Best combo to build without crazy diet?

[felk87]

FireGuy, standard cooking oil is pure fat, but if you insist on cooking there are other alternatives such as omega oil made for cooking. And about nuts, I said fats in nuts are unsaturated or monosaturated, which are good fats, like those in flax and fish oil.

And about sodium and salt, they're also a cause of obesity, no different from sugars and saturated fats.

Bro your advise is kind off ridiculous, half of your diet tips dont make sense...please let the vets advice him, as they actually know what they are talking about.

[acidking]

Bro your advise is kind off ridiculous, half of your diet tips dont make sense...please let the vets advice him, as they actually know what they are talking about.

the vets? the vets are just like you bro, you all are bashing OP against the fence for asking for advice, on top of being ridiculed he's also not getting any advice, and you call my advice ridiculous? ... seriously bro go f*** a donkey. At least I tried I even went and looked into nutrition values of supps he's taking, what have you and the vets done? ... The mentality on these forums are beyond ridiculous.

[The Bear 79]

the vets? the vets are just like you bro, you all are bashing OP against the fence for asking for advice, on top of being ridiculed he's also not getting any advice, and you call my advice ridiculous? ... seriously bro go f*** a donkey. At least I tried I even went and looked into nutrition values of supps he's taking, what have you and the vets done? ... The mentality on these forums are beyond ridiculous.

Looks to me like the OP received an abundance of good advice from the Vets as well as everyone else here with applicable knowledge..........

you dont have to be on a "crazy diet" but you have to eat enough to grow. Or it wont help. Whats your current diet like

congrads on the progress dropping the b/f but can i ask you, why so many shakes? if your lifestyle/work etc dosnt allow much time to prepare meals then mabey you should consider preparing your meals night before and putting them in containers and bringing them with you? it only takes 2 mins to eat so only slightly longer than drinking a shake, it will fill you for longer because looking at your diet i reckon you must feel starving all day, shakes dont satisify my hunger at all, you will save money and it may even make you feel better in general due to better energy levels, something i think you should definately consider

agree.

time for a little reality.

most of us train really hard here, with a big focus on diet.

no short cuts. can't hit the weights a little, then eat like everyone else, and then expect to take steroids and make a big difference.

and 95% of us are pretty serious about what we do.

What i am trying to say, is that if you want something in life, sometimes you gotta sacrafice, and be disciplined in your approach if you want to realize your goals.

This is definately true with weightlifting.

So take some time, reassess your goals, then balance those goals with the rigors that are required to obtain those goals.

Then when you ready to dedicate, come back and tell us what you want to do.

Fair enough?

---Roman

You dont need aas anytime soon, instead yiu shoukd actually focus more on your diet than you think. 1st your bf is way to hight to even consider aas in the near future, second all those shakes you take are a waste imo, the body can only breakdown so many proteins every hour so your wasting protein and also not eating right, as if you had whole food your body can use all the nutrients plus digest these slower thus making the protein synthesis more effective. Also you say no carbs and no butter, well my friend you need to start everything from scratch again...carbs are a building block of muscle with out them all your doing is using your already built muscles and sacrificing them to exersize with out any stored energy. So please go to the nutrition section let them help you, drop your bf% to around 13-15% and if you still desire to use aas come back to this section and these guys will help you out. But its better to get your diet and bf in check before anything, then after think about compounds....good luck.

Cook up some seasoned chicken breasts and eat them throughout the day.

you were being ridiculed. We are not children here, please dont be so dramatic.

You best bet is to forget a cycle.
goto the nutrition forum and read the stickies and make yourself a diet you think you will follow. And then post it for some help and adjustments

At the risk of making it sound like an echo in here. If you want to add a boost to it and get things moving faster. Completely revamp your diet, with Dr Prescribed test and GH you should be able to make tremendous progress if you change the way you eat and add in some cardio.