Are any Bodybuilders Christians here

[dupa95]

I renounced as a Catholic over 12 years ago. One of the many great things I have done along the way. Now I know what spirituality is.

[calgarian]

I am just wondering why does it matter which religion you belong to as long as you are good human being???

[rockinred]

I am just wondering why does it matter which religion you belong to as long as you are good human being???

good point...and we might agree on what a good human being is... but, what if we don't agree on what a good human being is.... and who defines what the term "good" means...

I hear this all the time by non-believers (not talking about you calg )... yet, the premise for being good and loving your neighbor, forgiving, etc.. that we all agree upon.....all originated mainly from Jesus.

[ecto9]

im catholic. have a pretty strong faith. but dont push it on other ppl or judge them. the 2 things i loive by are: "above all there is love." and do unto others...

Christ said that is the fullfilment of the Law of God. I agree.

I'm a Christian but at somewhat at odds with churches. I don't like organized religion. I don't get along with church ppl very well. I think they have their heads stuck up in the clouds and mostly associate worshipping God with "emotionalism".

But to strive to be the best that you can be, and love and help other ppl is what it's all about.

I do believe in Christ and the Bible too.

[calgarian]

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Just didnt want to get people upset.

[smokeyd]

Christian here

[dupa95]

I am just wondering why does it matter which religion you belong to as long as you are good human being???

You hit it right on the head!!!!!!!!

[calgarian]

You hit it right on the head!!!!!!!!

Plus I also think that religion is a personal choice ( whether you born in it or you decided on it) IMO dragging religious into politics is another agenda of globalists to make people hate each other. The Global plan is to have one global religion define by the "Elites"

[dupa95]

Plus I also think that religion is a personal choice ( whether you born in it or you decided on it) IMO dragging religious into politics is another agenda of globalists to make people hate each other. The Global plan is to have one global religion define by the "Elites"

Yea what he said

[dupa95]

Please dont respond unless you are a Christian Body Builder.

This is an open forum anyone may respond

[ecto9]

Are any Bodybuilders Christians here? Please dont respond unless you are a Christian Body Builder.

Yeah but you asked a question. Are you only wanting "yes" answers?

[calgarian]

Yea what he said

You dont believe me do you.....most people dont. Take a look at "NWO thread"

[dupa95]

You dont believe me do you.....most people dont. Take a look at "NWO thread"

No I really do belive you. But I will not elaborate on it. Cuz I do not want another uncalled for no exspalnation vacation.

[BigLittleTim]

Anything that locks you up in the prison of SELF: self-seeking, selfishness, self-centeredness... injures or makes impossible any sort of connection with another, including God. It was the sin of Lucifer, and it was the sin he taught mankind: to be at the CENTER of the universe, to set yourself up as god.

"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of Heaven."

It's not that God wouldn't allow a rich man to enter... it's just that the rich man has so much baggage he's clutching. He clings to the load of shit they sold him rather than enter into happiness by realizing: "all this shit isn't making me really happy. Free me, Lord, from what I think I want so you can fill me up with what I really need."

Looked at another way, If your entire value system is founded on being a big, bad, mother-f****r, muscle bound, the envy of every man, the object of every woman's lust, enjoying making others feel inferior, small, and less manly, throwing your weight around and using your muscles to intimidate and get your way, well then... You're clutching much to hard to The World and all its vanities and pomps and false glamour... You couldn't hear God's word even if he blasted it at you through a megaphone.

"It is harder for a bodybuilder to enter into the kingdom of Heaven than it is to drive a SUV through a revolving door."

-BigLittleTim


(I know... a little odd coming from me. Twelve years of Catholic education were not in vain.)

[Narkissos]

I've been a competitive bodybuilder for the last 8 of the 10 years I've been working out.

I'm a Christian.

I compete onstage against myself... Not against a bunch of guys. Their presence there is irrelevant.

It is about me yes... but it isn't vanity.

It is about self improvement and self-actualization.

I compete against myself like I've said: the 'me' who i was the last time I stepped on stage.. v.s. the me I am now.

Sure, bodybuilding can be a vain exploit... but what can't?

Even humanitarian/missionary work can be a vain exploit.

Being able to say 'I help the poor' gets some people's rocks off.


-CNS

[BigLittleTim]

Exactly, Nark! One may be a generous, kind, loving and "Christian" (to go the whole ten yards) and be a bodybuilder, just as one may be all those things and a wealthy heiress or capitalist, or aristocrat, or communist... If bodybuilding helps bring you into the family of mankind, and doesn't lock you up and make all men your potential rivals and enemies, it has helped you realize your full humanity and is a good thing. Sin is, by its very nature, competitive. A sinful nature doesn't care about being rich, or beautiful, or muscular... the "joy" of sin comes in being MORE rich, or MORE beautiful, or MORE muscular than everybody else... and using that fact not to build up your own humanity, but rather to pull other people down, to make them feel "less than", worthless, unloved.

It is the spirit in which we perform our actions that they are judged.

Riches, good health, a beautiful body, social status, a prominent family, military or athletic victories are all GOOD things of which we can be proud. The problem of sin comes in when we set these things up as "false gods", expecting them to provide sustenance for our soul or solutions to life's problems. They can't. They're not up to the task.

The problem comes when Man, having once and for all pushed "God" out the front door, tries to smuggle something else in through the service entrance to take his place. Muscles won't be preached against as much as worldly "riches", in this respect, but then they are less likely to be taken as a "false god" and set off warning alarms in our head.

(Is this ME talking! "What have you done with BigLittleTim?")

[TJM7275]

I was raised Catholic, but after seeing two of my best friends die in a helio crash with me, and then being a block away when that jerkoff blew up the Murrah Building in OKC, I guess I kinda lost my faith. Not trying to down your thread bro, just giving my opinion

[ecto9]

I don't understand all the kaos in the world either. Not letting it affect my belief in God at this point, just putting it off till it will all be revealed to us later (judgement day/next life)...

[Narkissos]

Exactly, Nark! One may be a generous, kind, loving and "Christian" (to go the whole ten yards) and be a bodybuilder, just as one may be all those things and a wealthy heiress or capitalist, or aristocrat, or communist... If bodybuilding helps bring you into the family of mankind, and doesn't lock you up and make all men your potential rivals and enemies, it has helped you realize your full humanity and is a good thing. Sin is, by its very nature, competitive. A sinful nature doesn't care about being rich, or beautiful, or muscular... the "joy" of sin comes in being MORE rich, or MORE beautiful, or MORE muscular than everybody else... and using that fact not to build up your own humanity, but rather to pull other people down, to make them feel "less than", worthless, unloved.

It is the spirit in which we perform our actions that they are judged.

Riches, good health, a beautiful body, social status, a prominent family, military or athletic victories are all GOOD things of which we can be proud. The problem of sin comes in when we set these things up as "false gods", expecting them to provide sustenance for our soul or solutions to life's problems. They can't. They're not up to the task.

The problem comes when Man, having once and for all pushed "God" out the front door, tries to smuggle something else in through the service entrance to take his place. Muscles won't be preached against as much as worldly "riches", in this respect, but then they are less likely to be taken as a "false god" and set off warning alarms in our head.

Great post.

(Is this ME talking! "What have you done with BigLittleTim?")

-CNS

[VisceralReaction]

Yeah, it is a serious subject though for the christian, Christ talked more about hell than he did about heaven.

Jehovas Witnesses don't beleive in hell. Does that mean that they will spend eternity there?

[Narkissos]

^^Why speculate?

That's as pointless as counting every grain of sand on the beach.

-CNS

[audis4]

im a christian.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

lol these threads go nowhere!!

Its all about faith. The truth is, what you want it to be. What makes your god any more credible than that of the Greek Gods? other religions? etc.

Whose to say whose right and whose wrong?

I don't like organized religion. Do I believe in Jesus?
No. Im sure there was a "jesus", but some miracle working messiah? I dont think so. This is my opinion/view, and were each entitled to. If people choose to believe, and it causes them to have a better life/be a better person, more power to them.

A quote I've always kind of liked is:
"I contend we are both atheists; I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

[DSM4Life]

Thats the problem.

Worship me, praise me, me me me me me
or you shall burn and torture forever and ever and ever


What an awesome guy I tell you. Can't wait to see him!

+4...

[boots555]

Thats the problem.

Worship me, praise me, me me me me me
or you shall burn and torture forever and ever and ever


What an awesome guy I tell you. Can't wait to see him!

No, to reject God is what hell is, the abscence of God. Hell is being seperated from God. Those who reject God on earth are experiencing the the beginning of hell.

[boots555]

lol these threads go nowhere!!

Its all about faith. The truth is, what you want it to be. What makes your god any more credible than that of the Greek Gods? other religions? etc.

Whose to say whose right and whose wrong?

I don't like organized religion. Do I believe in Jesus?
No. Im sure there was a "jesus", but some miracle working messiah? I dont think so. This is my opinion/view, and were each entitled to. If people choose to believe, and it causes them to have a better life/be a better person, more power to them.

A quote I've always kind of liked is:
"I contend we are both atheists; I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

The historical Jesus is a part of history. No new testament scholar today would deny that. I respect your response but believing that is illogical. The question is did He rise from the dead. Christianity stands or falls on this question. BigSexy that tomb is empty.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

The historical Jesus is a part of history. No new testament scholar today would deny that. I respect your response but believing that is illogical. The question is did He rise from the dead. Christianity stands or falls on this question. BigSexy that tomb is empty.

I disagree with him rising from the dead.


Whats illogical? What makes your god any more credible than any other? How can you possibly down all other possible gods?? Did you know, the bible is only 1/10 of the writings from back then. It just so happen to live on because of thats what the Romans wanted was it not??

Better yet, lets just agree to disagree. This will go nowhere

[DSM4Life]

No, to reject God is what hell is, the abscence of God. Hell is being seperated from God. .

So i accept hell.


How come when i tell people this they just continue to preach.
THATS MY FINAL ANSWER !

[boots555]

I disagree with him rising from the dead.


Whats illogical? What makes your god any more credible than any other? How can you possibly down all other possible gods?? Did you know, the bible is only 1/10 of the writings from back then. It just so happen to live on because of thats what the Romans wanted was it not??

Better yet, lets just agree to disagree. This will go nowhere

Both liberal and Conservative scholars agree that Christ was a real person and died on the cross.

Christ is credible because of his incredible life. He performed miracles to credidate who He was claiming to be. He fullfilled hundreds of old testament prophecies. I would encourage you to just read read Isaiah 53. Again that tomb is empty. All the Jews had to do to squash Christianity is provide the body. The tomb is empty. Christ said this would happen over and over again. He predicted his own death. Not only that but also things like the destruction of the temple.

[boots555]

This was more than a carpenter

[IronReload04]

raised Catholic.......I can see through the bullshit.....some people cant, some people get turned away from it because of corruption and bullshit.......But I believe in Jesus, and I believe in God.

[CheddaNips]

No sir.
To be healthy is obviously not a sin.
To be strong can possibly be a sin, depends on the reasons for becoming strong I guess. If you want to become strong to impress other people and/or to raise your status in society then it's a sin.

What if you do it because you believe in Darwinism and Natural Selection. I am a christian Of the Catholic Faith (went to Cath grade school, wore a tie and had religion classes), but I think that one day there will be an event that will cause the downfall of our society (i.e Romans, Greeks) and those that have desirable traits to live long enough to reproduce Will. All the weak and stupid shall die and those fit to survive will.

(I dont really think about this too strongly, but if that day does come, I want to be there to build the next Civilizations. Oh, and i love when people stare at me and my body gets me ***** my face wouldn't. And yes I wear condoms)

[boots555]

Its a fact that Christ is a real person of history. If your catholic you know about Augustine. One of the the greatest minds to live. He said it years ago, you never judge a philosophy by those who abuse it. You judge it by its founder and the claims it makes.

[boots555]

I am happy to here from catholics.

[boots555]

I consider them christian also

[lovbyts]

I'm a Christina but not a fanatic. I grew up going to church 3 or 4 times a week, playing piano for our church and all that good stuff.

I am tired of all the hypocrisy though and never force my beliefs on anyone. There is no one true faith, they all have their faults and downfalls. I think many people who get to heaven will be very surprised when they see how many other people from other religions are there.

I have never been into bible thumping or giving up life to attend church or worship. All of my childhood was wasted on attending church and no family time or making memories because my parents wanted to make sure that if we died tomorrow we would be prepared and that meant not living life today.

I think some people need church like some need AA.

[boots555]

Some need Atheism like those who cling to christianity. It goes both ways and I can go into detail about it.

[Doc.Sust]

i was raised catholic, was an alter boy for years went to catholic school, now i am not catholic. i made my own choice to become Episcopalian. more excepting rules that make more sense to myself.

believe what you will believe. but i dont want to see people pointing at others and saying
" what i believe is the right, if you believe anything else you are going to hell" if this happens again, thread is closed

[Doc.Sust]

i was raised catholic, was an alter boy for years went to catholic school, now i am not catholic. i made my own choice to become Episcopalian. more excepting rules that make more sense to myself.

believe what you will believe. but i dont want to see people pointing at others and saying
" what i believe is the right, if you believe anything else you are going to hell" if this happens again, thread is closed

[ecto9]

Wow, lots of stuff in here. Glad to see this thread surviving this long, lol.

I seem to remember a part of the Bb kinda goes like this...

"For without faith it is impossible to know God, for he that comes to God must first believe that He is"