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07-13-2009, 04:32 AM #281Stupid
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07-13-2009, 06:45 AM #282
^^^^ so very true, so much to read let alone trying to understand it all.
thanks i'll give it my best shot.
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I simplified the Slingshot Training thread so that it would be easier for everyone to understand.
Yes, it's very easy to over-train and not even realize it. That's why people who have been doing higher volume and switch over to lower volume start seeing gains again. Low volume teaches you to push the intensity and it helps increase strength because the CNS is given ample time to fully recover.
If you have any questions feel free to ask. I am here to help!
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07-13-2009, 09:05 PM #285Stupid
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07-13-2009, 09:11 PM #286
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Everyone please hang in there! I have been hit hard with pms and e-mails. I will try to finish answering them by tommorrow night.
thank you,
Ronnie
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07-16-2009, 01:56 PM #288Stupid
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07-16-2009, 09:03 PM #289
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check your pm ronnie
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07-16-2009, 11:35 PM #290
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07-17-2009, 04:50 AM #291
I had the same problem. I got halfway through reading it and really had no idea what was going on. After reading everyone on the forums positive feedback on STS after trying it, no doubt it really does work. I'm going to have to have another try at making sense out of it all.
Good luck and let us know how it goes mate.
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07-17-2009, 06:01 AM #292
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07-17-2009, 08:28 PM #293
also can moderate intensity be a fast walk?
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07-18-2009, 07:23 AM #294
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07-19-2009, 04:51 AM #295
interesting read, i have spent the last few days understanding STS.
i already train in this order and will continue to do so:
monday: chest, bi's, forearms
tuesday: legs, claves, abbs
wednesday: rest
thursday: shoulders, tri's, abbs
friday: back, traps
1) my biceps are lacking so i now train them on friday aswell after back, traps. does this sound good or should i be training them again at a different time / day?
2) im going to start off this week with prime. prime and deload seem similar just that prime weeks use lighter weight- more reps?
3) is the first working set of compound movements the only time ever where 4-6 rep ranges are used? i was thinking of using 10-12 reps during reload then 4-6 reps during deload, is that ok?
thanks.
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Thursday!
I plan to catch up on all pms, etc by thursday night. As always, thank you for your patience.
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Training wise its really very simple. Your going to blast for as long as possible. The blast is defined by two training cycles. The first training cycle is a reload (higher volume training phase). The second training cycle is a (lower volume training phase). You alternate back and forth between a reload and deload. Doing this gives you the best of both worlds-high volume and low volume training.
Reloads are kept to a 4 week maximum. Deloads are kept to a 2 week maximum. I tend to make my best gains following a 4 week reload alternated with a 1 week deload or a 2 week reload alternated with a 1 week deload.
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07-26-2009, 07:11 AM #300
Thanks Ronnie
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07-27-2009, 11:15 AM #301
Hi Ronnie. I have read a little more than half of your book and it really is a great read. I'm in my third year of law school in Georgia and have started showing some of my class mates the system. We all understand the training protocol, but the dieting sections seem somewhat hard to follow. I saw you have a cliff notes section for training. Do you have one for dieting? Also, I made a somewhat formatted copy of you slingshot training system (the least I could do for you giving us all that great knowledge). I would like to e-mail it to you becuase this will not allow me to attach a file that size. Can you pm me with an e-mail addy?
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07-28-2009, 05:47 PM #302
Sunday, monday, tuesday, thursday, friday ("Low" carb days - 5 days a week)
300g protein
250g carbs
125g fat
3200kcals
Wednesday - Carbup (Clean day)
300g protein
500g carbs
100g fat
4000kcals
Saturday (Carbup day + cheat meal (1-2 meals)
300g protein
500g carbs
200g fat
5000kcals
Food choices:
Carbs:
- Oatmeal
- Rice/Quinoa
- Whole wheat pasta
- Whole wheat bread (Ezekiel)
- Fruit
- Agave Nectar
- Stevia (Doesn’t Count)
Protein source:
- Chicken
- Eggs
- Beef
- Fish
- Protein powders (Casein, whey, gemma)
Fat source:
- The fats in all the meat, and in the egg.. ofcourse
- Avocado
- Extra virgin olive oil
-Natural Peanut Butter
Supplements:
- Trenadrol (Kilosports)
- Sus500 (Genetic Edge)
- Creatine
- Liv- 52
- Nolva/Clomid post cycle
Meal planning throughout the day during reload:
1: Carb/Pro/Fat (Hyperinsulemia meal)
2: Fat/Pro
3: Fat/Pro
4: Carb/Pro
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5: Pro/carb ( Dextrose (65g carbs)/Whey (37g protein)/Skim Milk(36g carbs,24g protein) Post-Workout)
6: Pro/Fat (Whey, Peanut Butter)
Is this correct? My maintenance is 2700. How would my macros and the meal plan above change during my deload? Prime? I am just so confused by this diet. Thanks so much Ronnie.
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Sounds like you live not that far away from me!
In regards to dieting to put on mass the main objective is to take in 1.5-2 grams of protein per pound of body weight during reloads. When you deload simply cut protein intake by about half and replace it with fats, carbs or both inorder to remain at maintenance level.
There are 3 different ways to employ the slingshot mass diet. The key is to keep fats and carbs seprated for the most part regardless of the method you choose.
Method # 1)
Sample 6 for eating meals per day
meal 1-p/c
meal 2-p/f
meal 3-p/c
meal 4-p/f
meal 5-p/c
meal 6-p/c (Note: carbs are cut off before bed time)
Method # 2)
Sample 6 for eating meals per day
meal 1-p/c
meal 2-p/c
meal 3-p/c
meal 4-p/f
meal 5-p/f
meal 6-p/f (Note: carbs are cut off before bed time)
Method # 3)
Alternate a low carb days with a high carb day inorder to control body fat levels and bloat.
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07-31-2009, 09:07 AM #305
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07-31-2009, 09:09 AM #306
Also, I know you just said to seperate carb and fats in meals, but what about a breakfast hyperinsulemia meal?
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07-31-2009, 02:07 PM #307Member
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Hey Ronnie, was wonder what you think of my routine using your slingshot routine during the blast phase of the reloading part of it? How would you change up the deload part of this routine? Thanks in advance
Reload
Chest/Bi's Monday
Bench press
prep set 6-8 rep
1st heavy set 4-6
2nd 8-10
3rd 8-10
4th 12-15
Incline bench press
3set 8-10
Dumbbell press
3set 8-10
Wide barbell curl
3set 8-10
Close grip preacher curl
3set 8-10
Dumbbell curls
3set 8-10
Quads/Ham's/calf/abs Tuesday
Squat
Prep 6-8
1st heavy 4-6
2nd 8-10
3rd 8-10
4th 8-10
Leg press
3set 8-10
leg extension
3set 8-10
lying leg curl
3set 8-10
seated leg curl
3set 8-10
standing calf raise
4set 8-10
seated calf raise
4set 8-10
weighted ab crunch
3set 8-10
leg raise
3set till failure
Wednesday off
Shoulder's/Tri's Thursday
Standing barbell press overhead
prep set 6-8
1st heavy 4-6
2nd 8-10
3rd 8-10
4th 12-15
Dumbbell press
4set 8-10
lateral cable raise
3set 8-10
Close grip Bench press
4set 8-10
Skull crushers
3set 8-10
Rope pull-down
3set 8-10
Back/Trap/Rear delt Friday
Dead-lifts
prep 6-8
1st heavy 4-6
2nd 8-10
3rd 8-10
Wide grip pull-ups palm facing away
4set 8-10
Pull-ups palm facing each other
3set 8-10
Barbell bent over row
4set 8-10
Close grip cable row
3set 8-10
Reverse Fly's
4set 8-10
Front barbell shrugs
3set 8-10
Reverse barbell shrugs
3set 8-10
Saturday/Sunday Off Routine not including warm-ups.
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Let me try and make sense of the once a day hyperinsulinemia meal. I think most know that Dave Palumbo was known for going to McDonalds once a day and eating fries and burgers for his once a day hyperinsulinemia meal. The rest consisted of sepearting carbs and fats to a large degree. Dave's fast metabolism allowed him to eat a large meal composed of high calories and fats/carbs on a daily basis. Obvioulsy, not everyone has the metabolic rate to do this. But, if you do have a fast metabolism I would take in this meal either for breakfast in the form of whole eggs and pancakes/waffles or during an evening meal post workout. Some have such a slow metabolic rate they have to limit hyperinsulin meals to 1-3 times per week.
When trying to gain mass you need carbs. Read the following link and it will help- Steroids and protein intake.
Let me know if this clears things up.
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Photo from recent show
As promised here's a photo from my show done back in june. I'll post more of me and some of my wife in the members picture section.
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08-14-2009, 01:16 AM #310
whoa nice brother
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08-16-2009, 02:24 AM #311New Member
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looks like excellent read and i plan on reading it...
one question.
is their any way u can put this into a word document...downloadable file or something to save me from copying and pasting the entire document and printing it out so i can read this in my own time.
thanks
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08-16-2009, 03:29 AM #312
just copy and paste it mate. i haven't seen a PDF format of this.
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08-16-2009, 06:53 PM #313New Member
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its like 100 + pages ><
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08-16-2009, 10:32 PM #314
yeah only take you 5 mins it's boring though doing it.
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08-17-2009, 12:28 AM #315
I have just stayed up waaaaay to late reading through all this and I have to say that I am SUPER excited to give this a try. As soon as I finish up my current program I am going to jump on to this. Ronnie, thank you so much for taking the time to help us out and for taking the time to post this up. Your system sounds amazing and I know that it will yield some great results.
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08-19-2009, 11:51 PM #316New Member
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well i read through the WHOLE thing.
took a while.
i can honestly say it all went over the top of me. i barely understand what any of it meant...thats cos im new.
with the Gym i am going to join the coming weeks i get a free session with a personal trainer. if i were to say to them i want to go on a slingshot training system would they know wat i am talking about?
or should i just give them a link to this site and say...this is what i want to do.
i have watched the Milo Sarcev videos and have got a couple of his DVD's on order and in the process of designing a diet.
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Many personal trainers specialize in metabolic workouts as opposed to bodybuilding workouts. Let me explain this thing in simple terms:
1) Start by doing a 4 day split training each body part once a week.
2) Do 8-12 intense worksets for each body part for 4-8 weeks. This is called a reload and the reload should be as long as your anabolic cycle given it does not exceed 8 weeks. After the 4-8 weeks is completed reduce intense work sets by half (4-6 sets) while still training each body part once a week on a 4 day split. This is called a deload. Follow the deload for only 1 week then go back to reloading for another 4-8 weeks and continue protocol until you start feeling over-trained. Let me know when you hit a plateau and we will have you do some twice a week training for a period of time if desired.IT'S THAT SIMPLE!
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09-02-2009, 10:17 PM #318
Thank You!
I made some amazing progress in the past 15 months with STS. I also designed a routine for my girlfriend using STS. People are noticing the results. You the man!
Last edited by F4iGuy; 09-03-2009 at 08:05 AM.
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.... WOW.....THAT IS SOME TRANSFORMATION F4iGuy!!!
Nothing pleases me more than seeing others succeed in what they love doing the most...Keep doing whatever it is your are doing because it's working...I can see a big difference in your whole upper body and your lats are becoming down right HUGE!
take care,
Ronnie
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09-25-2009, 02:04 PM #320Banned
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Hey ronnie..what are the pros and cons of 4,6 and 8 weeks cycles vs 12???
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