Thread: m1t

**Bradly1234** · 03-02-2007, 12:03 AM

Hey, names Brad. 19yr old student studying neutrition/body wellness.
181 lbs, 5'9, 8.9%bf
almost 4 years of good lifting with older builders that tought me right.
I have 2 cycles of ph under my belt (1-ad/M1T),i know ph's r basiclly steroids but I am not starting anything else but ph's till my early 20's

I am about to start my 3rd cycle and it will be M1T.

Pre 1 week-end of pct- 1000 mg silymarin ed(liver)
1500 mcg b-12 ed(combat lathargy/appt)

cycle 1 week-10 mg M1T ed
cycle 2-3 week- 20mg M1T ed

PCT-day 1-2 60mg tomax ed
3-12 40mg tomax ed
13-21 20mg tomax ed

Trib will be used and will also have hawthorn if bp increases

anything else guys? maybe 4-ad is the only thing i can think of but is not required for only a 3 week cycle.

I also heard taking milk thistle(silymarin) is basiclly useless while on the cycle. the most important is pre cycle and post cycle. true of false?

Thanks for ur help

i posted this earlier and for somereason it got deleted

**number twelve** · 03-02-2007, 03:09 AM

where did u hear that milk thistle was pointless?

**Myka** · 03-02-2007, 03:43 AM

Just make sure to eat a ton of carbs. Lethargy will be pretty bad with just methyl.

**UpstateTank** · 03-02-2007, 08:05 AM

FALSE!

and the myth that milk thistle interferes w/ your gains is false too!

that being said your support supp "regiment" you have lined up is pretty piss poor

IMO you MUST have hawthorne berry, flushfree niacin & red yeast rice (cholesterol)

you may want to keep the b-12 going throughout the cycle too as lethargy suckssssssss

if you dont want to keep injecting (im assuming its injectable) pick up some ester vitamin c, start dose at 6g/day to help combat lethargy

you may want to think about adding creatine into pct as well to help maintain as much of your gains as possible!

**Manpretty** · 03-02-2007, 09:42 AM

honestly man your a little young .....but i doubt ill convince you of this
listen to tank he knows his shiiittt.....

hope your happy with your height!!

**IronAdam** · 03-02-2007, 10:32 AM

I agree that you're too young, but if you've done two cycles already the damage is done. Tank gave you some great info, use it.

**Testsubject** · 03-03-2007, 02:53 PM

I would run M1Ts for 40 day straight and 20mg per day, I have run two M1T cycles this way and had extremely good results. I wouldnt run milk thisle while you are taking your M1ts I would wait until after you are done, run it with your PCT. Mykas right, they will make you extremely tired, especially if you daily carb intake is too low, Id even think about running some monohydrate with it as well, run it with your M1Ts and all throughout you PCT.

**Manpretty** · 03-03-2007, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Testsubject

I would run M1Ts for 40 day straight and 20mg per day, I have run two M1T cycles this way and had extremely good results. I wouldnt run milk thisle while you are taking your M1ts I would wait until after you are done, run it with your PCT. Mykas right, they will make you extremely tired, especially if you daily carb intake is too low, Id even think about running some monohydrate with it as well, run it with your M1Ts and all throughout you PCT.

ive run that cycle too.....80 pills in a bottle / 2ED= 40 day LOL
i dont see anything wrong with it......ALOT Of guys on here are gonna flame you for that statement tho.....but they are probably alot more careful/responsible than i am

**Testsubject** · 03-04-2007, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Manpretty

ive run that cycle too.....80 pills in a bottle / 2ED= 40 day LOL
i dont see anything wrong with it......ALOT Of guys on here are gonna flame you for that statement tho.....but they are probably alot more careful/responsible than i am

Bro, anyone who wants to flame me can go right ahead, I couldnt care less, that is the best way of doing them hands down. What kind of gains did you get off that cycle if you dont mind me askin'?

**Manpretty** · 03-04-2007, 11:48 PM

i was cutting at the time so its hard to say......but i got shreaded while still retaining a ton of strength, with (i think minimal) muscle loss

**IronAdam** · 03-05-2007, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Manpretty

i was cutting at the time so its hard to say......but i got shreaded while still retaining a ton of strength, with (i think minimal) muscle loss

I love using M1T to cut. It puts you in such an anabolic state you can gain muscle while melting fat. And the leg pumps from cardio kick ass.

**Bradly1234** · 03-28-2007, 09:19 PM

thanks tank, it worked great. day 9 out of 21 and strength has skyrocketed but weight has stayed the same. no other sides but the bloodpressure is a bit high, hawthron hasent done its job yet.

p.s i have grown an inch sence my first cycle, maybe the estrogen dident close my plates

**max2extreme** · 03-30-2007, 09:23 PM

Why would you not use milk thistle during the M1T cycle? It wont interfere with your gains and every form of protection should be used while on rat poison..

Flush free niacin, hawthorn berry, milk thistle, RYR are musts imo. True, you may not FEEL any sides, but they are there, I'd bet any amount of money on it. But most are scared to get blood work done because out of sight, out of mind. If they have a test that shows their hdl levels for example, they cant ignore that.

**max2extreme** · 03-30-2007, 09:24 PM

also 4-ad is a good stack with M1T.

**Bradly1234** · 04-01-2007, 01:00 PM

i am useing thistle during the cycle but i read the most important times to take it are a week before the cycle and during pc, i never said about interfering with the gains.

**Bradly1234** · 04-01-2007, 11:35 PM

hey guys, i am on my 2 week mark with m1t and i still have only seen 3 lbs gains in weight, should i up it to 20 mg ed? ant suggestionsss??!! it seems like i am just gettin cut

**bulldawg_28** · 04-02-2007, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Manpretty

i was cutting at the time so its hard to say......but i got shreaded while still retaining a ton of strength, with (i think minimal) muscle loss

Sorry to hijack your thread Bradly, but how was the lethargy while using m1t to cut?

**UpstateTank** · 04-02-2007, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by bulldawg_28

Sorry to hijack your thread Bradly, but how was the lethargy while using m1t to cut?

it can b a bitch...i used m1t as a "bridge" to my cutting diet, but if it werent for ester vitamin c i wuld have been in bed 24hrs a day

**bulldawg_28** · 04-03-2007, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by UpstateTank

it can b a bitch...i used m1t as a "bridge" to my cutting diet, but if it werent for ester vitamin c i wuld have been in bed 24hrs a day

What was the rest of your cycle?

**UpstateTank** · 04-03-2007, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by bulldawg_28

What was the rest of your cycle?

whadya mean?

**Manpretty** · 04-03-2007, 08:46 AM

not too bad, im a lazy fcker anyway so its hard too tell and my life isnt very stressed in the summer either, i work at a gym in the evenings and lay around on the beach allday