Online pornography to be blocked in the UK, announces David Cameron

[Flagg]

BBC News - Online pornography to be blocked by default, PM announces

Dont know how many of you guys know about this, but this bothers me.

Yes I look at porn. I'm sure most of us do, and im sure Cameron is spouting the "think of the children" line, but where will this end? Is this just the thin end of the wedge?

You will need to contact your ISP provider if you want porn. Im also assuming this will mean handing over your personal details in the process.

Ahh, Britain. It's like "THE" testing ground in the West, how far can you push a police state and still call it "DEMOCRACY".

[Lunk1]

I'd MOVE!

[kronik420]

you could always buy dvds..

[austinite]

Ridiculous. What's next? Where is the line drawn?

[bdos]

Ridiculous. What's next? Where is the line drawn?

Well, over the naughty bits i guess

[Java Man]

Oh brother. As in Big Brother. They'll just push it further underground. That's what happens any time government tries to suppress something the people want. Few admit it, but I'd bet almost every man with internet access looks at 'porn'. It's the biggest segment of internet commerce - by a large margin.

Who gets to decide what constitutes 'porn'? The same people crying wolf? Every person asked will define porn differently. It's a moral line that has no business being dictated by a governing body. It's not like people are jerking off on public libraries. They do this in the privacy of the homes.

Hey, I have an idea. Lets just pretend sex doesn't exist and isn't a primal force just as powerful as hunger and the urge to sleep. Idiots. This will backfire.

[Java Man]

Well, over the naughty bits i guess

Lol! Line drawn.

[BIGGUNSWANTED]

Just move to the states everything is a go over here lol!

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[Back In Black]

This means I'm gonna have to start having 'relations' with my other half again.

I believe China has slightly more Internet restrictions than we will have. I'm not sure it will get passed but it will be a travesty if it does.

[krugerr]

This means I'm gonna have to start having 'relations' with my other half again.

I believe China has slightly more Internet restrictions than we will have. I'm not sure it will get passed but it will be a travesty if it does.

I believe china has everything monitored and they're restricted heavily on social networking sites.

[Back In Black]

I believe china has everything monitored and they're restricted heavily on social networking sites.

I know mate, sarcasm rarely comes through in the written word but its normally the Americans that don't get it

[Flagg]

Cameron also wants to get magazines like FHM banned or be put in plain covers because he considers it soft porn.

Didn't realise we were returning to the Victorian era.

[BG]

ThAnkfully someone is stepping up. On my phone I will elaborate more later.

[SexySweetheart]

looks like it's time to invest some money in porn mag stocks.

[krugerr]

I know mate, sarcasm rarely comes through in the written word but its normally the Americans that don't get it

My bad! I was thinking "that's a funny statement BiB" lol.

Fyi - I just checked, shemale midget porn is still accessible. Incase anyone was worried.

[Flagg]

ThAnkfully someone is stepping up. On my phone I will elaborate more later.

I assume you think this is a good idea, BG? Im interested to hear your thoughts.

However I dont think this has anything to do with porn at all and has everything to do with the Government telling us what is good for us. Cameron is also putting a kye-bosh on alcohol and he wants to impliment the same scheme for ciggarettes that Australia uses.

But hey, think of the children! We're too dumb to know what is good for us and what corrupts us!

Sarcasm aside, this is a slippery slope. What constitutes porn? What becomes illegal? What will be the next thing "banned" from the internet?

[BG]

Ok so my view on this is we have to do something about porn. I will admit I was heavy into porn before I found my faith and a little ways into it. As I learned more and more about the life I should be leading, I just couldnt bring myself to watch those girls anymore. First I felt bad, then finally it didnt turn me on anymore. I do understand your guys gripe with the government boundaries, but who else can do something about it?

We can all admit (I hope) that 90% of the young teen girls will regret doing porn when they fully mature. Many of them you can just see they dont want that guys 10" penis in their ass. Im saying that way not to be funny but to make a point. You can see they are being coarsest (sp?) through out the video. I would bet that these girls were talked into this over time by some fast talking guy that made the money sound so good and so much fun. They cant feel very pround afterwards.

Now my issue is that the internet made free porn so available, that if it weren't for the net SO many of these girls would not be doing it.....and they wouldn't starve because it was gone. I think all porn should have to be paid for and age ID required. This would create far less demand and then young teen girls wouldnt be sought after so much. Do you see what these pre-teens are doing up in their rooms with the skype thing?

As far as the problem with the girls doing it is desensitization. Now say when this girl grows up into a women and has children what will their boundaries be? Her 13 year old daughter comes home with a hickey, but its ok cause mom did porn at 18? When these girls become women what will their morals be? This is going to degrade generation after generation....the children are our future!

Mankind is not going to progress positively unless moral values are brought back into family life. It started out with the influx of single parent families, gays being able to adopt and now the internet is going to be the final blow. Porn, social networks, internet predators and media....we will fail. Failure is to easy now, its at our finger tips. If you take a step back the net has its positives but they are far out weighed by the negatives. Its as small as people not going out anymore, just socializing on the computer, children bullying others online or as big as ordering escorts for sex off Craigs list ruining marriages, buying guns, learn how to make bombs, sites to find people to cheat with, kiddie porn......I could go on for days. This would be so available if it were not for the net. There has to be a line, can they draw I dont know, we will see.

Theres my 5 cents.

[BG]

I agree with the cigarettes also, they were designed to make you become addicted and destroy your body one way or another. With out their marketing nobody would smoke them, its just because they marketed so well to past generation that the coolness and addiction has been past on. Another thing children are prayed upon.

[Flagg]

The thing is, restricting access to online porn will not stop a child predator being a child predator.

As much as an oxymoron as this may sound, I like to think I watch "tasteful" porn. I dont watch anything where it looks violent or where the woman is being abused against her will.

I still think this is a slippery slope and the "think of the children" is a poor statement. If this goes ahead, video games and film will be next.

[kelkel]

I know mate, sarcasm rarely comes through in the written word but its normally the Americans that don't get it

What?

[BIGGUNSWANTED]

My bad! I was thinking "that's a funny statement BiB" lol.

Fyi - I just checked, shemale midget porn is still accessible. Incase anyone was worried.

OMG!!!! Lol

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[OnTheSauce]

the government has no business being involved at all. none.

[Bonaparte]

You could still get around it with a VPN, so no big deal (although the concept is disturbing).

[Matt]

The problem here in the UK is that we allow our governments to shaft us, we only have ourselves to blame....

[Honkey_Kong]

I think you Brits should riot. Porn should be free and easily accessible.

Blocking of pornography is blocking free speech. Who is David Cameron or anyone for that matter to decide what is or isn't pornographic? You cannot honestly call yourself a free country, if you do not have freedom of speech and expression.

[KRH]

When this happens I'll be ready with my VPN

[Trevtrev]

They know what's best for all of us.... I'm helpless to police myself and control my own actions without big government helping to guide me down the right path. Lol

[Far from massive]

Here is a simple idea.

Leave the unregulated internet ALONE.


This action is being driven mainly due to all the kids accessing the worst kinds of porn, this is because mainly they are immature boys watching it and they of course want to show they are big men and not intimidated by anything. So they watch Rocco or some other scumbag jam his 11 cock up some girls back door and then jam it into her mouth with a few smacks to the face to make sure she understands her role in the whole deal.

So now you got your 12-14 year old going out on a date with a kid who just spent an hour with his friends watching this shit and listening to gansta rap at the same time....Not a good thing!!!

The problem is no one wants to control their kids because they are too busy worrying about being perceived as cool parents.

Its a simple thing to have websites have the "option" to add a rating to their content. This would be much like the ones on TV shows and Movies where content rules would be laid out and need to be adhered to. The only difference being that it was an option not mandated. Now simply make browsers where they had the ability to use content rating. The rating could then be locked into the settings by the administrator so that anything on the net could be viewed or only that which met a certain rating.

This is easy to do and easy to enforce with the ability of electronic image scanning devices as well as the soccer moms desire to report violations (youtube, craigslist etc. has started using a report violations system and its very effective...to the extent they use it)

Now we get to the real problem....parents say they can not be expected to lock down a kids computer cause Joey's parents did not lock down his so how can they SIC

So now we are at the point where big brother wants to restrict our viewing of porn mainly due to our unwillingness as parents to parent to our (collectively) kids.

[Far from massive]

When this happens I'll be ready with my VPN

My understanding of a VPN is that data is encrypted (by the sender) and decrypted (by the client) and usually travels through a "Tunnel" or dedicated pathway. So assuming this is correct you would be the "client" who is going to act as a "host" for your VPN.


Some might suggest IP spoofing,

IP spoofing through various methods where you can disguise the sender or recipient. While this provides a small amount of anonymity it will not disguise the content of the packets so it would still be easy for big brother to sniff the packets and disallow them regardless of their origin or destination.

I mean I guess you could set-up your own store and forward system using both VPN and IP spoofing. But if Napster and others have shown us anything they have shown how easy any of these systems can be beat by someone with the resources of big brother.

[Oki-Des]

There would be a revolution if someone tried to take away my porn. Lol.

[mockery]

Online Porn has changed young peoples perception of what sex and romance is, it has a bigger impact then what any of you are willing to believe.

the flip side to this is The more the UK government tries to hide porn make it taboo etc etc. Better chances sex crimes will go up, It Appears that country's that are open about nudity and sexuality dont have the same reported rapes and other sex crimes as country's that try and sweep everything under the rug.

[Brett N]

You willl never control internet porn, you would have a better time winning the war on drugs. As a parent, be a parent. Police your kids activities. That's all you can do.

As for getting porn for you or you and your spouse - VPN would work, ip spoofing is a joke.

As long as there are torrents, there will be internet porn. Rent a cheap ass seedbox, download porn to seedbox from your favorite "private" tracker and send those encrypted packets to you from your seedbox. You will be jacking it in no time. Torrents...FTW!!

[CMB]

That is astonishing to me, here in the U.S. that would be an even bigger jaw dropping landmark. However, I do believe that it is probably for the best. There is damaged caused by porn even though we are ignorant to it - for now.

[lovbyts]

The problem here in the UK is that we allow our governments to shaft us, we only have ourselves to blame....

Agreed, that's why we are fighting tooth and nail not to let our government (US) do the same with us by giving into the concept that the government knows what is best for us be it smoking, porn or free speech. It starts out little but it never stops unless we stop it.

You lost/gave away freedom of speech under the guise of if it's hurts someone then it's bad and not acceptable and you can be fined or jailed. As you can see they are not stopping there. Now it's not your speech under attach but it's also your vision, what you are allowed to look at or not.

It's going to get a lot worse before it will get better, if ever.

[lovbyts]

You willl never control internet porn, you would have a better time winning the war on drugs. As a parent, be a parent. Police your kids activities. That's all you can do.

As for getting porn for you or you and your spouse - VPN would work, ip spoofing is a joke.

As long as there are torrents, there will be internet porn. Rent a cheap ass seedbox, download porn to seedbox from your favorite "private" tracker and send those encrypted packets to you from your seedbox. You will be jacking it in no time. Torrents...FTW!!

More information needed.

[NaturalUN]

What the..... No way!!! They can't do this!!! no man will ever clear his internet browsing history ever again! It'll become a useless feature that's all I care about ..... Honest.

[Rwy]

Kind of Ironic that Porn is being blocked on your end but most of the sites that upload illegal movies and sports come out of the UK

[John Andrew]

Pornography is illegal here in Thailand! World's capital for sexual liberty.

Maybe we prefer to do rather than look, when I was young I thought porn was great! The Net has made it so common and so often tasteless and crass that I often wish I was back in the good old days!

Good luck all, John

[Lrodriguez]

its not illegal in thailand... i live there

[krask028]

gays being able to adopt

Not to be a prick, but get real dude... If homosexuals want to adopt children it is none of your concern. The only thing that needs to be banned worldwide is organized religion. It causes more hate and death than anything else I'm familiar with. It IS a criminal organization... As if indoctrinating children into believing a fairy tale is any less sinister than porn being available on the internet...