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    Tim Hardaway: 'I Hate Gay People'

    Tim Hardaway: 'I Hate Gay People'
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    02/15/07
    (CBS4) MIAMI Former Miami Heat superstar Tim Hardaway told a local sports radio show that he "hates gay people," and he's gotten a lot of peoples' attention especially in South Florida.

    "Disgusting. Having grown up in northern florida, dealing with racism there and desegregating of schools up there,
    it's unfortunate you still hear things like that on the radio," one man told CBS4's Art Barron outside of a Coral Gables carwash that uses Hardaway's name as a draw. The manager of the carwash was away and unavailable for comment.

    Hardaway made the comments while he was being interviewed by Dan Le Batard on 790 the Ticket Wednesday afternoon.

    The five time All Star was asked how he would deal with a gay teammate.

    "First of all I wouldn't want him on my team," said Hardaway. "Second of all, if he was on my team I would really distance myself from him because I don't think that's right and I don't think he should be in the locker room when we're in the locker room."

    Le Batard took Hardaway to task, pointing out that his comments were 'flatly homophobic' and bigoted, but that only seemed to stir up the former point guard.

    "Well, you know, I hate gay people," Hardaway said in response to Le Batard. "I let it be known I don't like gay people. I don't like to be around gay people. I'm homophobic. It shouldn't be in the world, in the United States, I don't like it."

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    tim has his opinion and is entitled to it. now i dont agree with him as i could care less what sexual orientation anyone is. However i will say that this is something that is different then most work conditions. if i were changing in a room with naked women wouldnt that make them uncomfortable? im a straight guy and i know as a man there is no turning off of those sexual feelings. i see boobies i get excited. john ameche is a man, albeit a gay man....he gets excited seeing penis.....i wouldnt feel so comfortable knowing that the guy next to me is dreaming about my wang.

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    has Tim been attending klan rallies. if he changed gay to black and homophic to racist, i dont' think he would feel that same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpeepants
    has Tim been attending klan rallies. if he changed gay to black and homophic to racist, i dont' think he would feel that same way.
    he understands what he has said. You may not like it, and it obviously not a PC thing to say, but he has the right to his own opinion just as you do to yours............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    he understands what he has said. You may not like it, and it obviously not a PC thing to say, but he has the right to his own opinion just as you do to yours............
    i'm just pointing out what he is saying is the same thing that was being said about black players when they tried to integrate into basketball, baseball, football etc.

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    He has since apologized..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpeepants
    i'm just pointing out what he is saying is the same thing that was being said about black players when they tried to integrate into basketball, baseball, football etc.
    Racism takes many forms. The only group that it is politically correct to abuse these days are Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    i see boobies i get excited. john ameche is a man, albeit a gay man....he gets excited seeing penis.....i wouldnt feel so comfortable knowing that the guy next to me is dreaming about my wang.
    Oh, brother . . .

    I've seen lots of "wangs" and pretty much, you've seen one, you've seen 'em all.
    Unless yours is significantly improved on anything commonly seen in porno flicks, you're giving yourself too much credit. Nobody is going to dream about your John Thomas.



    Sheesh . . . next you'll be telling me that all gays wear women's panties and makeup, and are excellent cooks and know all about opera & shop at Neiman Marcus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    he understands what he has said. You may not like it, and it obviously not a PC thing to say, but he has the right to his own opinion just as you do to yours............
    Of course he has the right to his opinion.

    And everyone else has the right to express their opinion of his opinion, especially if he voices his opinion in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    Oh, brother . . .

    I've seen lots of "wangs" and pretty much, you've seen one, you've seen 'em all.
    Unless yours is significantly improved on anything commonly seen in porno flicks, you're giving yourself too much credit. Nobody is going to dream about your John Thomas.



    Sheesh . . . next you'll be telling me that all gays wear women's panties and makeup, and are excellent cooks and know all about opera & shop at Neiman Marcus.
    You mean they dont ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    And everyone else has the right to express their opinion of his opinion, especially if he voices his opinion in public.
    100% agree with that Tock!

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    NBA Banishes Tim Hardaway From All-Star Game After Anti-Gay Remarks

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    The NBA banished Tim Hardaway from All-Star weekend in Las Vegas because of his anti-gay remarks.

    Hardaway, who played in five All-Star games during the 1990s, was already in Las Vegas and scheduled to make a series of public appearances this week on behalf of the league. But after saying, "I hate gay people" during a radio interview, commissioner David Stern stepped in.

    "It is inappropriate for him to be representing us given the disparity between his views and ours," Stern said in a statement Thursday.

    Hardaway apologized for his comments, which came a week after John Amaechi became the first former NBA player to say he was gay.

    "As an African-American, I know all too well the negative thoughts and feelings hatred and bigotry cause," Hardaway said Thursday in a statement issued by his agent. "I regret and apologize for the statements that I made that have certainly caused the same kinds of feelings and reactions.

    "I especially apologize to my fans, friends and family in Miami and Chicago. I am committed to examining my feelings and will recognize, appreciate and respect the differences among people in our society," he said. "I regret any embarrassment I have caused the league on the eve of one of their greatest annual events."

    Hardaway represented the NBA in Las Vegas this week at a Habitat for Humanity event and a fitness promotion. The former U.S. Olympian was originally scheduled to be an assistant coach at a wheelchair game Thursday night and later appear at the fan-oriented Jam Session.

    "I don't need Tim's comments to realize there's a problem," Amaechi told The Associated Press in a phone interview earlier in the day. "People said that I should just shut up and go away — now they have to rethink that."

    On a Miami radio show Wednesday, Hardaway was asked how he would interact with a gay teammate.

    "First of all, I wouldn't want him on my team," the former Miami Heat star said. "And second of all, if he was on my team, I would, you know, really distance myself from him because, uh, I don't think that is right. I don't think he should be in the locker room while we are in the locker room."

    When show host Dan Le Batard told Hardaway those comments were "flatly homophobic" and "bigotry," the player continued.

    "You know, I hate gay people, so I let it be known. I don't like gay people and I don't like to be around gay people," he said. "I'm homophobic. I don't like it. It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States."

    Hardaway also said if he did find out that a teammate was gay, he would ask for the player to be removed from the team.

    "Something has to give," Hardaway said. "If you have 12 other ballplayers in your locker room that's upset and can't concentrate and always worried about him in the locker room or on the court or whatever, it's going to be hard for your teammates to win and accept him as a teammate."

    Later that night, Hardaway apologized during a telephone interview with WSVN-TV in Miami.

    "Yes, I regret it. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said I hate gay people or anything like that," he said. "That was my mistake."

    Two major gay and lesbian groups denounced Hardaway's remarks.

    "Hardaway's comments are vile, repulsive, and indicative of the climate of ignorance, hostility and prejudice that continues to pervade sports culture," said Neil Giuliano, president of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. "And by apologizing not for his bigotry, but rather for giving voice to it, he's reminding us that this ugly display is only the tip of a very large iceberg."

    Said Matt Foreman, president of the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force: "Hardaway is a hero to thousands of young people. And that's what makes his comments so troubling. Sadly, his words simply put the pervasive homophobia in the NBA on the table."

    Amaechi, who detailed his life in his recent autobiography "Man in the Middle," hoped his coming out would be a catalyst for intelligent discourse.

    "His words pollute the atmosphere," Amaechi said. "It creates an atmosphere that allows young gays and lesbians to be harassed in school, creates an atmosphere where in 33 states you can lose your job, and where anti-gay and lesbian issues are used for political gain. It's an atmosphere that hurts all of us, not just gay people."

    Amaechi taped a spot Thursday for PBS' gay and lesbian program "In the Life." He said the anti-gay sentiment remains despite Hardaway's apology.

    "It's vitriolic, and may be exactly what he feels," he said. "Whether he's honest or not doesn't inoculate us from his words. It's not progress to hear hateful words."

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    well I don't have anything against gay people at all but I would not be to comfortable being in the same locker room or showering that's not cool yeah everyone has a right but where do we draw the line. when is enough, enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by realtalk
    well I don't have anything against gay people at all but I would not be to comfortable being in the same locker room or showering that's not cool yeah everyone has a right but where do we draw the line. when is enough, enough
    Well, let me ask you this . . .

    Would you be comfortable knowing that if you were showering with a bunch of guys in a locker room that chances were pretty good that at least one of them had gay tendencies, but had never told anyone about them?

    How often do guys shower with each other, anyway? I haven't in years and years . . .

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    Love the man for who he is, not his behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavsluva
    Love the man for who he is, not his behavior.
    if a man is not defined by his behavior, what prey tell is he defined by?

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    Tim Hardaway was always an ass. I respect him for being honest, though. It seems like honesty has gone the way of the Dodo these days. I'd rather someone hate me to my face than behind closed doors any day.

    +1 on the shower comment. You wouldn't expect a girl to be forced to use the guy's locker room/shower. A guy is a guy, and there's all kinds of testosterone flowing through his veins. We've been taught since day one that we aren't supposed to see the "naughty parts" of the people we are attracted to. So, for gays, its naked guys that they aren't involved with.

    And no, Tock, that isn't a generalization about gays. It is a generalization about DUDES.

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    i think the idea gays like to look at cocks so much is ridiculous. think about it, if we had tits do you really think we'd like staring at girls tits so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    Oh, brother . . .

    I've seen lots of "wangs" and pretty much, you've seen one, you've seen 'em all.
    Unless yours is significantly improved on anything commonly seen in porno flicks, you're giving yourself too much credit. Nobody is going to dream about your John Thomas.

    so you dont excited by seeing a naked man? i never get tired of seeing boobies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    so you dont excited by seeing a naked man? i never get tired of seeing boobies!
    yeah but if we had boobs they wouldn't be so exciting would they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    yeah but if we had boobs they wouldn't be so exciting would they?

    huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    I'm saying boobs are exciting cuz women have them and we don't...I don't think boobs would be so awesome if we had a pair too.

    ie gays see penises multiple times everyday, they have one...therefore the excitement about them isn't going to be the same
    They are sexually attracted to different parts...doood. Thats what makes them gay!!

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    every time you post you lower yourself to new levels of stupidity "doood".

    read my post again and see if you can understand what I was trying to get across to you thicko

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    Homophobic's are insecure and I sometimes wonder if they don't
    have latent homosexual tendencies.

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    most of them actually do, something like 70% of them anyway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    I'm saying boobs are exciting cuz women have them and we don't...I don't think boobs would be so awesome if we had a pair too.

    ie gays see penises multiple times everyday, they have one...therefore the excitement about them isn't going to be the same
    men have nipples and men technically do have breasts......

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    men have nipples and men technically do have breasts......
    Well you can get surgery to sort that out dontcha know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    every time you post you lower yourself to new levels of stupidity "doood".

    read my post again and see if you can understand what I was trying to get across to you thicko
    Oh ok Einstein.

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    I'm sure Hardaway needs to go to "rehab" for his "sickness", just like the actor from Greys Anatomy was said to have gone into "rehab" for his incorrect thinking. Perhaps North Korea and China are really on to something...ya know they have "re-education camps" for those who don't agree with or think like the government wants them to.

    What do ya think guys and girls...good idea or what. Send all Christians, conservatives, hetrosexual, non-pedophile tolerant, people to re-education camps.?

    Feel free to add other groups you feel should be re-educated into correct thinking.

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    Meh, he's entitled to his personal opinion, as long as he keeps it personal. But it is very stupid of him to come out publicly and say something like that especially for someone who's voice can be heard, and he deserves the punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teabagger
    What do ya think guys and girls...good idea or what. Send all Christians, conservatives, hetrosexual, non-pedophile tolerant, people to re-education camps.?

    Feel free to add other groups you feel should be re-educated into correct thinking.
    How do they teach chimpanzees to type, really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ufa
    Homophobic's are insecure and I sometimes wonder if they don't
    have latent homosexual tendencies.
    if you hate blacks your racist....if you believe men are superior to women your sexist. these words recognize the hate or bigotry for blacks and women. but if you hate gays your homophobic? the word means "scared of gays" that doesnt make sense to me. im not scared of gay people i just get grossed out by guys doing each other. homophobia is a made up word and doesnt actually exist. hatred of gays exists, not being scared of them. its true that generally people who hate others have some self hatred and thats not just in the case of hating gays. IE hitler was into the master race with blue eyes and blonde hair but he himself had brown eyes and brown hair and killed those that werent part oif his "master race". Rush Limbaugh says all drug users should be killed then gets addicted to oxycontin and uses viagra regularly. the staunch conservative priest who condemns others and who vowed celebacy gets caught with a man/woman or child......

    me saying that homosexuality grosses me out does not make me homophobic. cow turds gross me out, am i secretly in love with that? no. i would never preclude a gay man from advancing in the workplace or becoming an elected official. and i believe gays should have equal marriage rights. but the idea of a gay man staring at my naked body creeps me out, the idea of butt sex between 2 guys grosses me out. thats all. im sorry im not a fruity P.C. cry baby its just the way i feel.

    OK SO CARLOS IS THE ONLY GAY MAN IM SCARED OF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    How do they teach chimpanzees to type, really?
    That was semi-funny...but you should be able to answer that question yourself smurf-boy.

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    why does everyone think it has anything to do with Smurfs.

    S-N-R-F (an abbreviation of Sunroof - a private joke between my friends and i)

    S-M-U-R-F (a small blue man the height of two apples who lives in a mushroom)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    I'm saying boobs are exciting cuz women have them and we don't...I don't think boobs would be so awesome if we had a pair too.

    ie gays see penises multiple times everyday, they have one...therefore the excitement about them isn't going to be the same
    boobs are sexy because we are wired to think of them as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    boobs are sexy because we are wired to think of them as such.
    And no one thinks boobs would be any less sexy if we had a nice pair of c cups ourselves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    if you hate blacks your racist....if you believe men are superior to women your sexist. these words recognize the hate or bigotry for blacks and women. but if you hate gays your homophobic? the word means "scared of gays" that doesnt make sense to me. im not scared of gay people i just get grossed out by guys doing each other. homophobia is a made up word and doesnt actually exist. hatred of gays exists, not being scared of them. its true that generally people who hate others have some self hatred and thats not just in the case of hating gays. IE hitler was into the master race with blue eyes and blonde hair but he himself had brown eyes and brown hair and killed those that werent part oif his "master race". Rush Limbaugh says all drug users should be killed then gets addicted to oxycontin and uses viagra regularly. the staunch conservative priest who condemns others and who vowed celebacy gets caught with a man/woman or child......

    me saying that homosexuality grosses me out does not make me homophobic. cow turds gross me out, am i secretly in love with that? no. i would never preclude a gay man from advancing in the workplace or becoming an elected official. and i believe gays should have equal marriage rights. but the idea of a gay man staring at my naked body creeps me out, the idea of butt sex between 2 guys grosses me out. thats all. im sorry im not a fruity P.C. cry baby its just the way i feel.

    OK SO CARLOS IS THE ONLY GAY MAN IM SCARED OF!
    Very good post biglouie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    And no one thinks boobs would be any less sexy if we had a nice pair of c cups ourselves?
    if you were attracted to men with boobs, you would be gay in my book.

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    Yeah, and everyone has the right to reveal how ignorant and fearful they are for the whole world to see (or for other ignorant/fearful people to chime in hatefully).


    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    Of course he has the right to his opinion.

    And everyone else has the right to express their opinion of his opinion, especially if he voices his opinion in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    if you were attracted to men with boobs, you would be gay in my book.

    WHAT? that has nothing at all to do with what I said.

    I said, if men had boobs I think we would be less obsessed with them, cuz we'd see ours all day. how are you all failing to understand this? its a pretty simple concept.

    the bits we find attractive about women are the differences right? the curves, nice round bums, boobs, hair etc....if we had tits ourselves we'd be less interested in them...thats all I'm saying.

    where u managed to find anything about being attracted to men with boobs in that I have no idea

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