Public really happy with Obama and universal health care?

**Kratos** · 09-17-2009, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

the healthcare system as it stands will eventually bankrupt us.

republicans just use the socialism term to scare people

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I don't know if my selective deleting puts anyting into perspective?

**Kratos** · 09-17-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

because of the burden the uninsured put on everyone else.

and the burdon will be shifted to???

**Kratos** · 09-17-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dont wanna be old

I pay 135.00 a week for my medical from my job . 10 years ago I payed 0 .
I just happen to have 2 disabled children .
Take it up with your boss

I guess The Obama thing is stuck in my head ,true .
I watched the Michael Moore movie Sicko . It seemed to stick in my head .
That is the most horrible bias peice of crap ever made, unless compared to his other movies

I believe there is a small number of people on the street that need to be in institutions . Some are dangerous to others .
what the heck are you talking about? Do you have any idea how the system works when it comes to mental health?

I think there was something said some where that all men are created equal .
They may be Created equal, but beyond birth they need to provide their own lifestyle.
Give everyone health care .
Give everyone a house and car too by that logic

Statistics in Detriot are 3 in 10 are unemployed . That is people still receiving unemployment . I would bet even higher if you added people that benefits have expired .
Unemployment almost never ends thanks to Obama.
2 in 10 college grads are getting jobs . So now we have educated unemployed .
So, they'll go home to mom's house to crash for a little while. It was a similar situation when I got out of school.
I don't know the answer , I have insurance . But the coarse we going is now is not a good one .

When you get the facts to debate the issue, let me know. Cause nothing is making sense.

**Bull_Nuts** · 09-17-2009, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Flagg

Obama is all about change. Change for the better, etc. Most politicians throughout the West promise change, they promise what they will do that the other party wont do, and so on.

Change and promise, change and promise, change and promise.

How often do any of these silver tongued reptiles actually explain HOW they are going to enact this change?

It's amazing what you can sell to the public with a bit of rhetoric and everyone soaks it up, accepts everything said as gospel and never once asks "Hmm, how is he going to do that exactly?"

Ill keep my guns, freedom, and money....you can keep the CHANGE

**BgMc31** · 09-17-2009, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Bull_Nuts

Ill keep my guns, freedom, and money....you can keep the CHANGE

No threat to your right to own a gun, your freedom isn't in jeopardy...but I do agree your money is but that isn't a Obama thing, every party wants your money.

**Ernst** · 09-17-2009, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

every party wants your money.

Ain't that the truth.

**Bull_Nuts** · 09-23-2009, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

No threat to your right to own a gunfor the time being, your freedom isn't in jeopardyagain...for the time being...but I do agree your money is but that isn't a Obama thing, every party wants your money.and its increasing daily

bold

**BgMc31** · 09-23-2009, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bull_Nuts

bold

"For the time being" I don't have cancer. Could I get it? Yeah, but maybe I won't...

Nothing that you've noted has evidence of leading to such. Similar to my cancer analogy. My lifestyle wouldn't lead me to get cancer but I could still get it. I don't know. And nothing Obama has said indicated he wants to ban guns or take your freedom away.

**kickinit** · 09-23-2009, 08:14 PM

We all know the health care reform he wants is a TURD. If you don't know this please remove your head from the clouds.

Recently my grandfather went in for open heart surgery at 90yrs old. Came out with flying colors! Now with Obama care he would have been sent home to die. He put in alot in social security, retired LT.Commander, and still working and WHY the hell should he be left to die so a dead beat piece of shit that would rather live in a box BY CHOICE mind you so they can get free health care? My consititution doesnt say RIGHT TO HEALTH CARE anywhere in it!

**kickinit** · 09-23-2009, 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=BgMc31;4875273]"For the time being" I don't have cancer. Could I get it? Yeah, but maybe I won't...

Nothing that you've noted has evidence of leading to such. Similar to my cancer analogy. My lifestyle wouldn't lead me to get cancer but I could still get it. I don't know. And nothing Obama has said indicated he wants to ban guns or take your freedom away.[/QUOTE]

He isn't going to try and loose votes, come on man... Yeah thats the way to keep the public on your side, go to a NRA convention and say "I'm going to take your gun or TAX them so hard it will be impossible to keep" or better yet I didn't see him go to the old folks home and say "Hey, your all screwed, no care for you we are just going to let you die"

I don't think any public moron would do that. PLus I can go on and on and on about the wars and what he said and she said and go to past presidents but I kept this one in the scope of things.

**BgMc31** · 09-23-2009, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by kickinit

We all know the health care reform he wants is a TURD. If you don't know this please remove your head from the clouds.

Recently my grandfather went in for open heart surgery at 90yrs old. Came out with flying colors! Now with Obama care he would have been sent home to die. He put in alot in social security, retired LT.Commander, and still working and WHY the hell should he be left to die so a dead beat piece of shit that would rather live in a box BY CHOICE mind you so they can get free health care? My consititution doesnt say RIGHT TO HEALTH CARE anywhere in it!

Where in this so-called Obama care states that your grandfather would be sent home to die. That is more misinformation...

[QUOTE=kickinit;4875372]

Originally Posted by BgMc31

"For the time being" I don't have cancer. Could I get it? Yeah, but maybe I won't...

Nothing that you've noted has evidence of leading to such. Similar to my cancer analogy. My lifestyle wouldn't lead me to get cancer but I could still get it. I don't know. And nothing Obama has said indicated he wants to ban guns or take your freedom away.[/QUOTE]

He isn't going to try and loose votes, come on man... Yeah thats the way to keep the public on your side, go to a NRA convention and say "I'm going to take your gun or TAX them so hard it will be impossible to keep" or better yet I didn't see him go to the old folks home and say "Hey, your all screwed, no care for you we are just going to let you die"

I don't think any public moron would do that. PLus I can go on and on and on about the wars and what he said and she said and go to past presidents but I kept this one in the scope of things.

The NRA crowd didn't vote for him in the first place. You're still operating off of what ifs. If you don't trust the man, that's fine but stating what he will and will not do, is absurd. We don't know what he will do. I'm for giving the man a chance. I know you're not. That's your perogative, but don't make up things to fit your agenda.

**kickinit** · 09-24-2009, 10:20 PM

Read the bill.

**waverly07** · 09-25-2009, 04:03 AM

"Obama is all about change." Where are his promises and where is the Change. We are not able to see.
Colon Cleansing

**BgMc31** · 09-25-2009, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by kickinit

Read the bill.

I have...have you? Please post the section of the bill that would have sent your grandfather home to die without medical treatment. I eagerly await...

**Bull_Nuts** · 09-25-2009, 11:22 PM

Well...we all know what joe wilson said is true...

If he doesn't give it to illegals outright he will just grant them amnesty and then give it to them after he makes them citizens...then he will be able to call joe wilson a liar

If thats not enough they will still be able to parade across our borders go straight into the county hospitals and get all the free healthcare they want...or even secure themselves with a good ol anchor baby...

Hell...if neither of those routes works all you have to do is slip a border patrol officer a couple hundred