Whey products.

**basketballfan22** · 05-29-2013, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

I remember the first time I read about that damn shake. It is disgusting honestly.

**basketballfan22** · 05-29-2013, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by LT75

Working in the supplement industry, I do see a lot more unflavored natural isolate products being sold than before. Everyone is starting to make them now.

The reason I prefer unflavored is that it doesn't have all of the extra crap in it. It is also easy to add additional items (e.g. egg whites, almond milk, etc.) without making some weird-ass flavor.

**BluPhin** · 05-29-2013, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by hingey242

i think i am going to go for the gold standard whey or might have a look at the one BluPhin mentioned. thanks guys.
actually one more question, protein shakes, can they be taken any time or is there times that are better to take them than not?

You can buy the 90% whey isolate at the same website for a real good price as well. I just buy the 80% because it is a better value in terms of grams protein per dollar

**hingey242** · 05-29-2013, 04:42 PM

lol just realised i would have to get it shipped to aus and it will cost more for the shipping the the actualy powder haha!

i actually went looking last night and do have a question, on the tub it states 90% protein however then it states 50% protein per serving,? this doesnt make sense to me lol

**MuscleInk** · 05-29-2013, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by tigerspawn

Most noobs to working out believe that pros take mass gainers so they take them. I took care of a guy in his 20's who was taking at least five mass gainer shakes a day. He was also taking protein and multiple other supplements. We explained that all the supplements he was taking weren't necessary and were actually detrimental to his health. He stated that he was going to take a liver cleanse for now on and that he needed to take the supplements that he was taking because he is going to become a professional bodybuilder.

I'm sure its a common mistake many people make. Adding to the problem is that many sales people in those nutrition stores aren't well educated in HEALTHY nutrition and are simply product-trained to push certain products. Sure, there will be a few exceptions on occasion, but of the retail sales people I've met, most talk about specific product features and know less about actual nutrition. Consequently, many consumers waste money on products they don't need and aren't beneficial.

**MuscleInk** · 05-29-2013, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by TattedZach

Wish more of my friends listened when I told them stuff like this. One of them put on 25 lbs in 6 weeks and then complains cause you can't see his abs unless he flexes, and another that is constantly on cycle and cries about his "beer gut" but his philosophy is the more protein the better and drinks 8-10 protein shakes a day. Step aside "truffle shuffle" here comes the "protein belly shake"

Ignorance is bliss I suppose. A similar problem can be seen in this board with guys looking to drop weight or get a beach body in 30 days assuming steroids are a magic pill that will make that all happen. In reality, anabolic compounds will help you achieve beneficial gains when and only when someone has committed themselves to proper nutrition and training plans. More baffling are the guys that assume that taking steroids will actually motivate them to start training hard and eating right.

**hingey242** · 05-29-2013, 05:05 PM

this happened to me last night, i read through some of them on my own, then when i asked the guy working there he was just going for the flashy big named brands and telling me they are great! didnt tell me anything about the ingredients. also when i asked him about flavourless protein he screwed his nose up at me lol as if he had never heard of it!

**MuscleInk** · 05-29-2013, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by hingey242

this happened to me last night, i read through some of them on my own, then when i asked the guy working there he was just going for the flashy big named brands and telling me they are great! didnt tell me anything about the ingredients. also when i asked him about flavourless protein he screwed his nose up at me lol as if he had never heard of it!

I think I've only ever met one sales person in a nutrition store that actually had half an idea about proper nutrition.

**Rusty11** · 05-29-2013, 06:07 PM

No more protein powders for me. Liquid egg whites give me what I need.

**Bonaparte** · 05-29-2013, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

I only drink 1 shake a day - right after fasted cardio. I'm looking around for better products - stevia based sweeteners, whey from grass fed, hormone free cows, etc. I'm sure I'll pay an arm and a leg. Biggest appeal for me is lowering sugar as much as possible and getting a cleaner product overall. Mainstream powders have too much junk in them IMO.

Look into ON's Platinum Hydrowhey.
It has me very interested at the moment. Sure, there is likely something a bit more natural, but it will probably taste like shit and cost far more.

**MuscleInk** · 05-29-2013, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Look into ON's Platinum Hydrowhey.
It has me very interested at the moment. Sure, there is likely something a bit more natural, but it will probably taste like shit and cost far more.

I've used that. It's probably one of the best products right now IMO. Would just like to get sugars down during my cutting cycle and keep things as clean as possible. My food is so bland right now its ridiculous. Lol

**Bonaparte** · 05-29-2013, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

I've used that. It's probably one of the best products right now IMO. Would just like to get sugars down during my cutting cycle and keep things as clean as possible. My food is so bland right now its ridiculous. Lol

So why don't you stick to that?
It doesn't contain any sugar...

**MuscleInk** · 05-29-2013, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

So why don't you stick to that?
It doesn't contain any sugar...

Looking for stevia. I have isopure now and some new one that I found. Whey from grass fed cows, hormone and antibiotic free. 0.7g carbs per serving. Zero sugar. Sweetened with stevia.

Won't mind as much when I bulk later this summer but for my cut I'm really trying to eliminate all sugar and drive carbs down and cardio up.

**Dougiefresh7707** · 06-03-2013, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

So why don't you stick to that?
It doesn't contain any sugar...

I bought it once and it's crazy expensive it's almost 40 a pound. I use pro7ien now but want to switch it up I just don't know to what yet I just cut all others supplement like pre and post workouts out too .