, they have to deal with them, wiping them out, will only hurt them, they know it very well
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01-08-2007, 02:00 AM #34
Why even worry untill we have proof iran is trying to get a nuke or atleast have the capacity to make one.
As of today there is no proof they want one and they are far away from having the capacity to build one.
Ahmanuttyjad will soon be gone anyway and lets hope he will be replaced by someone a bit more moderate.
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01-08-2007, 10:38 AM #35Originally Posted by johan
Combined with the fiery rederic of the Iranian leadership toward Israel, 1+1 will always =2
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01-08-2007, 11:34 AM #36Originally Posted by singern
Got any news article so I can read up on the IAEA beeing kicked out? I havent been following news since around mid december or so.
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01-08-2007, 11:52 AM #37Originally Posted by johan
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01-08-2007, 12:31 PM #38
if they nuked each other wouldnt that solve like all the problems?
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01-10-2007, 04:21 AM #39Member
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Don't count on Arab states or Turkey to 'help' the US or Israel in any attack against Iran, including flyover privilidges..if they're worried about it, they'll just buy their own nukes from Pakistan or NKorea rather than risking nuclear fallout..Pakistan has nukes and their intelligence agents help the taliban; doesn't mean the taliban is getting nukes or that they even want them.
We have discussed the 'wipe out Israel' comments before in this forum-Iran has clarified these comments as indicating a need for regime change in Palestine or abolishing the zionist regime; wipe out that type of system, rejection of the 2 state solution or a 1 state solution in which a Jewish state exists-or whatever political context.. there is nothing to suggest he was talking about a nuclear attack on Israel so this pretext for an attack on Iran is just that-an excuse in order to maintain a nuclear monopoly.
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01-11-2007, 09:32 AM #40Originally Posted by eliteforce
History shows that counting on any Arab/Muslim country to do the right thing is just not going to happen, You want examples...
How many arab countries helped Kuait when attacked by Iraq, How many arab countries helped Lebanon when occupied by Syria, and this list goes on and on. It was the Devil worshiping Evil western world to save the day. Your welcome for that by the way
Now you want to talk about the Arab agenda for Jews....
Starting with the Grand mufti of Palestine who became a top general of Hitler, in return for the elimination of the jews, to todays Ahmenajad who is proudly and openly pursuing Hitlers agenda. There is no excuse or spin you can put on this.Last edited by singern; 01-11-2007 at 09:36 AM.
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