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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    I think another issue is the use of androgens.

    Cortisol is systemically lower using androgens and the body has a constant stream of anabolic support. Whereas someone who is natural, during PCT, or inbetween cycles doesnt have those benifits.
    That's been my experience as well. I have also found that a lot of naturals that do daily cardio (especially the high intensity form) lose muscle and flatten out!

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    Glad to see this thread finally took off. I had forgotten all about starting this because I thought it had died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    That's been my experience as well. I have also found that a lot of naturals that do daily cardio (especially the high intensity form) lose muscle and flatten out!
    No one mentioned high intensity cardio. Regardless if you are natural or not, If you are doing 30-45 minutes of light intensity cardio in the morning and are chewing into your muscle it's because your diet is off not because of the cardio. As far as flattening out, who doesnt flatten out when getting lean? Flat doesnt equal muscle loss. I can fix flat in 12 hours.

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