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    that my main concern is performing optimally as possible for jiujitsu

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    i thought alot of people did dead s on leg day

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    i dunno i just wanna keep doin deads but mondays it kills me for the next 2 days

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    so yeah im confused

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    Personally, I reserve deads for back. I usually do in the Middle of back routine so as not to get discouraged to go heavy.
    I have heard of people doing deads on leg day tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    i thought alot of people did dead s on leg day
    really?
    none that i know of. lol

    deads are for back day

    squats for leg day

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    i thought alot of people did dead s on leg day
    Deads are on back day, stiff-leg deads are on leg day.

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    well i need help with it some how. i only train 3 days a week and i do jiu-jitsu mon-thurs

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    can i do just lowerback i leg day?

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    I was thinkin this.

    Mon-Tri's BI's Upper Back

    Wed-Shoulders,Chest

    Fri-Lower Back=Deadlift
    And Quads and Hamms

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    Started my cycle today, WOOT~!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    I was thinkin this.

    Mon-Tri's BI's Upper Back

    Wed-Shoulders,Chest

    Fri-Lower Back=Deadlift
    And Quads and Hamms
    that looks good

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    that looks good
    anyone else have anything on this?

    i know some peeps do back in two days

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASTER View Post
    Started my cycle today, WOOT~!
    Tell us about it

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    OT - 60 mg ed 1-6
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    i guess his cycle trumps my question LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    anyone else have anything on this?

    i know some peeps do back in two days
    I think you can make it work.

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    I'm trying to imagine what that split would look like...

    Chest, Shoulders
    * Incline press
    * Flat flyes
    * Military press
    * Lateral flyes
    * Rear delt machine
    * Dumbbell pullover

    Quads, Hams, Calves, Lower Back
    * Squats
    * Leg press
    * Leg extension
    * Leg curl
    * Stiff leg deadlift
    * Deadlift
    * Standing calf raise

    Upper Back, Bi's, Tri's
    * Tricep extensions
    * Tricep pushdowns
    * Lat pull down
    * Bent-over rows
    * Shrugs
    * Standing BB curls
    * Concentration curl

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    I was thinkin this.

    Mon-Tri's BI's Upper Back

    Wed-Shoulders,Chest

    Fri-Lower Back=Deadlift
    And Quads and Hamms
    Thats fine, I wouldn't personally do it that way, but theres plenty of rest time in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    I was thinkin this.

    Mon-Tri's BI's Upper Back

    Wed-Shoulders,Chest

    Fri-Lower Back=Deadlift
    And Quads and Hamms
    I wouldnt do Shoulder and Chest 2gether, You may cheat yourself out of a Good workout by whichever you do second, IMO

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    Im still trying to decide what to run till pct, do u guys think igf is enough or shud i run some var or something

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    I do a rotation so one week i do Bars for Chest and shoulder the week i dont deadlift and squat then when i don DL or squat i use barbells for Chest Shoulders.

    Today MON
    Back-Pull-ups,Straight Arm press Downs,Barbell Row or Cable Row
    Bi's, EZ Barcurl,INCLIEN CURLS
    Tris-Skulls,Close Grip Bench and Dips

    Wed,Flat bench,Inc Dumblell,Cable Flys
    Seated Milt,Side Raise Upright Rows.

    Fri-Deadlift,Shrugs
    Front Squat, Leg Ext,Leg Press
    Leg Curl

    I train Low Volume BTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by vpchill View Post
    I wouldnt do Shoulder and Chest 2gether, You may cheat yourself out of a Good workout by whichever you do second, IMO
    Right but im focusing on chest cuz its lacking.

    Or if anyone else has and idea lemme know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    My gear stash, dirty and clean needles got banished to the basement. Fear of gf stumbling upon them.
    yet another reason g/fs suck

    lol

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    Looks like a badass cycle Master! The only thing I might change is drawing out the suspension for more than 1 week at the end, you have a decent wait to pct, and with all that long ester hanging around from the sust I would levels will still be elevated enough....

    Oh, and were you aware that's a shitload of gear?

    Some guys have all the fun.

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    i could do chest and upper back

    then Wed Shoulder,Tri,BI?

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    what are your stats master?
    the test suspension in week 13 doesn't make much sense imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    i could do chest and upper back

    then Wed Shoulder,Tri,BI?
    Thats a Good Split since you do 3days. I stick with the Push-Pull theory. I feel I cheat myself with 2 push moves in same day.
    I also hate to train Back and Bis together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    yet another reason g/fs suck

    lol
    pro's: they keep you company and provide steady poon

    con's: parisite to male freedom

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    I'm not a huge fan of your cycle master, I think it needs revision

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    i could do chest and upper back

    then Wed Shoulder,Tri,BI?
    may work better

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    what about this

    Shoulder,Bi-Mon

    Upper Back,Chest,Tri-wed or switch monday and wed?

    then Fri u know is the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    what are your stats master?
    the test suspension in week 13 doesn't make much sense imo
    Oh it makes absolutely no sense, but I had enough for a week left so I figured id use it.

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    Wait i got it here it is

    Monday-Upperback,Shoulders,Tri's

    Wed,Chest,BI

    FRI-legs and deads

    and rear delts when?

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    Add Rear Delts Friday since you only workout 3 days. You still Have weekend to rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    Wait i got it here it is

    Monday-Upperback,Shoulders,Tri's

    Wed,Chest,BI

    FRI-legs and deads

    and rear delts when?
    Monday

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