Online pornography to be blocked in the UK, announces David Cameron

[Lrodriguez]

I hate homophobes...

[Chicagotarsier]

It is an asset they cannot tax. Gov is nothing about the people but how much tax can be shuttled into private pockets.

However

It is called VPN (Virtual private network). 20 bucks a year and you get unfiltered access to everything. USA blocked the pirates bay...lol..yeah right. VPN away!

[lovbyts]

It is an asset they cannot tax. Gov is nothing about the people but how much tax can be shuttled into private pockets.

However

It is called VPN (Virtual private network). 20 bucks a year and you get unfiltered access to everything. USA blocked the pirates bay...lol..yeah right. VPN away!

Curios what VPN you use. I have been looking into it but the more I read the more confusing/choices there are.

[davesah1]

Curios what VPN you use. I have been looking into it but the more I read the more confusing/choices there are.

Private Internet Access works fine for me. 6$ a month. Very easy to use and you can constantly change your IP if your really paranoid. I'm chillin in Chicago right now

[Chicagotarsier]

privateinternetaccess

Honestly they all use the same service and piggyback on existing servers. I use this for getting to stuff outside a contry's firewall.

I do business and have offices in 5 countries. Each office has a Cisco VPN device and I do not go through browsers or other peoples equipment for the security. Anyone doing business would be wise to do the same in this day and age of snooping.

Curios what VPN you use. I have been looking into it but the more I read the more confusing/choices there are.

[spillybob]

this is silly.

[bass]

I watched porn in my younger days and didn't think much of it, but as I got older I find it offensive and disgusting as to how they portray sex and women. however, I am against any movement to block any free speech and yes including porn. having said that I think pornography should not be easily available to kids. can you imagine kids watching rape, incest, wife/husband cheating, child abuse, etc... they'll grow up thinking this is how life is!

[davesah1]

I watched porn in my younger days and didn't think much of it, but as I got older I find it offensive and disgusting as to how they portray sex and women. however, I am against any movement to block any free speech and yes including porn. having said that I think pornography should not be easily available to kids. can you imagine kids watching rape, incest, wife/husband cheating, child abuse, etc... they'll grow up thinking this is how life is!

But what about grand theft auto 5 and other video games of that nature and graphic movies? I don't think kids are as stupidly impressionable as people think. At least not at the age when they start whacking it to porn. Hopefully their parents instill that child abuse and incest is not OK at some point rather than porn dictating that.

[bass]

Dave, I have 10 kids, trust me when I say they can easily be influenced by what they see and hear.

[davesah1]

Dave, I have 10 kids, trust me when I say they can easily be influenced by what they see and hear.

touche bass.

I was never one those kids so sorry for the bias. I think the biggest influence on kids are their peers tho, especially close friends.

[bass]

^^^ not all kids are the same, you simply were lucky/wise not to be influenced by what you see/hear.

[Black]

If people are influenced by unrealistic things, that's their problem, not mine.

So many things in this world are already censored or federally monitored because of stupid people. If you can't tell right from wrong, you have no business playing this game of life.

[jesse4466]

Scary. Only parents should control this for those under 18. Govt needs to back off.

[CanisLupus]

Soon there won't be a more free country to move to, anyway. They all think we need a nanny.

[davidtheman100]

lol..

[davidtheman100]

Serial killers are heavily influenced by hardcore porn. It's everywhere. Who cares if you can't get your rocks off watching sum Milf get pounded anymore? Get a GF. A free country has NOTHING to do with whether you can watch porn or not. Hate when people use that line everytime a new law gets passed. With that said, i'm proud to be an American.

[lovbyts]

Serial killers are heavily influenced by hardcore porn. It's everywhere. Who cares if you can't get your rocks off watching sum Milf get pounded anymore? Get a GF. A free country has NOTHING to do with whether you can watch porn or not. Hate when people use that line everytime a new law gets passed. With that said, i'm proud to be an American.

Were there serial killers before the day of porn? I am pretty sure there was no porn back in the day of jack the ripper or Herman Webster Mudgett.

[davidtheman100]

Were there serial killers before the day of porn? I am pretty sure there was no porn back in the day of jack the ripper or Herman Webster Mudgett.

There are more now, and now they're worse. Now what Jack The Ripper did is dwarfed by what 20 year olds do at their college bc they've never been laid before and the only shit they've ever seen is unrealistically depicted pornography. People like Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy also heavily influenced by porn. Of corse there are still cases of non-porn related killings but that goes without saying.

[CanisLupus]

Respectfully... this is a stupid conversation.

If you don't like something. Don't do it. As long as it's not infringing on someone else's right to make that decision, it should be your right to chose. If you try to take the right to make that decision away from someone else, you are limiting their freedom or liberty.

Does murder break this rule? Sure. You have the right to decide whether you live or die.
Does rape? Yep.
Making Porn? No. Adult participants in porn made an adult decision, for whatever reasons they have, to make porn.
Watching porn? No. If anything it takes away some of the control that the opposite sex may have over you. It may warp your perspective, but once again, who the F are you to make that decision for me?

How about the right to reproduce. What if I told you, that you have a genetic predisposition toward violence (or baldness, or your IQ is too low, or you are too short, etc), so you will not be allowed to have children. It's for the greater good of the human race, of course. Future generations will thank you. That would be taking away your freedom, and your chance to live just like everyone else. How is this so hard to understand?

If you think someone should be making all of these decisions for you, then who do you think is wise enough to make them? A king or queen? The general population? Two wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner...

Follow the simple rule above, and there will be freedom, anything less is ... well ... less freedom. You cannot prevent serial killers. Psychopaths will be born regardless. History is littered with mass murderers. Many of them became leaders, not because of their ability to lead, but because of how far they would go to maintain power. Look at the warlords in Africa today. Mass murderers. Is it because they watch porn?

People like Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy also heavily influenced by porn. Of corse there are still cases of non-porn related killings but that goes without saying.

This is a deductive fallacy.

When Dahmer was asked what motivated him he said "Heavy drinking, pornography, and masturbation". Why not focus on the drinking and masturbation? Could they occur without porn? Sure. Was he a sick bastard, or a normal dude that would have went his whole life without killing someone until he encountered pornography? Maybe he was desensitized by it. Without porn, the sight of a bare ankle might have set him off. Hell, I remember when I could fap at a picture of Olivia Newton John in a sports bra, or images in my mind (I can still pull that off, at least, no pun intended). Can you ban mental imagery?

For that matter, can you really ban porn? There really was no "before porn" like you say.
This image depicts rock carvings over 1000 years old:
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The oldest known depiction of sexual acts is around 40,000 years old. If anything you should be trying to blame the entire history of humanity on porn, not recent serial killings.

Banning porn only forces it to become black market, and drives up the price and limits access to the extremely wealthy, and criminalizes human curiosity. The human body once again becomes taboo and mysterious. To flash an ankle would be considered a sex act. The high price of porn would encourage human slavery and trafficking, as an entire criminal industry would form around it, just as it has done with the drug cartels.

I could go on... but why? Just because someone can't decide to stop touching themselves, they don't get to take away my rights to make my own decisions.

[davidtheman100]

This is a stupid conversation. If you don't like something. Don't do it. As long as it's not infringing on someone else's right to make that decision, it should be your right to chose. If you try to take the right to make that decision away from someone else, you are limiting their freedom or liberty.

Does murder break this rule? Sure. You have the right to decide whether you live or die.
Does rape? Yep.

Making Porn? No. Adult participants in porn made an adult decision, for whatever reasons they have, to make porn.
Watching porn? No. If anything it takes away some of the control that the opposite sex may have over you. It may warp your perspective, but once again, who the F are you to make that decision for me?

How about the right to reproduce. What if I told you, that you have a genetic predisposition toward violence (or baldness, or your IQ is too low, or you are too short, etc), so you will not be allowed to have children. It's for the greater good of the human race, of course. Future generations will thank you. That would be taking away your freedom, and your chance to live just like everyone else. How is this so hard to understand?

If you think someone should be making all of these decisions for you, then who do you think is wise enough to make them? A king or queen? The general population? Two wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner...

Follow the simple rule above, and there will be freedom, anything less is ... well ... less freedom. You cannot prevent serial killers. Psychopaths will be born regardless. History is littered with mass murderers. Many of them became leaders, not because of their ability to lead, but because of how far they would go to maintain power. Look at the warlords in Africa today. Mass murderers. Is it because they watch porn?

I'm saying correlation without causation. You haven't said anything that hasn't already been answered. I already said that it goes without saying that there are other categories and motives behind murder and killings. I think it's safe to say that pornography obsessed killers differ a little bit from the warlords of Africa, wouldn't you?

If i look at it from your perspective, you listed all these things using YOUR OPINION. In that case, what right are you have to say what's okay to use, and what isn't? When there are testimonials that can prove that hardcore pornography is a huge
detriment in many cases for people and causes them to do killings. The proof is in the incidents. Do you need porn?

Let's look at the big picture. You were born and fed when you've done nothing to earn that food. The sidewalks you walk on every single day outside of your house aren't owned by you. You got a free education that you weren't entitled to. Instead having a survival of a fittest world where you would have been dead as an infant, you were brought up into the world and given opportunities other people don't have. So when you start to mention how people don't have a right to say what's what and state their opinions and feel like you have a right to dictate what laws should apply where and that you can justify the cause and affect, realize that you're being condescending.

[CanisLupus]

You missed the entire point. Is it my opinion that murder hurts the victim, or infringes on their rights? Or is that a fact?

Do I need porn? Do you need to be able to blow this garbage everywhere? No. It's a right. You can express yourself no matter how idiotic your opinions might be. Let's take away everything you don't need, starting with your phone and computer. Slaves and prisoners are given everything they need. Based on what you're saying, they shouldn't complain about their lack of freedom, because do the really NEED it? I mean, they're getting FED, and HOUSED. They just need to shut up and be happy with what they're given, by whoever decides they need it.

Do I need sidewalks? NO. Did I ask for sidewalks? No. Did I PAY FOR sidewalks. YES. Tha man gave me sidewalks, so I should just be know my place and be assured that he knows what's best for me. That's what I'm hearing.

[CanisLupus]

Let's look at the big picture. You were born and fed when you've done nothing to earn that food. [...] You got a free education that you weren't entitled to. Instead having a survival of a fittest world where you would have been dead as an infant, you were brought up into the world and given opportunities other people don't have.

My parents fed me. Nobody gave it to them. They worked 60 - 70 hours a week to provide for our family. All with no more than a 9th grade education. They started with nothing, and built a successful business. They also paid in thousands a year in property taxes, which paid for the school I went to. I tried to go to another school, out of my district (but actually closer), and they wanted several thousand dollars a year tuition in the early 80's for me to attend. Nothing free about that. If anything, they are STILL paying the same property taxes (Many times more, really), and they are in their 70's. They've surely paid for my education a hundred times over by now. This is where you get your "free" education, I'm sure. You just haven't figured out how the world works yet. Hopefully you're young, and you have time to. If not... I can't help you.

Edit:
The more I think about it, everything you're saying sounds like it's coming directly from a fully indoctrinated college student. I'm betting your in, say, third year? Most of your professors have a very warped view of the world. You'll get out and learn to think for yourself eventually. Start your own business. You'll see how frustrating it is for everyone to assume that what you have worked so hard to accomplish should belong to them. Remember .... "You didn't build that" when your well-payed employees are bailing out on you at 4pm and you're still there until midnight trying to make sure your business stays profitable. You won't be saying "other people made that happen". Guarantee it.

[treant]

Ok so my view on this is we have to do something about porn. I will admit I was heavy into porn before I found my faith and a little ways into it. As I learned more and more about the life I should be leading, I just couldnt bring myself to watch those girls anymore. First I felt bad, then finally it didnt turn me on anymore. I do understand your guys gripe with the government boundaries, but who else can do something about it?

We can all admit (I hope) that 90% of the young teen girls will regret doing porn when they fully mature. Many of them you can just see they dont want that guys 10" penis in their ass. Im saying that way not to be funny but to make a point. You can see they are being coarsest (sp?) through out the video. I would bet that these girls were talked into this over time by some fast talking guy that made the money sound so good and so much fun. They cant feel very pround afterwards.

Now my issue is that the internet made free porn so available, that if it weren't for the net SO many of these girls would not be doing it.....and they wouldn't starve because it was gone. I think all porn should have to be paid for and age ID required. This would create far less demand and then young teen girls wouldnt be sought after so much. Do you see what these pre-teens are doing up in their rooms with the skype thing?

As far as the problem with the girls doing it is desensitization. Now say when this girl grows up into a women and has children what will their boundaries be? Her 13 year old daughter comes home with a hickey, but its ok cause mom did porn at 18? When these girls become women what will their morals be? This is going to degrade generation after generation....the children are our future!

Mankind is not going to progress positively unless moral values are brought back into family life. It started out with the influx of single parent families, gays being able to adopt and now the internet is going to be the final blow. Porn, social networks, internet predators and media....we will fail. Failure is to easy now, its at our finger tips. If you take a step back the net has its positives but they are far out weighed by the negatives. Its as small as people not going out anymore, just socializing on the computer, children bullying others online or as big as ordering escorts for sex off Craigs list ruining marriages, buying guns, learn how to make bombs, sites to find people to cheat with, kiddie porn......I could go on for days. This would be so available if it were not for the net. There has to be a line, can they draw I dont know, we will see.

Theres my 5 cents.

I think the real problem with porn is a bit different then you suggest. First, I don't think it's as much of a problem for the women as you do. I am guessing that they were prostitutes to begin with.. so their line of work would be pretty similar regardless..

Secondly, it's more about addiction and the effect it has on our minds.. and the fact it wastes our time.. Porn kinda slips in these like.. things that we've never seen or experienced before, and some of those things are pretty ****ed up, in that way it can cause a strange moral slide into some ****ed up territory.

It can be utilized as a tool to control people. to alter the way they think.. and to make them waste their time.. it is for these reasons I think its not very good.

The whole 'morals going to shit thing' is a bit overblown.. By and large peoples morals are pretty good.. I meet good decent people everywhere of all faiths (and many of none).

I question things more like.. people deciding to go to war over bullshit reasons because they believe their politicians.. that is more prevalent than any sort of moral decay..

[treant]

Let's look at the big picture. You were born and fed when you've done nothing to earn that food. The sidewalks you walk on every single day outside of your house aren't owned by you. You got a free education that you weren't entitled to. Instead having a survival of a fittest world where you would have been dead as an infant, you were brought up into the world and given opportunities other people don't have. So when you start to mention how people don't have a right to say what's what and state their opinions and feel like you have a right to dictate what laws should apply where and that you can justify the cause and affect, realize that you're being condescending.

I dont know bout you, but I was a pretty rugged little ****er, I would have been alright in a survival of the fittest lord of the flies childhood :P

but anyways back to being serious:

All that shit about how being a member of society gives us things, yeah it does.. So ?

There's no logical connection between that fact and laying down and saying that these rules are OK or that we don't have the right to fight to hang on to every inch of freedom that we have..
If we stop pushing back and saying that there are freedoms that we won't give up.. then we will be slaves.. if we arent already..

I am not saying just Porn.. because that's kind of a shitty thing anyways, but its about rights... and freedom.. who is society to tell me what to do? If they want to bribe me with sidewalks and education they can shove that shit up their ass.

[treant]

I think you Brits should riot. Porn should be free and easily accessible.

Blocking of pornography is blocking free speech. Who is David Cameron or anyone for that matter to decide what is or isn't pornographic? You cannot honestly call yourself a free country, if you do not have freedom of speech and expression.

Okay look I agree it shouldn't be banned. But this whole freespeech thing.. people misuse THE **** outta that word.. Porn is NOT free speech. It's a ****ing picture of tits.. Free speech is being able to call the government out on its bullshit. Its being able to tell other workers to strike due to poor working conditions.. I'm sick of seeing people SHIT on free speech by calling it a bunch of inconsequential shit..

[Simon1972]

Britain- porn illegal- steroid legal
America- Porn legal- steroids illegal
Thailand- porn illegal- steroid legal
Austrlaia- Porn legal- steroids illegal

man o man- where will i live!!?

[Synhax]

wait this is not an onion story? i though Britain was a western democracy with freedom and liberty, what is happening to this world. Porn is an essential part of life, this calls for a revolution!

[lovbyts]

Britain- porn illegal- steroid legal
America- Porn legal- steroids illegal
Thailand- porn illegal- steroid legal
Austrlaia- Porn legal- steroids illegal

man o man- where will i live!!?

I choose Thailand. Saying porn is illegal there is like saying we are banning rain in Seattle. lol
Actually steroids are not legal in Thailand, they are just overlooked most of the time, just like porn.

I stayed at plenty of hotels that had lots of free porn channels. Have you seen the clubs in Pattaya or many other places??? lol

Japan porn is illegal also, not sure about steroids. What they consider porn though is intercourse. Just blur out the naughty bit while it's happening.