your thoughts........

**iron4life79** · 04-11-2002, 05:21 PM

ok here we go,
i wanted to post this here because maybe it will weed out some unwanted and unneeded responses. i want advice from bros closer to my age. i dont mean to offend any of the younger brothers, i just want advice from people who have been there. im going to change my cycle up a little, actually a lot.......heres the 1st one:

anadrol weeks1-4 50, 100, 100, 50
anavar weeks 60mg ed weeks 5-10
eq 600mg week 10 weeks
prop 100 mg eod 10 weeks
liquidex 1mg ed throughout
usual anciliary supps.............

and what i want to do now.........

dbol 40 mg ed weeks 1-4
winstrol tabs 40mg ed weeks 6-10
eq 600mg week 10 weeks
cyp 600mg week 10 weeks
liquidex 1mg ed throughout
usual ancilliary supps.............

so i need opinions........which one and why?

peace bb79

**BE_STRONG** · 04-12-2002, 12:43 PM

barbells,

they are both very good cycles. I personnally dont like what a-bombs do to me, therefore I like your 2nd choice better. To me it is much safer! I like to run winny wk8-12. but thats just me!

**iron4life79** · 04-12-2002, 04:55 PM

be strong,
i will keep the winny dosage and the weeks you advised in mind bro, thanks.

deisel,
reason for runnig the liquidex throughout,(other than the obvious gyno reasons) is it keeps the water down, way down. an added benefit is it keeps the test you inject circulating in your system longer, making for better gains. hope this answers your question.

peace bb79

**Ajax** · 04-12-2002, 09:25 PM

Cycle two;

D-bol has done better for me than a-bombs (though I have quitre a fwe left over and I am going to try them again, even though they scare me a bit).

Cypionate is a bigger bang for the buck than Prop and you are doing 600mg rahter than only 350mg/week.

I agree w/ Diesel, run the winny weeks 8-13; more time for the liver to recover and takes you right up tot he doorstep of the Clomid...

**iron4life79** · 04-13-2002, 07:20 AM

well, so far im liking the responses ive gotten. cycle 2 is what im wanting to do and the time frame on the winny will change. i like running right up to clomid as well. should have thought of that when i posted it. thanks bros.........
any other opinions are surely welcome.

peace bb79

**Tarzan** · 04-14-2002, 11:27 AM

I like the second cycle better only I would run the test 11 weeks insted of ten

**gymnut4u** · 04-14-2002, 11:18 PM

I like the second one ,but watch the liver with the orals !

**iron4life79** · 04-19-2002, 12:59 PM

i almost forgot.......

i have 60 tabs of t3 also. can i work these in? if so, when? and and what dosages? i know i need to be on when i take these , or i lose muscle mass, so any help here is appreciated.

peace bb79

**Kingpin** · 05-10-2002, 11:49 AM

Dudes,

I am running same cycle but I don't know exactly when and how to run the clomid.

**Ironweb** · 05-11-2002, 09:14 AM

I would also go with the second one. The time between the 17aa is always good for the liver. The liver is an amazing organ, but we have to help it along sometimes to keep it that way. Also a month between the 2 17aa as stated already by Diesel is a good suggestion.

**Prot** · 05-18-2002, 12:53 AM

but anavar will. To be effective AD 50 must be used at least 150mg if you are over 100 kilos.

Having said that the extra test in your second choice makes it a better choice but either is fine.

Worries over 17AA steroids are probably exagerrated as doctors seldom take into account the fact that exercise can elevate certain liver enzymes. Untrained HIV patients have gone 30 WEEKS on 150mg of anadrol without ANY side effects, including no elevated liver enzymes.