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05-15-2009, 06:10 PM #1
Will America effectively "go broke"
MSN Article
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...?ucpg=2#uc2Lst
National Debt Chart
http://www.federalbudget.com/
Do you guys think there is a very real chance of this happening and if it happens, what is to become of America and then the world? OR, will the rest of the World simply carry on loaning money? I mean sooner or later someone is going to say "you know **** it, let's take back what we can before they go completely under".
I mean surely you cant just keep printing more money off, borrowing more money...sooner or later the rest of the world is going to stop the lending.
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05-15-2009, 06:17 PM #2
America is already broke
Actually were in debt
Were spending money that is barrowed from other countries
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05-15-2009, 06:21 PM #3
Yes you're in debt but it's just being assumed that countries like China will continue to bail you out and one day they will start asking for some money back.
The Government tells you to BUY, BUY, BUY, spends your tax on stuff you dont need and when the shit hits the fan, expects the Tax Payer again to sort the problem out.
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05-15-2009, 06:28 PM #4
I agree that we are screwed til someone in the goverment stops borrowing-before countries stop lending. So many people here are buying guns and ammo rt now its hard to find either . If we cant see this as a sign .............. Hell if I didnt have a family here Id move somewhere else
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05-15-2009, 06:43 PM #6
^ I dont know where you are but is it like this throughout the whole US or just the south
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05-19-2009, 06:42 AM #8
This is far from the truth. We're not spending money from other countries. Do you know what the federal bank is, or how it works? If you do some research, that is how we get our money, and why we're in debt, and it's literally impossible to get out of debt with this system.
Federal banks = neverending debt.
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05-19-2009, 08:22 AM #9
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05-19-2009, 10:00 AM #10
eventually we'll just default on all that debt...say the old bonds and such are no good and start over. Except the gvmt will have to cut itself in half overnight...major economic shit the bed situation. maybe 10 or 20 years off now though...enjoy the matrix
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05-19-2009, 10:13 AM #11Anabolic Member
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^^we'll never default. We'll just monetize the debt.
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05-19-2009, 10:47 AM #12
saying we'll just monetize the debt, is like the big black dude in the cell with you saying..."I'm just gonna fvck you up the ass."
I'd rather they default, then it will be harder for the new post chaper 11 gov from loaning money and creating this mess again.
One thing is for sure...we aren't paying it back at current dollar valuations. By the time Obama is done with his propsed budgets that's something like 2200 per year per tax payer just for the interest.
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05-19-2009, 10:53 AM #13Anabolic Member
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^^Haha, I'm saying I agree with it, but we won't default.
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11-13-2009, 06:06 AM #14
America?
U.S.A. never really ruled the world.
England , since many centuries, detains the power while The United States of America just carry out. The Vatican supports all the decisions in accordance with The British.
Like it or not, this is the situation we are living in.
Future?
Nothing will really change, IMO.
Even because, studying the past historical facts, nothing really never changed.
So, The Republic of China (R.O.C.) will simply take the room occupied now by U.S.A.
That's it.
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11-15-2009, 07:31 PM #16
the shortage of ammo seems to be over here in minnesota.. we were very sort for months but supplies seem to be returning to normal..
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