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09-25-2009, 10:59 PM #321
Ronnie - I understand that on the reload you should hit 12 set per body part and on the deload you should cut that in half so 6. But how many reps should you be doing on the reload and deload. My thought is 8-10 on reload and 4-6 on deload but please correct me. Thanks
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IMO, 4 weeks is too short for long acting esters.
IMO, 6 weeks is good but you would be taking a chance on not getting the most out of your anabolic cycle by cutting it 2 weeks short of full-adaptation.
8 WEEKS HAS BEEN PROVEN THE BEST FOR ANABOLIC STEROID CYCLES BECAUSE FULL-ADAPTATION OCCURS IN AROUND 8 WEEKS.
IMO, 12 weeks is a bit too long when using the same dosages of steroids -hence you could be wasting your money.
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I've been getting a lot of positive feedback so I've made some recent updates to Slingshot Training!!!
Peform an 8 week reload and at the same time do an 8 week anabolic cycle of either steroids or pro-hormones. During this 8 week reload do 6-12 sets per each major body part for the entire week.
After your 8 week reload, it's time for a 1-2 week deload. During this time decrease protein consumption by half, reduce anabolic supplements, and reduce training volume by about half as you stated above.
The idea rep-range is around 8-12 but you can go as high as 15 for some muscle groups and as low as 4-6 for others if desired. During the deload it's good practice to go with lower reps to build strength unless you are injured.
After the 1-2 week deload return to an 8 week reload and repeat protocol until burnout occurs. You can do a 1-2 week prime (active or non-active lay-off) when you reach total burnout from blasting (reloading and deloading)!
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10-02-2009, 03:53 AM #324New Member
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The Slingshot training technique as described is a very effective method, I appreciate the gesture and look forward to be a continuous follower of your style
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10-20-2009, 10:10 PM #325
Any new updates Ronnie.
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10-23-2009, 12:08 AM #326
What a great post. I wish some of the mainstream magazines would post helpful knowledge like this rather the the crap i read in some of them.
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Thanks! Magazines are published to keep selling more and more copies to the public. Sales would decline if they did not include all the garbage because some people get bored quick and would rather chase after pipe dreams as opposed to putting in the hard work week after week and do what's required.Unfortunately, some people never undestand there's no quick fixes or easy way out.
They massively over-train because they think a certain pro is doing 20 sets per body part because it's written in some magazine when in reality they are not.
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11-18-2009, 08:05 PM #329New Member
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To me it seems a little tough to limit a shoulder workout to 12 sets, because there is the front, rear, and side delts to work and then presses (if you do presses) and shrugs. So how would your typical shoulder workout look for the reload and deload phases?
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My current shoulder workout during reloads is as follows:
Shoulder presses 4 sets
Lateral raises 3 sets
Reverse flyes 3 sets
Sometimes I opt to do go with 4 sets for every exercise.
Traps would not be included in my shoulder workouts but currently I do 6 sets of dumbbell shrugs for traps.
During deloads:
Shoulder press 2 sets
Lateral raises 2 sets
Reverse flyes 2 sets
Shrugs 3 sets
Note: These are work sets and do not include warm up sets!
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11-26-2009, 03:43 PM #331New Member
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11-27-2009, 05:37 PM #333New Member
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Hey Ronnie I have a quick question. Is it ok to take your B-12 with Tren or Test?
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11-28-2009, 03:21 PM #335New Member
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Hey Ronnie thanks for all the help. I have another one for you. My brother and I have been taking 75mg of Tren eod for about a week and we have not had any side affects like Tren couch. Does this mean that we have bad gear?
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11-28-2009, 03:24 PM #336New Member
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How long does HCG last after beeing mixed?
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12-06-2009, 08:08 AM #337
Ronnie, would you have this info on a downloadable PDF version or a book?
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12-09-2009, 07:15 AM #339Banned
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ok ronnie im going into week 5 and i feel like my traps are getting smaller and i also feel like im not doing enuff for shoulders.. im doing the same shoulder work out you are...and help would be good thanks
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Add 1 set per each shoulder exercise and reduce the weight you are using on dumbbell shrugs inorder to get a strong contraction at the top of the movement.
Six intense work sets once per week works well for most when trying to build traps. I like using only 1 exercise-"seated dumbbell shrugs"! I would also recommend using hooks over straps when doing shrugs because when your grip gives out you can crank out a few more reps. Keep arms perfectly straight anD close to the body when training the traps so the arms are not used.
Note: For the side delts perform one arm at a time side laterals raises on about a 70 degree incline bench. Do them very slow and deliberate and they will grow to their potential.
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12-14-2009, 08:39 AM #341Banned
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12-18-2009, 07:54 AM #342Banned
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OK Ronnie even my bench is going down 225 incline for 8 and now i cant seem to get six on the last set should i be dropping the weight towrds the last sets?
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01-22-2010, 12:11 PM #344
Routine Clarification
I need clarification for the reload/deload/prime and when to incorporate cardio. I am not using steroids .
Current routine:
3 week Reload (12 sets per bodypart)
2 week Deload (6 sets per bodypart)
Repeat until burnout (stiff neck/tendons). Then...
2 week Prime
and the cycle continues.
Cardio:
Reload 1 days (15min PWO)
Deload 4 days (20min PWO)
Prime 5 days (25min PWO)
Questions:
1. Considering I'm not using steroids, is my current routine correct or should I reload longer (8 weeks)? I can't reload with 12 sets for more than 4 weeks. If I reduce my sets whats a good starting point?
2. IF I cut my sets back on the reload so I can reload longer, do I also cut sets back on the deload or stick to 6?
3. If I'm reloading for 8 weeks when is cardio performed?Last edited by F4iGuy; 01-22-2010 at 12:17 PM.
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02-23-2010, 01:42 AM #346
Ronnie, everytime I train my lower body, whether its squat, lunges, leg press, etc, I feel that its always my quads do most of the work, the result is my hams and glutes stays flat, and underdeveloped.
My quads are pretty responsive with heavy weights, so I don't care too much for it, but what i need help with is how can I focus on my lagging hams and glutes?
Can you help me design a specialize set of exercises where I can do 1 special day per week just focusing on my lagging hams and glutes? like what are the best choice of exercises that won't involve any quads stimulation, and how many sets per exercises, etc, to beef up my flat backside?
Thanks man!
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05-07-2010, 01:13 PM #347
think im going to give this a go. i best get to reading
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05-07-2010, 01:50 PM #348
Ronnie, what exactly is a 'working set'? How many reps would you am for? To failure? Do you have a spotter to aid you in forced reps?
For example. Lets take shoulder press (smith). You'd do:
1 warm up set with 60kg 15-20 reps
1 warm up set with 80kg 12-15 reps
1 working set with 100kg 8-10 reps
That one working set x4. Increasing/decreasing the weight if needed.
Is that right mate?
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05-07-2010, 03:01 PM #349
i hope ronnie replys to my pm..
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05-12-2010, 07:03 AM #352New Member
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05-13-2010, 02:29 PM #353Junior Member
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wow...all of this was really helpful info. Thanks a lot!
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05-22-2010, 09:01 PM #354Senior Member
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Ronnie I love your training system....
Finished my 2 week De-load after my first 8 week Re-load phase. Now at the end of my first week in the second Re-load. Your training principles are simple and they work, I love it.
That 2 week De-load while dropping supps and cutting protein in half really gives your body a much needed break and chance to fully recover and refresh itself. I've had a nice rebound effect, where my lifts are already better than they were at the end of my first Re-load and I'm looking leaner in the mirror too... At the start of this first week back into the volume and supps my body was a bit thrown out, however today was leg day and it all came together... All I could do was smile as I pumped out 170kg (374lbs) squats unaided
I hit a PB on the 2 week De-load also, pushing 420kg (924lbs) on leg press for 2 sets of 8 reps!
I should say however that I don't follow any diet that you've mentioned in STS. I follow my own carb/calorie cycling diet.
Can't wait to see the further results towards the end of this Re-load!
My stats:
Age: 26
Weight: 87kg (191lbs)
Height: 176cm (about 5"7')
Body fat: Around 12%
Training exp: 5 years
Am aiming to do my first comp towards the end of next year..
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06-13-2010, 12:37 PM #356Member
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Big props Ronnie. Thank you so much to adding so much to the training and diet knowledge on this board. Have been using DC for awhile and made awesome gains - so a big fan of that system. Then went to straight sets HIT and my progress has stalled.
Started your system this week and am already loving it after one week. I am 33 yo, on HRT of 340 mg Cyp a week - with .25-.375 letro every 3 days and proscar. I know dose is high for TRT but that after two years of different doses and trying deca with it, I feel best at this dose. 500 iu HCG every 4 days.
5'8, 177 lbs, at 12% bf. Graduated high school at 130 lbs so have really developed my body compared to what i thought i would. Been working out very hard last two years and dieting.
Most guess my bodyfat is much lower so maybe the electric machine at the gym is jacked up. the only fat i really have is on my lower abs.
I am cutting right now so carb cycling and doing cardio on empty stomach to lose couple more pounds then T3 and then hitting keto diet.
Split is:
1) Shoulders: 4 x DB press, 4 x laterals, 3 x rear delts, 15 x shrugs for traps
Calves workout 1: 3 x seated for gastro
2) Back: 4 x T- bar rows, 3 x pulldowns, 3 x seated rows, straight arm lats overhead x2,
Triceps: 3 x pressdown, 3 x lying french press
Abs
3) off
4) Legs: 4 x squats, 3 x hams/glutes, 4 x standing calves - for soleus (lagging body part) so also hit calves on shoulder day with a seated calf raise to hit the gastro more
Biceps: 3 sets of 21s
5) Chest: 4 x incline db, 2 x slight incline smith on first incline setting, 2 x pec dec
Forearms: 2 supersets
Rotators: 4 sets
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Any comments? What can i do to tweak my diet since most of my fat storage is occuring in the lower belly? Is that insulin related or......?Last edited by bmit; 06-13-2010 at 12:38 PM. Reason: mistyped
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06-21-2010, 04:04 AM #357Associate Member
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Just a quick question about the begginers training
Monday (Day 1)
Chest-
10 degree Decline Press- 3 sets (8-10 reps)
10 degree Incline Press- 2 sets (8-10 reps)
Shoulders-
Dumbbell over head shoulder presses- 3 sets (8-10 reps)
Lateral raises- 2 sets (8-10 reps)
Lats-
Medium/wide grip pull-ups or lat pull-downs- 3 sets (8-10 reps)
Close grip pull downs (plams facing each other)- 2 sets (8-10 reps)
Barbell rows to lower stomach 3 sets- (8-10 reps)
Barbell rows to mid/upper stomach-2 sets (8-10 reps)
Traps-
Seated Dumbbell shrugs-3 sets (8-10 reps)
Abs-
Crunches-2 sets for 15-50 reps
Tuesday -Off
Wednesday (Day 2)
Biceps-
Seated dumbbell curls 3 sets (8-10 reps)
Seated dumbbell Hammer curls 2 sets (8-10 reps)
Triceps-
Lying Tricep extensions 3 sets (8-10 reps)
Tricep pushdowns with small straight bar 2 sets (8-10 reps)
Quads-
Squats- 3 sets (8-10 reps)
Partial dead-lifts -1 set (8-10 reps)
Leg press 2 sets (8-10 reps)
Hams-
Lying leg curls 3 sets (8-10 reps)
Calves-
Standing calves raise 3 sets (8-10 reps)
I try not to workout for more then 45 mins but this program would take a good 1 hour with taking the proper rests between sets.
How long should this program take and how long is overtraining ?
is this designed for deca and sus or no steroids ?
Thanks.....
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06-21-2010, 06:51 PM #358New Member
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Ok, I see this thread isnt really getting too much action, I will try anyway before reposting on another thread
Ok ive been doing this for almost a year and i still really dont think im doing this correctly.
I blast for 2months and then cruise for 2 weeks. As far as aas goes when do i excately stop short esters on the last day of my 8 weeks. THen reduce anabolics for two? That all i need to do? Ive read in on bodybuilding.com that ronnie said to blast for 4 weeks and cruise for 2. DUde seriously what the deal. Why is this not coherent from site to site. DId you update your information as you learn or something? Somebody please chime in.
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06-21-2010, 06:54 PM #359New Member
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Ronnie where is that book you promised, is this the current sts program. What about pumpyouup.com or bodybuilding.com are those not current anymore cause your information is not the same like i said last post. It hard enough i read them all a dozen times and then find that info is not the same. arrghh
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08-07-2010, 01:49 PM #360
WOW!!! this is not only the best literature I've read on this forum, but the best literature I have read on this subject period! Cheers mate. Let us all know once you get your book published. I will buy your first copy...
If only I worked for a Publishing House.
Great Post, Thank you!
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