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    yah, I see Carlos' point as well. I guess I join the ranks of hypocrites. I can't really explain it either (my dad has a PhD in psych, and he explained it to me once, but I can't remember what he said).

    I've known lots of bi girls who had abuse in their past, but I don't think it's altogether accurate to make a direct corelation between those two facts or that to infer that ALL bi/gay were abused

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    It's really no great mystery,

    I find 1 girl sexually attractive

    I find 1 man sexually unattractive

    Therefore,

    I find 2 girls very sexually attractive

    I find 2 guys very sexually unattractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    It's really no great mystery,

    I find 1 girl sexually attractive

    I find 1 man sexually unattractive

    Therefore,

    I find 2 girls very sexually attractive

    I find 2 guys very sexually unattractive.
    HOLY HELL its so obvoius.. HOW COULD I HAVE OVERLOOKED IT!

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    I agree but I think there may be a connection between insecure attachment (where in childrearing, the parent did not respond to child's cry or responded inconsistently - John Bowlby) and promiscuity. You can ask your father about attachment and promiscuity and I'm sure this would bear out.

    Let me explain. When children come from unstable homes they tend to be sexually advanced relative to their peers. These children also have more sexual partners. This should intuitively make sense. This tendency starts with the presence or absense of a specific event during a critical point during maturation (during what's called the "window of opportunity). In the case of humans, it's the response to an infants distress signal. When the child cries (a distress signal) and the mother fails to respond (or responds inconsistently) - this suggests a limited resource environment. During maturation, this will have an impact. Limited resource environment children go through puberty earlier. They also exhibit promiscuity. Darwinians explain that this would be adaptive in a limited resource environment because the threat to life is everpresent so there is more of a biological urgency to have offspring before you get snuffed out or starve.

    When a parent consistently responds to the child's distress call, by contrast, the child tends to go through puberty later. They also have less sexual partners because they are more selective. This is consistent with a bountiful resource environment.

    So although I don't think promiscuity is related to "lesbianship" per se, I think that children from unstable homes tend to be sexual and in some cases, hypersexual. I think it makes sense when you consider the Darwinian explanation.

    Quote Originally Posted by derek7m
    yah, I see Carlos' point as well. I guess I join the ranks of hypocrites. I can't really explain it either (my dad has a PhD in psych, and he explained it to me once, but I can't remember what he said).

    I've known lots of bi girls who had abuse in their past, but I don't think it's altogether accurate to make a direct corelation between those two facts or that to infer that ALL bi/gay were abused

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardio Kitten
    Okay, I have a question, so this was a little while ago. I have a boyfriend, Im straight, I find women attractive, but I've never dated one, and probably never would. Im not "bisexual",.

    fine, so I go out and party with one of my girlfriends, get really drunk, end up making out with her. Boyfriend shows up at the same club we're at, freaks out, that Im cheating on him. I didn't think so! is this cheating?
    Yes it is.. doesn't matter the sex of the partner.. it wasn't your bf

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    Sexual preference does not make someone vile or evil.

    I know alot more gay males than lesbian females and honesty.. They're great. It's almsot as if by saying that your saying they are not human..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dura
    I agree but I think there may be a connection between insecure attachment (where in childrearing, the parent did not respond to child's cry or responded inconsistently - John Bowlby) and promiscuity. You can ask your father about attachment and promiscuity and I'm sure this would bear out.

    Let me explain. When children come from unstable homes they tend to be sexually advanced relative to their peers. These children also have more sexual partners. This should intuitively make sense. This tendency starts with the presence or absense of a specific event during a critical point during maturation (during what's called the "window of opportunity). In the case of humans, it's the response to an infants distress signal. When the child cries (a distress signal) and the mother fails to respond (or responds inconsistently) - this suggests a limited resource environment. During maturation, this will have an impact. Limited resource environment children go through puberty earlier. They also exhibit promiscuity. Darwinians explain that this would be adaptive in a limited resource environment because the threat to life is everpresent so there is more of a biological urgency to have offspring before you get snuffed out or starve.

    When a parent consistently responds to the child's distress call, by contrast, the child tends to go through puberty later. They also have less sexual partners because they are more selective. This is consistent with a bountiful resource environment.

    So although I don't think promiscuity is related to "lesbianship" per se, I think that children from unstable homes tend to be sexual and in some cases, hypersexual. I think it makes sense when you consider the Darwinian explanation.
    I disagree life is what you make it. I come from a very unstable home and don't even understand parent child relationships, but i haven't ever been premiscuous. **** i was with the same guy 16-24!.

    Everyone needs an excuse for behavior and this is just another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dura
    I agree but I think there may be a connection between insecure attachment (where in childrearing, the parent did not respond to child's cry or responded inconsistently - John Bowlby) and promiscuity. You can ask your father about attachment and promiscuity and I'm sure this would bear out.

    Let me explain. When children come from unstable homes they tend to be sexually advanced relative to their peers. These children also have more sexual partners. This should intuitively make sense. This tendency starts with the presence or absense of a specific event during a critical point during maturation (during what's called the "window of opportunity). In the case of humans, it's the response to an infants distress signal. When the child cries (a distress signal) and the mother fails to respond (or responds inconsistently) - this suggests a limited resource environment. During maturation, this will have an impact. Limited resource environment children go through puberty earlier. They also exhibit promiscuity. Darwinians explain that this would be adaptive in a limited resource environment because the threat to life is everpresent so there is more of a biological urgency to have offspring before you get snuffed out or starve.

    When a parent consistently responds to the child's distress call, by contrast, the child tends to go through puberty later. They also have less sexual partners because they are more selective. This is consistent with a bountiful resource environment.

    So although I don't think promiscuity is related to "lesbianship" per se, I think that children from unstable homes tend to be sexual and in some cases, hypersexual. I think it makes sense when you consider the Darwinian explanation.
    Are you linking this to promiscuity as well as homosexuality? Are you calling homosexuals hypersexual?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Are you linking this to promiscuity as well as homosexuality? Are you calling homosexuals hypersexual?
    I think when people talk a lot about what they know nothing of they come off looking silly.. (not you) This concept is absurd.

    I have a saying..

    "better to keep your mouth shut and look stupid.. than to open it up and erase all doubt!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    I think when people talk a lot about what they know nothing of they come off looking silly.. (not you) This concept is absurd.

    I have a saying..

    "better to keep your mouth shut and look stupid.. than to open it up and erase all doubt!"


    I see what you're saying. Lots of big words that say nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E


    I see what you're saying. Lots of big words that say nothing.
    I vote Mike's custom title to be "Pseudo-intellectual-psycho-babbler"!


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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    I vote Mike's custom title to be "Pseudo-intellectual-psycho-babbler"!

    PM a mod. That fits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    You have no idea what's going on in the mind of gay men yet you are the authority on gay women??? Are you a lesbian? I probably know more than you do. And no, most of them have not been raped. That is a myth, a wise tale. Just like Black people are afraid of water.

    i never claimed to be an authority in the area of lesbian women. but im not ignorant bro. i have known several lesbian woman and they were all raped when they were little kids. this is more than just a coincicence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    i never claimed to be an authority in the area of lesbian women. but im not ignorant bro. i have known several lesbian woman and they were all raped when they were little kids. this is more than just a coincicence.
    if you give me a type of person to find i will find u a handfull to..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    i never claimed to be an authority in the area of lesbian women. but im not ignorant bro. i have known several lesbian woman and they were all raped when they were little kids. this is more than just a coincicence.
    Then you have the odd coincidence of meeting rape victims. The ones I know are gay because they love cooch, were never raped or have issues with men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    i never claimed to be an authority in the area of lesbian women. but im not ignorant bro. i have known several lesbian woman and they were all raped when they were little kids. this is more than just a coincicence.
    My assumption is that when one goes through a traumatic experience, they might of transposed those fears on to all men..

    and then if we go there we will get into the debate of it being nature vs. nuture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Then you have the odd coincidence of meeting rape victims. The ones I know are gay because they love cooch, were neer raped or have issues with men.

    maybe they are not being totally honest with you. a girl really has to trust someone before shel admit that she was raped when she was younger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    My assumption is that when one goes through a traumatic experience, they might of transposed those fears on to all men..

    and then if we go there we will get into the debate of it being nature vs. nuture.

    yea, thats exactly what it is. the females that get raped when they are young end up having serious issues with men. im guessing that they dont feel threatened by other women

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    I heard that gay men were gay because they were fed sausages at too young an age - either that or because their parents dressed them in pink as babies, those infant boys exposed to both of these stimuli are the ones that became real flambouyant flamers.
    The more dominant and masculine homosexual men are mostly what the medical profession refer to as Type 1 or S.E.D. (Sausage Exposure Derivative) Homosexuals.
    Carlos - ask your parents about your diet as an infant, I'm willing to bet it included sausages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    maybe they are not being totally honest with you. a girl really has to trust someone before shel admit that she was raped when she was younger
    I was being nice. Now I'm going to say it. BULLSHIT! The whole "people are gay because they were raped or victimize sexually" is a myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    I heard that gay men were gay because they were fed sausages at too young an age - either that or because their parents dressed them in pink as babies, those infant boys exposed to both of these stimuli are the ones that became real flambouyant flamers.
    The more dominant and masculine homosexual men are mostly what the medical profession refer to as Type 1 or S.E.D. (Sausage Exposure Derivative) Homosexuals.
    Carlos - ask your parents about your diet as an infant, I'm willing to bet it included sausages.
    Actually both of my parents don't eat beef or pork and neither do I. Only chicken, turkey and fish. So your sausage *link* falls flat on it's face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    I was being nice. Now I'm going to say it. BULLSHIT! The whole "people are gay because they were raped or victimize sexually" is a myth.

    being nice??? not exactly bro. theres something i dont understand. why the hell are you so rude to me? what did i ever do to you?

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    btw carlos, if you think that being raped as a kid doesnt cause women to turn lesbian then you are ignorant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    being nice??? not exactly bro. theres something i dont understand. why the hell are you so rude to me? what did i ever do to you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    btw carlos, if you think that being raped as a kid doesnt cause women to turn lesbian then you are ignorant
    What you are saying is an old myth. I find it offensive. Pick up a psychology book. The molestation rape idea was disproved a long time ago.
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    i really dont care to study lesbian woman. im speaking from what ive observed in the few lesbian woman that ive known in my life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Actually both of my parents don't eat beef or pork and neither do I. Only chicken, turkey and fish. So your sausage *link* falls flat on it's face.
    Hmmm.....curious.....turkey weiners maybe?

    Any other phallic foods on the menu at the E household - I'm baffled otherwise - years of research down the toilet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    i really dont care to study lesbian woman. im speaking from what ive observed in the few lesbian woman that ive known in my life
    Seriously bro, how many lesbian women are we talking about?

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    its not a myth, ive seen real life examples of it... not some random person i read about in a book, ive met several females that were perfect examples of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    yea, thats exactly what it is. the females that get raped when they are young end up having serious issues with men. im guessing that they dont feel threatened by other women
    but this sterotype will not match the bulk of those who r lesbian.. it's a small segment..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    its not a myth, ive seen real life examples of it... not some random person i read about in a book, ive met several females that were perfect examples of this
    How many?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    Seriously bro, how many lesbian women are we talking about?

    four. but for what its worth, thats every gay female that ive ever known

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    What you are saying is an old myth. I find it offensive. Pick up a psychology book. The molestation rape idea was disproved a long time ago.
    As a whole you're correct.

    But obviously there will be a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    i really dont care to study lesbian woman. im speaking from what ive observed in the few lesbian woman that ive known in my life
    And you're stating it as if it's wide spread. Like you said, a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    but this sterotype will not match the bulk of those who r lesbian.. it's a small segment..

    ok il put it like this, not all lesbian woman were raped as children, but the majority of women that were raped as children turn lesbian cause of the damage that was done to them at such a fragile point in their life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    four. but for what its worth, thats every gay female that ive ever known
    You know 4 gay women and all of them were raped at a young age - what are the odds I wonder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    its not a myth, ive seen real life examples of it... not some random person i read about in a book, ive met several females that were perfect examples of this
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Then you have the odd coincidence of meeting rape victims. The ones I know are gay because they love cooch, were never raped or have issues with men.
    Maybe they told you there were lesbians because they didn't like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Maybe they told you there were lesbians because they didn't like you.
    oooooooo Carlos you bitch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    And you're stating it as if it's wide spread. Like you said, a few.

    maybe im a little too quick to jump to conclusions, but as i said, every female ive ever known that was seriously into other girls were raped as children. btw im not talking about the kind of girl that will make out with other girls at the bar in front of lots of guys. this kind of behavior is very very common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Maybe they told you there were lesbians because they didn't like you.

    three of them were on my dick. one is my best friend and shes totally in love with me, the other two were girlfriends of mine at one point or another, and no they didn't use that as an excuse to break up with me. its something i knew about while i was in a relationship with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    four. but for what its worth, thats every gay female that ive ever known
    I know 4 White people. Should I take their life experiences and say most White are a certain way because 4 people told me... That would be foolish if I did so.
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