#12's 1,4 ad and M1T log

[number twelve]

I plan on starting a cycle of m1t and 1,4 ad in the next few weeks so i thought i would lay out my cycle and get everyones input. special thanks to BCD for helping me put this together ; ) and k biz for helping me to convince myself this is a good idea haha

STATS
5'10"
193-195
<10% bf

Past Experience
superdrol<3
phera plex
mass tabs
promagnon 25

Goals
I am a rugby player however my season is about to be ending in the next few weeks, my goal is to pack on as much lean muscle and strength as possible while maintaining my cardio and low bf. I base my workouts on compound lifts such as squats, power cleans, and dead lifts etc...I would like to be able to bench press and squat around 405 by the end of this cycle and be wei***ng about 205-210

Support
milk thistle
RYR
FF niacin
efa's
ester c

Other Supps
Armaggedon (pre workout)
Dextrose/waxy maize
BCAA's (dirty)
cytogainer
FOOOOOOODDDDDDDD!!!


Cycle

1,4ad:
weeks 1-8: 1000mg

M1T:
weeks 4-8: 15 mg

also

L carnitine tartrate 1000mg ed
myogenx 3 caps ed

*Note, the dosages of both 4 ad and m1t are subject to change based on how i feel. I have been advised that the effective dose of 1,4 ad is around 1g ed, however I may also bump the m1t to a higher dose. 1,4 ad is not methylated so it wont be a situation where i am stacking two methyl compounds and severely taxing my liver.

PCT

Nolva:
1st week: 40mg/day
2nd week: 40mg/day
3rd week: 20mg/day
4th week: 20mg/day

Clomid:
1st week: 105mg/day
2nd week: 105mg/day
3rd week: 70mg/day
4th week: 70mg/day

and myogenx 3 caps ed
creatine




I havent set a tentative date for when im going to be starting, just want all of your feedback.

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[bcaasdirty]

lookn good u homo

[number twelve]

thanks boo

[number twelve]

i thought this might also be of interest

Typical Daily Diet

Wake up:
9:30am
creatine with dextrose and some aminos

10:15am
30 g protein
50 g carb shake

11:15 am
Pre workout armageddon

work out from about 12 - 1:15 pm

Post workout: dextrose/wms with bcaas

1:40pm
2 orders of tuna rolls

3:15pm
2 more orders of tuna rolls (i get them from my school, i use my mealplan)

4:30pm
1 lb tortellini with marinara sauce(homemade BY ME! from fresh tomatoes)

6:15pm
a few pieces of chicken breast with either brown rice or steamed vegetables with peanut sauce

9:00pm
Natty peanut butter on whole wheat bread

11:00pm before bed
protein shake

all in all its about 4500 cals 300 g protein 400g carbs

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

interesting....

I guess it my turn to put together some crazy stack.

just wait and see what I have planned

[K.Biz]

i own you all!. and 12 stop lying, i didint convince you..... im hand feeding you that shit!

Wait for my 2perdrol log a long side test. then well see who wins muahaha

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

i own you all!. and 12 stop lying, i didint convince you..... im hand feeding you that shit!

Wait for my 2perdrol log a long side test. then well see who wins muahaha

Whats been up Biz?

[suzuki99]

im competing 2perdrol and transdermal 4ad ow owwwwwwwwww

[number twelve]

suzuki did u make the 4ad transdermal or did u buy it?

[bcaasdirty]

i own you all!. and 12 stop lying, i didint convince you..... im hand feeding you that shit!

Wait for my 2perdrol log a long side test. then well see who wins muahaha

lol u bastard

how you ben ya girly man

[number twelve]

here is a pic i took this afternoon. my arms dont look that good but i look pretty lean...

[K.Biz]

woah there bearded man... haha

looking good, but i still own you

and of course my boys big sexy and bcaasdirty are here.... stalking 12... get away! hes all mine!

Yes the rumors are true, im on week 2 of test and just ordered 2pedrol to start stacking it next week Its all gonna kick in at the same time! holllaaaaaa

[number twelve]

the beard is so bad ass son u have no idea haha

[suzuki99]

suzuki did u make the 4ad transdermal or did u buy it?

i still have a jar of 4-ad from BN that I vacume sealed HAHAHAH(evil laughter). I just got some transdrem from cnw. im back and forth between the 4ad though because i do not want to retain alot of water as i am beginning to interview for jobs in finance and dont want the thickness of my face to shout "steroids ". Also a few of my professors who happen to be really solid resume references have asked me if and what i take. I cant afford to loose their support.

[Merc..]

Subscribed 12 ...

Keep up the GREAT work !!



Merc.

[bcaasdirty]

the beard is so bad ass son u have no idea haha

must be a hick fbody thing

[number twelve]

lol dont be hatin brotha!

[number twelve]

just an update, this cycle better be ****ing outstanding, cause i was doing the math for my dosing of 1,4 ad, and i realized i needed to get a 3rd bottle to keep it at the dosage and close to the length of time i wanted. and from what i understand its poiintless to run it for shorter time and lower dosages so i bit the bullet and bought another bottle. basically cost me a little over 100bucks for all 3...just something to keep in mind if your planning on running this supp. btw the 1,4 ad im using is called bold 200 by iForce....


12

[number twelve]

gotta give props to lion my PCT supps just came in, only about 4-5 days after i ordered! woohoo!

[BITTAPART2]

dude, did I tell you you look like Billy Mays the OxyClean guy when you came over last week LMAO. We really dint talk too much about the beard did we? we must....
bump for more cycle info

[number twelve]

ahhh thats messed up bro!! he isnt just the oxyclean, he sells anything and everything on TV haha

[number twelve]

Discussion

do you guys have any questions for me about this cycle or supplements/anything in general? and no BCD i wont go out with you ; )

[K.Biz]

Discussion

do you guys have any questions for me about this cycle or supplements/anything in general? and no BCD i wont go out with you ; )

Will you go out with me?

any reason why ur running the 4-ad so high? i mean a 1000mg is pushing it dont u think?

[number twelve]

as far as i know, that is the effective dose of 1,4 ad...have you read something that indicates otherwise???


and yes ill go out with you but i dont **** on the first date ; ) sorry...

[bcaasdirty]

Will you go out with me?

any reason why ur running the 4-ad so high? i mean a 1000mg is pushing it dont u think?

hES MINE back off KEV

[K.Biz]

hahaha, i love u to up....... oops

[BITTAPART2]

Ive heard the same thing about 1,4 ad and its dosage #12

[number twelve]

hahaha, i love u to up....... oops

[bcaasdirty]

hahaha, i love u to up....... oops

LOL shh

[number twelve]

my third bottle of 1,4 ad came in. everything is set.

honestly, i have been making some great gains in the gym lately all natty, i finally starting taking creatine properly and its working really well for me...

Discussion

should i try to see if i can add a few more pounds with creatine b4 starting my cycle or should i just take advantage of being in a growing state and get this party started??

[bcaasdirty]

get this shit started J

[K.Biz]

god we all grown natty!, get that ish started son!

[rockinred]

wasup 12, I was checking out your thread.... cycle looks pretty good... I was thinking with all your previous hormone cycle experience I would consider bumping M1T to 20mg .... or at least be prepared to take it up a notch...

that would be good if you can hit 405 on bench and M1T gave me some sick stregnth, but what are your numbers at now? I think that is the key to determining that number...also be prepared for some serious water retention. good luck.

[rockinred]

also, did you think about adding some hawthorne berry extract???

[number twelve]

wasup 12, I was checking out your thread.... cycle looks pretty good... I was thinking with all your previous hormone cycle experience I would consider bumping M1T to 20mg .... or at least be prepared to take it up a notch...

that would be good if you can hit 405 on bench and M1T gave me some sick stregnth, but what are your numbers at now? I think that is the key to determining that number...also be prepared for some serious water retention. good luck.

hey bro
i think i have read some of your posts where you stated you have ran m1t b4, so any input you ever have feel free to add it!

i am pretty much figuring im gonna up the dose of the m1t

im benching 315 for reps right now, but that is under a very cardio intensive program, im hoping once rugby is over in a few weeks i will be able to really get my numbers back up, before i broke my collarbone last fall i was repping 365...basically, knowing myself i would be pretty disappointed if i didnt hit 405...
im so dried out right now from all my cardio im doing i wouldnt mind to pick up some water...im definately gonna keep working on my cardio just not at the rate i am right now...

12

[number twelve]

also, did you think about adding some hawthorne berry extract???

yeah im gonna start preloading all my support supps today actually...

[rockinred]

hey bro
i think i have read some of your posts where you stated you have ran m1t b4, so any input you ever have feel free to add it!

i am pretty much figuring im gonna up the dose of the m1t

im benching 315 for reps right now, but that is under a very cardio intensive program, im hoping once rugby is over in a few weeks i will be able to really get my numbers back up, before i broke my collarbone last fall i was repping 365...basically, knowing myself i would be pretty disappointed if i didnt hit 405...
im so dried out right now from all my cardio im doing i wouldnt mind to pick up some water...im definately gonna keep working on my cardio just not at the rate i am right now...

12

12, as you probably already read...m1t is some powerful stuff with some mean sides too... keep an eye on your norm which varies for all.. I could not do any cardio/running on m1t.... my shin pumps would be so bad I couldn't stand it... also got forearm pumps/splints on arm days.... back pumps were pretty intense to were it felt uncormfortable to drive or look backwards in vehicle... I got these more on m1t then dbol or any other prohormones i have ever taken.... lethargy was pretty heavy, but I could handle it... bloat was heavy, but for me that is a good sign stregnth is on the way.

aside from those sides for me, it gave me unbelievable strength... good for rugby... so if you are close to 405 already you should be good on getin there.... keep after the squats bro... imo, if you are benching that kind of weight you should keep the legs balanced and be in the 500 range...

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

This is gonna be ffffffffuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnn.

I cant wait till I get back in the game....July or so..

kick some ass 12!

[number twelve]

im def gonna keep an eye on the sides rockinred thanks for all your input!!

you guys are getting me more and more excited for my own stuff hahaha

[number twelve]

fvck it im startin tomorrow...wooo hooooo!