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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Did you try dermacrine? That offered a legit little pop when I was doing SERM based HRT.
    I haven't. I'm not familiar with it so looking into it now. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xilence1984 View Post
    Gotta get those swimmers checked

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    I'm scheduling blood work now and also requesting a revisit to the Endo. My medical insurance finally kicked in (switched jobs) so now it's time to see everything that is going on.

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    Days 126 - 132: More of the same to report. Having erection issues to the point where we stopped having sex. Had sex on Sunday and could barely stay hard. Libido is low again also. Not sure how much longer I can keep this up as it's starting to impact my daily life. Strength in the gym has also been down quite a bit the past week. Not sure what's going on. I did order real Cialis so I'm hoping that will help over the Peptide crap I've been using. I'm pretty sure it is either severely underdosed or bunk. I should have the good stuff within the next week or two. I'm requesting blood work and another appointment with the Endo so I can get a semen analysis complete to see if anything is going on.

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    Thanks for the tip about Dermacrine. I looked into it and it looks promising. Some mixed reviews but many said it really helped with libido etc. I ordered some so it should be here early next week. I can’t believe I’m already 4.5 months in. I’m not sure what to do with the Clomid

    I take 50mg per day. Was curious if bumping to 100mg per day would increase my libido but I slosh ate to take too much. That said, when I was doing this before my Endo said 60mg per day was too much and he actually prescribed 40mg twice per week only. I’m trying to get an appointment with him again in the upcoming weeks.

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    Looking into this firther it looks like this can impair fertility so prob not a good option. DHEA can suppress the HPTA. Ugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    Thanks for the tip about Dermacrine. I looked into it and it looks promising. Some mixed reviews but many said it really helped with libido etc. I ordered some so it should be here early next week. I can’t believe I’m already 4.5 months in. I’m not sure what to do with the Clomid

    I take 50mg per day. Was curious if bumping to 100mg per day would increase my libido but I slosh ate to take too much. That said, when I was doing this before my Endo said 60mg per day was too much and he actually prescribed 40mg twice per week only. I’m trying to get an appointment with him again in the upcoming weeks.
    Dump the clomid and get some enclomiphene. Cut the dose for enclo to 12.5mg per day for a bit, then maybe consider 12.5mg EOD. Peep the sticky in the HRT sub for more on enclomiphene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    Looking into this firther it looks like this can impair fertility so prob not a good option. DHEA can suppress the HPTA. Ugh
    I believe the concern about DHEA impairing HPTA function is WAY over blown.

    Details on Dermacrine being suppressive are sketchy. I think the original formula from 8 years or so ago had 1-DHEA in it, and thus converted to a prohormone. I have only used the current formula, and that for only about a week at a time, both on SERM hrt and injections. Big boost in libido after a few doses on SERMS, not as much while on injections. I mean BIG boost, like damn, Cylon Jr is all angry lol!

    But, that's just one man's experience. I've written in slightly more detail on the site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Dump the clomid and get some enclomiphene. Cut the dose for enclo to 12.5mg per day for a bit, then maybe consider 12.5mg EOD. Peep the sticky in the HRT sub for more on enclomiphene.
    I've been trying to source Enclomiphine for a bit now with no such luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    I've been trying to source Enclomiphine for a bit now with no such luck.
    Peep this for all I know on the subject, including some of the companies that claim to produce enclo, and my experiences with some of them.

    https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...formation.html

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    Days 133 - 138: I’m still roughing this out. I started the Dermacrine 3 days ago so we will see if that does anything. Def an interesting process rubbing that slime all over. Lmao. Hey, if it helps that would be great.

    I just had bloods pulled to see what’s going on. Typically the test numbers take a week or so. Very interested to see where those numbers all lie. I will post the numbers when they are available.

    Pretty much all the same stuff. Still no libido. Haven’t had sex in a week and a half and I’m ok with that. Ughhhhh. I need that part to change soon. Strength is the same, shoulder is improving, and my body is adjusting to no test supplements. My injured shoulder is started to grow a tiny bit so that helps. Once she finishes her period we are gonna have to have sex a ton. Gotta get her pregnant so I can jump back on. After my labs results I will reach out to my Endo and see if anything is going on there
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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    Days 133 - 138: I’m still roughing this out. I started the Dermacrine 3 days ago so we will see if that does anything. Def an interesting process rubbing that slime all over. Lmao. Hey, if it helps that would be great.

    I just had bloods pulled to see what’s going on. Typically the test numbers take a week or so. Very interested to see where those numbers all lie. I will post the numbers when they are available.

    Pretty much all the same stuff. Still no libido. Haven’t had sex in a week and a half and I’m ok with that. Ughhhhh. I need that part to change soon. Strength is the same, shoulder is improving, and my body is adjusting to no test supplements. My injured shoulder is started to grow a tiny bit so that helps. Once she finishes her period we are gonna have to have sex a ton. Gotta get her pregnant so I can jump back on. After my labs results I will reach out to my Endo and see if anything is going on there
    With the dermacrine, I just applied / apply one or two pumps to my shoulders, after a shower, once a day.

    3 to 5 days was about the time it kicked in for me the first time I used it, with an angry boner in the overnight lol! Way TMI but here is to hoping it works for you!

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    Not TMI as it is helpful. I’m def feeling it today. I’m horny and I haven’t been in months. I have that desire now. Haha. My fiancé sent me a pic earlier and it got me all excited. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come. Haha


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    With the dermacrine, I just applied / apply one or two pumps to my shoulders, after a shower, once a day.

    3 to 5 days was about the time it kicked in for me the first time I used it, with an angry boner in the overnight lol! Way TMI but here is to hoping it works for you!
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    My Blood work is starting to come in. Here are some of my results. I will post full blood panels in a separate post when they are all in.

    Estradiol 28 pg/mL < OR = 39 pg/mL

    FSH 7.3 mIU/mL 1.6 - 8.0 mIU/mL

    LH 3.7 mIU/mL 1.5 - 9.3 mIU/mL
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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    My Blood work is starting to come in. Here are some of my results. I will post full blood panels in a separate post when they are all in.

    Estradiol 28 pg/mL < OR = 39 pg/mL

    FSH 7.3 mIU/mL 1.6 - 8.0 mIU/mL

    LH 3.7 mIU/mL 1.5 - 9.3 mIU/mL
    That's not looking bad. You should be producing the baby makers, though I guess they could be bad swimmers, only semen analysis would tell that, I think?

    LH could be higher, I'm guestimating that will put your total t in the 400 range, maybe?

    End in sight though, hopefully!

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    The numbers are better than I expected. F my test numbers come back around 400 I am prob on the mend. My last check in December is was like 200 and when I came off before it was 425. I’m going to call next week to make an appointment with my Endo and see what he thinks and see what a semen analysis shows



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    That's not looking bad. You should be producing the baby makers, though I guess they could be bad swimmers, only semen analysis would tell that, I think?

    LH could be higher, I'm guestimating that will put your total t in the 400 range, maybe?

    End in sight though, hopefully!

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    Days 139 a 147: So, a major issue came up this week and my fiancé and I might be splitting. She stayed out all night the other night and never came home and ghosted me. She swears she didn’t cheat but I don’t believe her. So, I’m likely jumping back on the sauce as getting her pregnant if she’s cheating is a really bad idea. I’m not in a good space right now and I’m really upset.

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    I got my test numbers back and they are t that good.

    Total test 358. Normal 250 - 1100

    Free test. 76.3. Normal 35 - 155

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    DAY 147: I made it pretty far in this journey and it's one I will never do again. That's a rap. I went back on my TRT dosage, Will prob. just do 200mg/week and just feel good again. Maybe I will kick it up in a few weeks. No kids in my future. I'm pretty certain we are done so I might as well get my mental and physical health back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    DAY 147: I made it pretty far in this journey and it's one I will never do again. That's a rap. I went back on my TRT dosage, Will prob. just do 200mg/week and just feel good again. Maybe I will kick it up in a few weeks. No kids in my future. I'm pretty certain we are done so I might as well get my mental and physical health back.
    Sorry to hear that y'all are over, but good on you for taking care of yourself!

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    Thanks man. She cheated on me and we broke up. Spending the night in a hotel. Sucks

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    The past week and a half have been the most difficult of my life. She basically hasn't been home at all. We havent' really talked at all. She's blaming everything on me which is wild. I did my 3rd injection yesterday so another week or so and I should start feeling better. Starting to see some gains in the gym and down some body fat but that's prob. because I haven't been eating.

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    So, i'm 5 weeks into this shit show. Things are getting a little easier. Still looking for a place to move so we're living in the same house for now. That's been tough to say the least. We started hooking up again this weekend so I guess that's a good thing and horrible thing at the same time. At least i'm getting some tail. I've been on a few dates with other women. One girl I actually like a lot so we will see if something pans out there. I've been eating WAY better which is great and I'm leaning out a ton. The test has kicked in so the gym has been fun again. Prob gonna jump on Cycle for a summer cut in the next few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    So, i'm 5 weeks into this shit show. Things are getting a little easier. Still looking for a place to move so we're living in the same house for now. That's been tough to say the least. We started hooking up again this weekend so I guess that's a good thing and horrible thing at the same time. At least i'm getting some tail. I've been on a few dates with other women. One girl I actually like a lot so we will see if something pans out there. I've been eating WAY better which is great and I'm leaning out a ton. The test has kicked in so the gym has been fun again. Prob gonna jump on Cycle for a summer cut in the next few weeks.
    Dude, a little harsh but get the fuck out of your house. You have a trash bitch bro. Do NOT stay in that house and get back with her you are wayyy better than that bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Dude, a little harsh but get the fuck out of your house. You have a trash bitch bro. Do NOT stay in that house and get back with her you are wayyy better than that bro.
    This ain't wrong, I just want to add one thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    So, i'm 5 weeks into this shit show. Things are getting a little easier. Still looking for a place to move so we're living in the same house for now. That's been tough to say the least. We started hooking up again this weekend so I guess that's a good thing and horrible thing at the same time. At least i'm getting some tail. I've been on a few dates with other women. One girl I actually like a lot so we will see if something pans out there. I've been eating WAY better which is great and I'm leaning out a ton. The test has kicked in so the gym has been fun again. Prob gonna jump on Cycle for a summer cut in the next few weeks.
    If you are going to f*ck her, grudge f*ck the sh!t out of her. She ought to be walking bow legged and be sore for days. Make sure she has so many O's she loses some IQ points.

    Seriously, if y'all wear fitbits or similar, they ought to be ready to dial 911. That's the type of sex I'm talking about. Think HIIT or metcon, not LISS.

    Then do as Cuz says and gtfo. She should weep when you go. She needs to know what she is giving up.

    Wrap that donger man, NO WAY you want to be tied to her long term.

    This is, of course, just one man's opinion. Da fuq do I know?
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    UPDATE: So it's been about 7 months since I last posted. What a roller coaster ride. I ended up finding an apartment and moving out. I had the apartment for about 4 months. When I moved out things changed and she started chasing me. There are 2 women she HATED and never wanted to see me with. 1: My Ex wife and 2: the manager of my gym. Well, I ended up dating and hooking up with the manager of my gym. We dated for prob. 4-6 weeks but wasn't what I wanted. We ended up getting back together and I moved back in. Things have been good and she's really been trying. I've been struggling the past few weeks with what she did to me esp. since this dude is a NASTY fat slob. No idea how she ever hooked up with him. He's GROSS. At least the woman I hooked up with has a killer body and is very attractive. haha.

    I've always loved my g/f but know I will prob. never love her like I used to. I'm working to stay on a good path with her but def. keeping my options open. She asked if we would try for a kid again and I told her at no time in the near future. I went right back on TRT and I'm currently running a small cycle of Test and Deca . My weight is up and I'm happy about that and I look pretty good right now. I have less than zero intentions on coming back off for at least another year or longer. At this point I honestly don't think I want to have another kid. I currently pay a lot in child support to my ex wife and I only have 2.5 years left and to potentially add another 18+ years to that is not an option.

    I also need to learn how to trust my g/f again. This has been a major challenge and one of the most difficult things I've ever had to deal with. Not sure what the future brings just taking things day by day.
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    Hay Pete, not trying to be a dick, but you should have heeded cuz advice. I doubt this I going to last in the long run, and your time would have been suited somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121 View Post
    Hay Pete, not trying to be a dick, but you should have heeded cuz advice. I doubt this I going to last in the long run, and your time would have been suited somewhere else.
    You are Prob. right but sometimes we make decisions that aren't always the best for us. This really messed me up to say the least. Coming off ended up being the worst thing I ever did. She said a lot of it was because I got lazy around the house and I didn't really want to do anything with her blah blah blah. Yeah, my test was in the toilet. What did you expect? I warned her about that and then this nasty ass POS came along. He's so lucky I never put him in the hospital. It came close. I went to his house several times but luckily he wasn't there. I never gave her the engagement ring back and at one point was planning on it but at this point in time that isn't going to be an option.

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    I totally agree, we have all made decisions that’s not in our best interests at one time or another. Did that other bloke know you? Or know about you? I would agree mate don’t give her the ring back and keep her on a tight leash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121 View Post
    I totally agree, we have all made decisions that’s not in our best interests at one time or another. Did that other bloke know you? Or know about you? I would agree mate don’t give her the ring back and keep her on a tight leash.
    He was the tree guy that we hired. He just started texting her and boom. He commented in my cauliflower ear when I met him so he knows I could kill him. My gf said he was afraid I was going to and she begged me not to. My buddy said I would get 10 years in jail with my background and what I would do to him so I decided it wasn’t worth it
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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121 View Post
    I totally agree, we have all made decisions that’s not in our best interests at one time or another. Did that other bloke know you? Or know about you? I would agree mate don’t give her the ring back and keep her on a tight leash.
    If you have to keep her on a tight leash, she ain't worth keeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    If you have to keep her on a tight leash, she ain't worth keeping.

    Just one man's thoughts
    I agree, and I honestly don't think she will do it again. She has said she has no idea why or how it happened as she's never cheated before in her life. she asked me the other day why I'm still friends with the other woman on FB. She remained friends with the tree guy for months after this happened so now she's gotta wait months for me to delete her.
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    I haven't posted in a few weeks but wanted to update. Things have been great with us. She really regrets what she did and she doesn't know why she did it. We talked about maybe trying again in the future if things stay great with us. I'm REALLY REALLY REALLY concerned about coming off TRT again because it completely changed who I am. I'm confident that mostly led to what happened. I like who I am when I'm on as I feel human. When I'm off I have zero sex drive, motivation, and I'm tired all the time. Not sure if there are any options where I could stay on and still conceive but I figure that would have happened by now. I might jump back on HcG and do a semen test in like 6 months but as of right now I do not want to add a kid into the mix at all. Maybe if things are good for the next year that would be an option and I would have a base line if I did the test.
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