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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    Hmmm.....curious.....turkey weiners maybe?

    Any other phallic foods on the menu at the E household - I'm baffled otherwise - years of research down the toilet
    No turkey wieners. I did eat a lot of fish as a child. Maybe that's where it comes from.lol:
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    You know 4 gay women and all of them were raped at a young age - what are the odds I wonder?

    i think its more than just a cooincidence... which is my point here, but carlos keeps telling me im wrong. i think both of us are way too stuborn to listen to eachother

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    I know 4 White people. Should I take their life experiences and say most White are a certain way because 4 people told me... That would be foolish if I did so.

    thats a bad example. skin color has absolutely nothing to do with what a person is thinking or why they act a certain way. youre talking about external similarities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    No turkey wieners. I did eat a lot of fish as a child. Maybe that's where it comes from.lol:
    I'm sorry to have to tell you this Carlos but the vast plethora of scientific evidence at my disposal all points to the fact that you are mistaken and in fact not actually gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    three of them were on my dick. one is my best friend and shes totally in love with me, the other two were girlfriends of mine at one point or another, and no they didn't use that as an excuse to break up with me. its something i knew about while i was in a relationship with them
    If she was on your dick that would mean she's not a lesbian. She is bisexual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    three of them were on my dick. one is my best friend and shes totally in love with me, the other two were girlfriends of mine at one point or another, and no they didn't use that as an excuse to break up with me. its something i knew about while i was in a relationship with them
    Erm, so they were raped at an early age causing them to be repulsed by men and yet you dated them? Are you somewhat effeminate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    thats a bad example. skin color has absolutely nothing to do with what a person is thinking or why they act a certain way. youre talking about external similarities.
    And I am gay and always have been. Just like the color of my skin is a just how I am. Gay is just how I am. So the example does apply.

    Being gay is not a way of thinking or a way to act. It's much deeper than that. Just as you can't explain to me when and why you became attracted to women I can't tell you either. It just is. There was no life changing moment where I decided one day I think I'm gonna like a dude.
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    Hey here's a turn in this theory.. what if the women r using the fact that they were raped, or even exxagerating it, in order to justify their sexual preference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    Erm, so they were raped at an early age causing them to be repulsed by men and yet you dated them? Are you somewhat effeminate?

    these girls were into women, but they were also really into guys too. btw, there is nothing feminine about me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    If she was on your dick that would mean she's not a lesbian. She is bisexual.

    technically yea thats true, but these girls told me that they prefer women over men

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    So the example does apply.

    so you think that skin color is a legit way of judging people you dont know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    Hey here's a turn in this theory.. what if the women r using the fact that they were raped, or even exxagerating it, in order to justify their sexual preference!

    maybe. either way though, i think that it is absolutely terrible that sh_t had to happen to them, especially my best friend liz. shes the only girl ive ever truly loved... it makes me sick to think of the bad sh_t that has happened to her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    so you think that skin color is a legit way of judging people you dont know?
    Tren , I know you mean no harm but you should really think before you post, the way the above post reads is that you think that sexual preference is a legit way of judging people you don't know.

    Also, you said a couple of posts back that you don't know why Carlos is being so rude to you, let me explain why your rape=lesbian theory is offensive to him.
    You are saying that lesbians are that way inclined due to psychological damage incurred at an early age, it is likely that whatever causes homosexuality in women is basically the same as the cause of homosexuality in men, Carlos is a gay man therefore your theory basically equates to saying that Carlos is psychologically damaged/flawed.
    I realise you probably didn't mean that but that is the eventual conclusion to your theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    Tren , I know you mean no harm but you should really think before you post, the way the above post reads is that you think that sexual preference is a legit way of judging people you don't know.

    Also, you said a couple of posts back that you don't know why Carlos is being so rude to you, let me explain why your rape=lesbian theory is offensive to him.
    You are saying that lesbians are that way inclined due to psychological damage incurred at an early age, it is likely that whatever causes homosexuality in women is basically the same as the cause of homosexuality in men, Carlos is a gay man therefore your theory basically equates to saying that Carlos is psychologically damaged/flawed.
    I realise you probably didn't mean that but that is the eventual conclusion to your theory.

    maybe it was unclear what i was really getting at, but i think i clreared it up when i said this

    ok il put it like this, not all lesbian woman were raped as children, but the majority of women that were raped as children turn lesbian cause of the damage that was done to them at such a fragile point in their life

    like i said though, i have no idea why men turn gay so im not trying to claim that i know what the causes are. as far as carlos goes though, hes always been rude to me for absolutely no reason.

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    Men turn gay because they like the stick shift rather than the box

    But they don't turn.. again it's preference

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    i dont think sexual preference is a good way of judging people, but i do think that if a girl is raped when shes young, it makes it more likely that shel turn lesbian or at least bi. even you thought it was odd that all 4 lesbian chicks i know were raped when they were younger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    Men turn gay because they like the stick shift rather than the box

    But they don't turn.. again it's preference
    Sausages I tell ya....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    But they don't turn.. again it's preference

    yea thats true. did you know that insects can be homosexual too? no this is not a joke, i saw it on the discovery channel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    i dont think sexual preference is a good way of judging people, but i do think that if a girl is raped when shes young, it makes it more likely that shel turn lesbian or at least bi. even you thought it was odd that all 4 lesbian chicks i know were raped when they were younger
    Actually I thought it odd that you knew 4 women that were raped, where do you pick them up, at support groups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    Actually I thought it odd that you knew 4 women that were raped, where do you pick them up, at support groups?

    i have bad luck with women. they all seem to have major issues. btw, two of them i met at bars, one is my best friend that i met through my girlfriend back in the day, and the other one was my sister's friend that she met at college

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    sh_t, as a matter of fact, i just remembered my boys girlfriend who is bi and was raped when she was younger. that makes 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    technically yea thats true, but these girls told me that they prefer women over men
    Still means they're bisexual. Bisexual with a stronger attraction to one sex. Lesbians don't like dick unless it's strapped to a female.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    so you think that skin color is a legit way of judging people you dont know?
    Wow you're missing my point. I am saying judging an entire group by your experience with 4 people is foolish. Just as someone saying all White people are a certain why because of their limited experience with 4 people is foolish. Now do you understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Wow you're missing my point. I am saying judging an entire group by your experience with 4 people is foolish. Just as someone saying all White people are a certain why because of their limited experience with 4 people is foolish. Now do you understand?
    U going after this foolish white chick now

    J/k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    maybe it was unclear what i was really getting at, but i think i clreared it up when i said this

    ok il put it like this, not all lesbian woman were raped as children, but the majority of women that were raped as children turn lesbian cause of the damage that was done to them at such a fragile point in their life

    like i said though, i have no idea why men turn gay so im not trying to claim that i know what the causes are. as far as carlos goes though, hes always been rude to me for absolutely no reason.
    Again you make a distinction that women are gay for different reasons than men. If you have no idea why men are gay you have no idea why women are gay either.

    Also, I did not turn gay. Always have been always will be. Can you tell me when you turned straight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Again you make a distinction that women are gay for different reasons than men. If you have no idea why men are gay you have no idea why women are gay either.

    Also, I did not turn gay. Always have been always will be. Can you tell me when you turned straight?

    im not trying to judge gay woman as a whole, but you could say that im making a conclusion about rape victims

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    i dont think sexual preference is a good way of judging people, but i do think that if a girl is raped when shes young, it makes it more likely that shel turn lesbian or at least bi. even you thought it was odd that all 4 lesbian chicks i know were raped when they were younger
    Turn again. No one turns gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Wow you're missing my point. I am saying judging an entire group by your experience with 4 people is foolish. Just as someone saying all White people are a certain why because of their limited experience with 4 people is foolish. Now do you understand?

    no i see your point, and i think that race/skin color is a bad example

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    That is a very bold statement Trenbull, "every" woman that is a lesbian was raped/"every" woman that was raped is a lesbian?

    Ridiculous statement.
    Talk to a shrink and they will probably tell you that each individual that experiences trauma like this at a younger age will react differently. Some may turn to females for comfort and others would obviously react in a totally different way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    yea thats true. did you know that insects can be homosexual too? no this is not a joke, i saw it on the discovery channel
    Homosexuality exists through out nature. I forget which zoo in the US has gay penguins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Turn again. No one turns gay.

    whatever bro, you know what i mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    That is a very bold statement Trenbull, "every" woman that is a lesbian was raped/"every" woman that was raped is a lesbian?

    Ridiculous statement.

    i said every lesbain woman was raped? damn that is an ignorant statement

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    what i meant to say is that its common for women who were raped as children to turn lesbian

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    No my mistake, the ignorant judgement you passed was "the majority of women that were raped as children turn lesbian cause of the damage that was done to them at such a fragile point in their life"

    That is just stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    No my mistake, the ignorant judgement you passed was "the majority of women that were raped as children turn lesbian cause of the damage that was done to them at such a fragile point in their life"

    That is just stupid.

    how so? its a common trend that i have seen. rape victims end up having serious emotional issues, and it can manifest itself by altering sexual preference. a chick that was raped by a man can subconsciously see all men as a threat, and they probably feel safe with women

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    no i see your point, and i think that race/skin color is a bad example
    How so? I can't change my skin color. The same as I can't change what sex I'm attracted to. I just am.

    Kindergarten. You know how kids give out cards and candy to their classmates? I bought a card and candy for all of the boys in my class and I had one special card and gift for one boy in my class who I liked. Didn't give any of the girls jack! I think that is a sign early on that I was gay. So I didn't turn gay at some life changing moment or a traumatic point in my life. When I think back I have always liked guys. I played house with other boys. I was the daddy, they were the mommy. I think I have always been a top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    how so? its a common trend that i have seen. rape victims end up having serious emotional issues, and it can manifest itself by altering sexual preference. a chick that was raped by a man can subconsciously see all men as a threat, and they probably feel safe with women
    If this were as common as you state then 90% of female rape victims would be gay. Which is not the case.
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    Exactly, also you claim that women that are Bisexual who prefer woman fall in the same category. There are so many possibilities to narrow it down to one incident in a woman's life.
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    Have to disagree on this one. Im with Mizfit Life is what you make it. So much so that I think you choose who you are sexually attracted to. There is currently no valid research supporting the "I was born gay" mentality. Your choice. Period

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