My GW-501516 log!

**fries** · 11-17-2012, 10:16 PM

I'll be jumping on the GW log party once AR-R starts carrying theirs!

**Doont-Hunter** · 11-17-2012, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by fries

I'll be jumping on the GW log party once AR-R starts carrying theirs!

How long till AR-R get some GW though?

**fries** · 11-18-2012, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Doont-Hunter

How long till AR-R get some GW though?

Soon I think. Theyre holding a "naming" contest for their new product. "GW 1516". Probably right after the veteran's day sale haha.

**hsvcraig** · 11-18-2012, 10:18 AM

Hey atomini I've looked but can't seem to find any real info on it but do you know if there's a maximum time u can run this for? I was just thinking of almost living on it. There is no pct involved for this is there? Also do you have another research Chem your going to try / interested in?

**Jonnybean** · 11-29-2012, 06:33 AM

nevermind

**Atomini** · 11-29-2012, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by hsvcraig

Hey atomini I've looked but can't seem to find any real info on it but do you know if there's a maximum time u can run this for? I was just thinking of almost living on it. There is no pct involved for this is there? Also do you have another research Chem your going to try / interested in?

There is no max time you can run it for. I tried cycling it because I saw fat loss slow down/halt, but it was likely that fat loss just wasn't that great to begin with and I was imagining things. There is no PCT required as this stuff is not an anabolic steroid and has no effects on the HPTA. I currently have no other research chems I want to test. I did have an interest in Ibutamoren (MK 677) but its very expensive and there are better HGH releasers out there to try. I am going to attempt to try Albuterol in a week or two, since I hear it supposedly is easier on the stimulant like effects than Clenbuterol is, and it has a shorter half life.

Originally Posted by Jonnybean

can somebody please pm me their source for powder version of this please.

You cannot ask this question, it is against the board rules. You must edit your post.

**hsvcraig** · 11-30-2012, 05:51 AM

Once again.... Cheers atomini

**anahny** · 11-30-2012, 08:38 AM

Hey Atomini, I'm starting a tren cycle in January and was gonna take low dosage of t3 to keep body fat low. Now that I see the effects of GW-501516, would this be more effective considering there's no risk in muscle loss,? Also what are the sides of GW-501516?

**human project** · 12-04-2012, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by anahny

Hey Atomini, I'm starting a tren cycle in January and was gonna take low dosage of t3 to keep body fat low. Now that I see the effects of GW-501516, would this be more effective considering there's no risk in muscle loss,? Also what are the sides of GW-501516?

I'm not Atomini but t3 is usually taken in combination with tren bc tren usually inhibits t3 production in the body

**Atomini** · 12-04-2012, 07:04 AM

Human project is correct, however, the thyroid inhibiting effects of Tren is actually quite minimal unless you're running Tren at very very high doses. I can't say if GW may be the better choice for you either, since it didn't really do much good for me in the fat loss department anyhow.

**human project** · 12-12-2012, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Human project is correct, however, the thyroid inhibiting effects of Tren is actually quite minimal unless you're running Tren at very very high doses. I can't say if GW may be the better choice for you either, since it didn't really do much good for me in the fat loss department anyhow.

Although I usually do run high doses of tren I would like to try something different then t3 or t4 myself because im starting to attribute some side effects to them. Atomini you seem to be well versed in this topic; what drugs would you recommend trying?? Just GW??

**Vpunishment** · 12-31-2012, 01:24 PM

" coming soon" Ar-r has GW1516.... I'm excited!

**Atomini** · 12-31-2012, 02:10 PM

Really???

Whoever is the first to try it, please report results. I am hoping AR-R will have quality GW and is properly dosed. I have a feeling that the stuff I got was underdosed (that's if the actual GW didn't work at all).

**snowblowjoe** · 01-01-2013, 02:42 PM

Has anyone even had any good results with this?

Seems trendy and gimmicky. Just stick to you know what works!!!! (spiropent clenbutrol 20mcg by boehringer-ingleheim) and also high quality pill or liquid form albuterol =)

**Atomini** · 01-01-2013, 03:33 PM

Yeah end result is for fat loss I hated this shit. I blew hundreds on running it and saw very little, if any fat loss at all. Endurance enhancing effects were great, but I didn't give a rat's ass about it really... I was looking for the fat loss.

**snowblowjoe** · 01-01-2013, 09:14 PM

Looks like it was just a marketing ploy to get people to try something new then

**human project** · 01-02-2013, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

Looks like it was just a marketing ploy to get people to try something new then

Damn... I really wanted to try it too. Too bad I only guessed GW on that contest...... I obviously ment GW 5156 unless there's another one I don't know about... Who won that??? Have they made a log,?

**lovbyts** · 01-02-2013, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Yeah end result is for fat loss I hated this shit. I blew hundreds on running it and saw very little, if any fat loss at all. Endurance enhancing effects were great, but I didn't give a rat's ass about it really... I was looking for the fat loss.

sounds like the fat loss would come from increased cardio due to increased endurance but not the GW. Damn I hate it when you have to work for your goals.

**Vpunishment** · 01-16-2013, 02:39 PM

I guess its finally here from ar-r ...this stuff is pricey!!!! Please someone try and let me know... Im really into the endurance aspects since I'm a martial artist and this would help with competitions.

Originally Posted by Atomini

Really???

Whoever is the first to try it, please report results. I am hoping AR-R will have quality GW and is properly dosed. I have a feeling that the stuff I got was underdosed (that's if the actual GW didn't work at all).

**john_dough** · 01-16-2013, 04:19 PM

Where did everyone get the 10mg/day dose from?

From the scientific report I read they gave their mice between 2-5mg/kg/day , so 10mg/day would be extremely under dosed compared to what got the mice results.

**panntastic** · 01-16-2013, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by john_dough

Where did everyone get the 10mg/day dose from?

From the scientific report I read they gave their mice between 2-5mg/kg/day , so 10mg/day would be extremely under dosed compared to what got the mice results.

Saying that I would have to take 1/2 a gram a day and that's really not cost effective considering the price of this stuff

**Atomini** · 01-16-2013, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by john_dough

Where did everyone get the 10mg/day dose from?

From the scientific report I read they gave their mice between 2-5mg/kg/day , so 10mg/day would be extremely under dosed compared to what got the mice results.

Man, I was up to 40mg daily and still saw nothing. And like panntastic said, if we were to use the same dosing guidelines for GW-501516 that is outlined in the studies (2 - 5mg/kg daily), that means I would need to consume between 182 - 500+ mg daily. Each bottle I had contained 300mg each, and I bought lots of 3 bottles per order. That means i'd have to consume at LEAST a whole bottle a day. Sorry, but i'm not putting a hole in the wallet the size of thousands of dollars to end up with something that doesn't provide fat loss at all. Nope.

A lot of those studies' context must also be taken into consideration. If mice/rats were indeed administered 5mg per kg of body weight, then maybe GW's fat loss dose is too far out of reach for any of us to justify spending the money on. But the fact of the matter is, various observations tell us that a dose between 10 - 40mg daily does seem to elicit fat loss in SOME small amount of individuals, of which it is very clear I do not belong to that small group.

At the end of the day, my conclusion is that GW for fat loss is hit and miss. Endurance benefits are 100%, but fat loss is a gamble with this stuff. For the amount of money i've spent on it, i'd rather go to the casino and play a hand or two of poker instead.