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04-05-2007, 12:19 AM #1
Obama Bests Clinton in Primary Fundraising
It would seem that Obama has a true grass roots following, he had over 100K donars, 90% of whom gave less than $100 each. Also of note is that the Democrat candidates raised about $80 Million and the GOP candidates raised $50 Million. And you guys say that the GOP is the party of the rich.....
Obama Bests Clinton in Primary Fundraising
ABC News
April 4, 2007— ABC News has learned that the $23.5 million Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., raised for his presidential campaign for use in the primaries is more than that raised by the Democratic frontrunner, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.
Of the $26 million Clinton has raised in the first quarter of 2007 for her presidential campaign, approximately $20 million is to be used in the primaries and caucuses, sources told ABC News.
Clinton campaign officials cautioned that its campaign was still ascertaining how much of its $26 million raised is available for primary use.
Sources told ABC News that while that is accurate, roughly $20 million is designated for the primary — it could be slightly less or slightly more. Either way, Obama raised more primary cash than Clinton.
Newcomer Obama Bests Experienced Clinton
The remaining $6 million of the $26 million raised by Clinton is designated for use in the general election if the former first lady wins her party's nomination. Clinton also has slightly more than $10 million that she has transferred from her 2006 Senate campaign account.
Clinton has a distinct money advantage and leads in every national poll, but the fact that rookie Obama has bested a veteran like Clinton in many aspects of fundraising — he rasied $6.9 million on the Internet, for instance, compared with Clinton's $4.2 million — has stunned the political world.
"We're really humbled by the amazing outpouring of support," Obama told WLS Radio today. "It is broad-based — we did it without taking PAC money, without taking federal lobbyist money, so we feel really good about it."
Added a prominent supporter, Rep. Jesse Jackson, D-Ill., "This is a long road and a long process to the White House, but make no doubt about it, Barack Obama is driving the fastest car."
Individual Donors Put Obama on Top
Obama received donations from more than 100,000 donors, far surpassing any other candidate, including Clinton (50,000); Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., (45,000); former Sen. John Edwards, D-NC, (40,000); or former GOP Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (34,000).
And 90 percent of Obama's donors contributed $100 or less, as opposed to the presumbed larger percentage of Clinton donors who contributed the maximum contribution allowed by law, $2,300 per person per voting cycle.
"That means exponential growth is possible for him in a way that is not available to Hillary Clinton right now," explained Democratic strategist Joe Trippi. "[The Clintons] were counting on blowing everybody out this first quarter and sort of, like, slamming the door."
"That didn't happen," Trippi concluded.
The reaction this evening from Hillary Clinton's top fundraiser — who has made it his career to raise political money — was: money doesn't matter.
"Ultimately, forget the money. You've got to get votes," said Terry McAuliffe, Clinton's campaign chairman. "And right now, Hillary wins in that category. She wins every single poll today."
Obama told WLS today that as far as he's concerned, Clinton is still the frontrunner.
"When your name is Obama, you're always the underdog," he quipped.
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04-05-2007, 11:19 AM #2
Maybe the Dems just have more support thats all, which wouldnt surprise whatsoever at this point of time. Disenchantement is a b*tch at fundraising time.
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04-06-2007, 12:03 AM #3
hillary and obama may raise lots of money but they'll probably lose the general in a landslide. i'd like to live in the America that people are dreaming of where a black man or woman can run without having to worry about bigotry.
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04-06-2007, 12:47 PM #4Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-06-2007, 12:55 PM #5Originally Posted by mcpeepants
Women simply will not support other women or go out of their way to do anything but backstab. That is the only reason you'll never see a female president; it's not about qualifications, it's about image for female voters and women are nothing if not critical of other females.
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04-06-2007, 12:56 PM #6
And by the way, Obama isn't even black. He's 1/2 black at most.
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04-06-2007, 01:08 PM #7Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-06-2007, 02:43 PM #8Originally Posted by Logan13
I think people like the idea of voting for a women or a minority but when they hit that voting booth, those buried prejudices that the 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th amendments and the Civil Rights act can't remove will resurface.
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04-06-2007, 02:49 PM #9Originally Posted by Vinlander
moral of the story, it's hard to get rid of internal prejudices.
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04-06-2007, 02:51 PM #10Originally Posted by Vinlander
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04-06-2007, 02:53 PM #11Originally Posted by Logan13
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04-06-2007, 04:22 PM #12Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-06-2007, 04:49 PM #13Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-06-2007, 04:49 PM #14Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-06-2007, 04:59 PM #15Originally Posted by Vinlander
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04-06-2007, 05:07 PM #16Member
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Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-06-2007, 06:25 PM #17Originally Posted by Logan13
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04-06-2007, 06:31 PM #18Originally Posted by Vinlander
No I don't have numbers to back it up.
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04-06-2007, 06:34 PM #19Originally Posted by Vinlander
I'm currently in Colorado getting my masters degree in mechanical engineering
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04-06-2007, 06:35 PM #20Originally Posted by alphaman
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04-06-2007, 06:40 PM #21Member
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Originally Posted by mcpeepants
Well, if that's true -- I'm sorry to hear it. But taking the vast majority of your posts into consideration, I'd assume that your perception is a bit skewed....
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04-06-2007, 06:46 PM #22Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-06-2007, 07:31 PM #23Originally Posted by Logan13
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04-06-2007, 10:17 PM #24Originally Posted by Tock
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04-06-2007, 11:28 PM #25Originally Posted by Vinlander
mcpeepants wrote:
I would like to live in an America where better qualified minorities don't get passed over for jobs and promotions by underqualified members of the majority.
Logan responded:
The reverse happens much more often. Quotas must be filled, and these quotas do not include "heterosexual white males".......
Logan seems to be saying that more often than not, hiring quotas exclude heterosexual white males. I'm curious to know, since according to him this is a commonplace occurance, which companies -- specifically -- exclude heterosexual white males. If he can't name any such enterprise, then all we can suppose is that he is, once again, guilty of saying things that are not so.
Here in Texas, even among the many gay businesses I am familiar with, I can't think of a single business that would discriminate against a heterosexual white male. I can say the same for businesses in Oklahoma and Arkansas.
I can, however, say that discrimination in favor of heterosexual white men is much more common, having witnessed such things firsthand, and being acquainted with many prejudiced employers. Ya, attitudes in this neck of the woods are still, um, backwards . . .
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04-07-2007, 11:40 AM #26Originally Posted by Tock
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04-07-2007, 12:26 PM #27Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-07-2007, 12:33 PM #28Originally Posted by Tock
http://kipesquire.powerblogs.com/posts/1120668268.shtml
Wal-Mart Imposes Hiring Quotas on Its Lawyers
"Wal-Mart has informed the major law firms it hires — all 100 of them — that they must impose racial and gender quotas on the "relationship teams" it assigns to the mega-retailer:
The company's general counsel has told its top 100 law firms that at least one person of color and one woman must be among the top five relationship attorneys that handle its business."
Now apologize for your ignorance Tock ...........
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04-07-2007, 12:35 PM #29Originally Posted by alphaman
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04-07-2007, 12:36 PM #30Originally Posted by Vinlander
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04-07-2007, 12:38 PM #31Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-07-2007, 12:38 PM #32Originally Posted by Logan13
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04-07-2007, 12:40 PM #33Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-07-2007, 12:41 PM #34Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-07-2007, 12:41 PM #35Originally Posted by Logan13
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04-07-2007, 12:43 PM #36Originally Posted by Vinlander
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04-07-2007, 12:44 PM #37Originally Posted by Vinlander
I'm came here when I was four years old so I didn't have a choice plus a like living in America and am an American citizen. I'm only pointing out that just because a minority is hired doesn't mean a more qualified white person was passed over.
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04-07-2007, 12:47 PM #38Originally Posted by mcpeepants
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04-07-2007, 12:48 PM #39Originally Posted by scriptfactory
I do not think that Vin was referring to blacks whose families were brought over here. I believe that he meant mcpeepants, who is over here from Uganda. And in all honesty, having roomed with students from Niger, he probably appreciates what this country has to offer more than you or I do Script.
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04-07-2007, 12:48 PM #40Originally Posted by Vinlander
I have a BS in Mechanical Engineering so I could find a engineering job if I wasn't going to grad school right now. I've worked as civil engineering intern, research assistant, technical assistant, in clean rooms, damage testing, with mathcad, matlab, nastran, patran, proengineer, and I'm starting to work with natural gas engines at the lab.
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