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    yeah he is like 40 and he did back in college. so that makes since why he is tellin me the "old school" way. lol. he thinks in his mind 8 weeks is as long as you should ever cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txpile View Post
    yeah he is like 40 and he did back in college. so that makes since why he is tellin me the "old school" way. lol. he thinks in his mind 8 weeks is as long as you should ever cycle.
    Using short esters he would be correct, hopefully marcus will chime in on this.

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    Using short esters he would be correct, hopefully marcus will chime in on this.
    even with short esters imo pyramiding is wrong
    why do you like it?

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    By having dosage increases your gains dont flatten out. Now don't get me wrong, Im not saying this is the best way but it works. This was big during sust/deca/dbol cycles. Now back to your question, you wont get big increases in estrogen so your water retention will be minimal (wont have to take more drugs as everyone recommends).Coming off also its already has your body slowing down, estrogen decreasing and when you do come off there's not such a big hormone drop. This makes pct easier, less chance of estrogen rebound and is easier on the mind (its a bitch just to stop a cycle when its cranking, that's why so many people loose their edge and stop training because of strength and energy loss). Now for the common 10 weeker like I already said probably isn't a great idea, but when I ran 24+ this kept the gains coming, continual change in hormone levels and no "flattening out of cycle/gains". Also like I said, cycled dht's in and out switching compounds all the time. You can post charts and blood levels ect, ect, but Ive seen them work and they have worked for me. You could go deeper into cortisol building up hinder gains.Its not the best way, but it works, what do you think Arnold and Lou did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG View Post
    By having dosage increases your gains dont flatten out. Now don't get me wrong, Im not saying this is the best way but it works. This was big during sust/deca/dbol cycles. Now back to your question, you wont get big increases in estrogen so your water retention will be minimal (wont have to take more drugs as everyone recommends).Coming off also its already has your body slowing down, estrogen decreasing and when you do come off there's not such a big hormone drop. This makes pct easier, less chance of estrogen rebound and is easier on the mind (its a bitch just to stop a cycle when its cranking, that's why so many people loose their edge and stop training because of strength and energy loss). Now for the common 10 weeker like I already said probably isn't a great idea, but when I ran 24+ this kept the gains coming, continual change in hormone levels and no "flattening out of cycle/gains". Also like I said, cycled dht's in and out switching compounds all the time. You can post charts and blood levels ect, ect, but Ive seen them work and they have worked for me. You could go deeper into cortisol building up hinder gains.Its not the best way, but it works, what do you think Arnold and Lou did?
    thats all i was getting at.
    it works but its not the best way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    even with short esters imo pyramiding is wrong
    why do you like it?
    I said with short esters 7 weeks would be long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG View Post
    I said with short esters 7 weeks would be long enough.
    ohhh sorry
    so you pyramid long but keep short stable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    ohhh sorry
    so you pyramid long but keep short stable?
    Ya the only time I did it was for long cycle, worked very well. Never ran a short one yet.

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