I hate this country....

[Bojangles69]

Ok well Einstein's theories were spurned from a couple hundred years of bright-minds, since say Newton, who in turn compiled his empirical data from a hundred years or so of thinking and ideas from Aristotle and Copernicus, Bacon, etc... etc... Machiavelli was also considered crazy for his ideas about government back in the day. Today's Machiavelli would be like going up to Obama and saying Democracy is shit, terrorism rules. What I said was more of a joke, about not "grasping" your theory, since I do not consider myself gay. I doubt anyone in the near future will be able to top Einstein, for relativities sake. Maybe around 2060 or so... and I'll still be alive then, thanks to SARMS and Melanotan II.

Ok so 2060 is pretty near. Maybe 2260.

I agree, Einstein was one smart dude, but according to the theory he was still gay.

ahaha I was joking too though, its more of one of those things you throw out just to see how people react.
And you became defensive.. which means you obviously are.. well.. a man who likes other.. umm .. women, yeh.

[sizerp]

I agree, Einstein was one smart dude, but according to the theory he was still gay.

ahaha I was joking too though, its more of one of those things you throw out just to see how people react.
And you became defensive.. which means you obviously are.. well.. a man who likes other.. umm .. women, yeh.

^^LOL. I know I was just bustin yo balls. Check this out, if you haven't seen it. Pretty funny.

http://www.fastclips.com/videos/EQdPqEo9el6r

[smokethedays]

When Einstein made his theory of relativity there were prob a lot of people who were like "wtf" back then too.

Some day in the distant future (most likely after you have passed away) humans may evolve the intellectual capacity to understand things that they now struggle with (like we did with sticks & stones 3 millions years ago)


But don't feel inferior or inadequate if you don't get it at this point.



ok?

Behold the new Albert Einstein

[Bojangles69]

LMAO, Chris Rock is hilarious. Very true.

[Bojangles69]

Behold the new Albert Einstein

I do it all for the kids.

Can you imagine 100 years from now when I'm in a childs science book, the teachers turns to a picture of my face and says,
"now children, this is the brilliant man who discovered that everyone in this world is gay... yes, even your daddy"

Almost brings a tear to me eye.
Almost as important as when we figured out the world wasn't flat.

[Dobie-BOY]

The moral character of an illegal immigrant is irrelevant. The point is, by failing to enter the country through the legal channels establised by the host country, and respecting those laws, they have cheated those people who enter the country legally. Invariably, we have to admit less LEGAL immigrants to compensate for the amount of people who enter our country illegally, and that is not fair to those people who respect the laws of our land and enter through a legal pathway.

Additionally, the security risks of turning a blind eye to illegal immigration are immense. Open border policies means that we are allowing people to enter our country whos criminal backgound we have no knowledge of. For instance, the mass influx of immigrants from El Salvador which resulted in one of the most violent street gangs MS-13. I use that as an example to avoid the cliche of "terrorists" because the likelyhood of a terrorist gaining entry illegally is nill yet possible. These screening measures for people entering our country are in place for a good reason. There is no reason people with criminal backgrounds in other countrys should be granted asylum in this country, and then able to victimize legitimate United States citizens.

Moving on, we can consider the societal and FINANCIAL impact of illegal immigration. It is without question that illegal immigration creates a bigger financial burden on the United States. While we benefit from cheap labor and services, we in fact lose more money through our social wellfare programs. Illegal immigrants take out more of the system than they contribute. They often send a large portion of their earnings back to their country of origin, benefitting their economy only. While here, they often do not pay income taxes, yet they use services which are paid for by tax paying American citizen, such as free healthcare in the Emergency Room, free education, and birthright citizenship. (Birthright citizenship is a misnomar in the Constitution which should be amended immediately so that only people who are born in the US to parents who are US citizens are actually citizens, not anyone who hops the border and shits out their kid real quick). They create a significant fianancial drain on our economy and add to the defecit this country feels.

There is often this fallacy that these illegal immigrants are much harder workers than American workers, and nothing could be further from the truth. The illegal immigrant cheats the American worker out of jobs by offering their labor at a rate significantly less than a tax paying American citizen would be able to sustain a him/herself or a family on. Illegal immigrants often pool their resources while staying in this country and live in confined quarters to cut costs. American citizens do not have the luxury of doing this and must often sustain their own nuclear family units. The American worker does not want the jobs that illegal immigrants occupy AT THE RATE THAT EMPLOYERS ARE PAYING THOSE WORKERS! Some people are even naive enough to label you a "racist" if you oppose illegal immigration and dont curtail your beliefs to the far left liberal/socialist viewpoint.



Sell that bleeding heart feel-good liberal bullshit elsewhere.

[Dobie-BOY]

What I wonder is why we dont have unmanned drones (aircraft) with heat seeking (cant think of the word for it) thay fly up and down the border? the things are very cheap to build, very cheap to operate, and would be very effective?

[Darksyde]

do you have any idea how much vegetables would cost without cheap immigrant labor?
they use us, we use them too.

[Kale]

Why do you think i don't live in a western country anymore, i would rather put up with open racism and corruption than the political correctness of my own country..... The latest thing i heard from Australia is there going to bann red pens at schools because there too angry looking when giving marks.... well i wonder how much that shit cost to find out and who cares....... You can't say that you can't say this, Illegal is illegal end of story, YOU try doing it in other countries and see what you get.... Why do westerners always have to be so fcuking stupid, we give heaps in aid and get hatted for it,, i know first hand how we get used. Many countries just think we are really stupid trust me and they have learned what to say to get more money......... RANT OVER

Exactly !!!! You dudes should export all your illegals to Singapore and you can see how a country full of sensible politicians will deal with them !!!

[Older lifter]

Exactly !!!! You dudes should export all your illegals to Singapore and you can see how a country full of sensible politicians will deal with them !!!

Thanks mate,,, was begining to think no one ever reads my posts......lmao

[*RAGE*]

i agree with you

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

set up sniper posts all along the borders


problem solved.

america is too soft with criminals. Put their asses down and let it be a lesson to future criminals

[DSM4Life]

set up sniper posts all along the borders


problem solved.

america is too soft with criminals. Put their asses down and let it be a lesson to future criminals

Start adopting the policy , An eye for an eye. Crime will be non-existent in 2 years.

[sizerp]

start adopting the policy , an eye for an eye. Crime will be non-existent in 2 years.

[B.E.N.]

Sell that bleeding heart feel-good liberal bullshit elsewhere.

I've disagreeed with you before but here you are spot on! Excellent post!

It all boils down to our govt. seemingly having it's hands tied on this issue by the liberal media and liberal policy makers.

Now that the election is over this subject will drop farther and farther off the radar unfortunately.

[sizerp]

I've disagreeed with you before but here you are spot on! Excellent post!

It all boils down to our govt. seemingly having it's hands tied on this issue by the liberal media and liberal policy makers.

Now that the election is over this subject will drop farther and farther off the radar unfortunately.

yeah okay sherlock...

[B.E.N.]

yeah okay sherlock...

Such profound insight from you.

[KingTenderloin]

Didnt read the whole thread so it may have been said already. but i agree with dsm,, Fvck the illegals!! i dont care what anyone says they come over and commit crimes killing, raping and robbing people, sure some are alright but their still illegal immigrants and just being in this country is a crime for them so i dont get it... I read a story a while back where three college kids were beaten and killed execution style and who did it? what do u kno a fvckin illegal immigrant thats gettin paid under the table and benefiting from everyones taxes? I wonder whos payin for his attorney and prison stay..... oh wait

[*RAGE*]

I am going to say I love this country, but hate it democratic views when it comes to illegals and other things..

[binder]

Dude, grow up. I know so many great people who are not citizens, and they are far more worthy than half of the people who ARE citizens in America. It's people like you who bitch and moan, but do nothing to better our society, that bring us down and make us embarrassing. You can blame the law and government all you want, and by making this statement, you're just echoing a universal capriciousness.

You obviously didn't read this whole thread, as this has already been discussed and agreed upon more than once lol. Peeps read before you post please.
I DO know people who are illegal, and have gone through the steps to become legal.

i read the whole thread and didn't find anywhere else that you said those people you know that were illegal are now legal. All you said was "I know so many great people who are not citizens" so they are illegal. You didn't follow up with "and now they are legal citizens".

[binder]

do you have any idea how much vegetables would cost without cheap immigrant labor?
they use us, we use them too.

we do pay for it. Just because they aren't paid in higher wages doesn't mean we don't fork it out in tax dollars when they go to the ER for a cough and get a 1200$ bill they don't pay.

People never think of all the indirect costs to the American public. What about the government housing that you and I pay taxes for? Does that not cost us money?

[JiGGaMaN]

Yeah without reading anyone elses responses cuz im a lazy ass, look up estoppel in the dictionary. Thats what happened.

[DSM4Life]

Estoppel is a legal doctrine of common law that has many individual rules but that generally means that any person arguing a legal position to the court should not have behaved unfairly in the matter. Estoppel complements the requirement of consideration in contract law.[citation needed] In general estoppel protects a party who would suffer detriment if each following test is met:

* A second party has done or said something to induce an expectation.
* The first party relied (reasonably) on the expectation ...
* ... and would suffer detriment if that expectation were not met.

Also, unconscionability by the second party has been accepted by courts as another element sufficient to estop such second party.

Estoppel is a defense that prevents a representor from enforcing legal rights, or from relying on a set of facts that would give rise to enforceable rights (e.g. words said or actions performed), generally only if that enforcement or reliance would be unfair to the representee.[clarification needed] Because its effect is to defeat generally enforceable legal rights, the scope of the remedy is often limited. Note, however, that proprietary estoppel (applicable in English land law) can be both a sword and a shield and the scope of its remedy is wide.

For an example of estoppel, consider the case of a debtor and a creditor. The creditor might unofficially inform the debtor that the creditor forgives the debt. Even if such forgiveness is not formally documented, the creditor may be estopped from changing its mind and seeking to collect the debt, because that change would be unfair. In the same way, a landlord might inform a tenant that rent has been reduced, for example, if there was construction or a lapse in utility services. If the tenant relies on this notice, the landlord could be estopped from collecting the full rent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estoppel

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Start adopting the policy , An eye for an eye. Crime will be non-existent in 2 years.

if only...

[jimmyinkedup]

Yeah without reading anyone elses responses cuz im a lazy ass, look up estoppel in the dictionary. Thats what happened.

*L* Thats a law and order strategy if i ever heard it...good luck applying it in a criminal court pertaining to a capitol offense .....Where did u hear that word jeopardy and figured you'd try and work it in here? even in the lounge your posts are useless.....

[sizerp]

i read the whole thread and didn't find anywhere else that you said those people you know that were illegal are now legal. All you said was "I know so many great people who are not citizens" so they are illegal. You didn't follow up with "and now they are legal citizens".

True, shoulda been more clear. My bad.

[sizerp]

Such profound insight from you.

Sorry lol. It's not over until it's over, is what I should have said. All campaigns are uplifting, it's the nature of them. The responsibility of leadership doesn't end with a single campaign, and Obama hasn't even reached office yet... I for one am going to hold a positive outlook, regardless of the truths you've mentioned, and I believe this is the only way to be triumphant.

[binder]

True, shoulda been more clear. My bad.

it happens, no harm done

[KatsMeow]

i can't stand the immigrants...sorry, this gets personal. ;-/

and one thing that really bothers me, we speak english here, if you are planning on living her for the rest of your life, LEARN TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

i can't stand the immigrants...sorry, this gets personal. ;-/

and one thing that really bothers me, we speak english here, if you are planning on living her for the rest of your life, LEARN TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE

oh boy, don't get me started on the language thing.
I pretty much have to know spanish to live around here these days. Its absurd
and by here, I mean, the USA...lol

[Matt]

Guys Guys Guys, don't go there with the language, we invented it and you guys have messed it up...

[Matt]

^^ Sorry people i just couldnt help it...

[JiGGaMaN]

*L* Thats a law and order strategy if i ever heard it...good luck applying it in a criminal court pertaining to a capitol offense .....Where did u hear that word jeopardy and figured you'd try and work it in here? even in the lounge your posts are useless.....

yes i saw it on jeopardy. Heres how its relevant: the fact he was an illegal alien, was known, or could have been known with proper background check. Inaction on behalf of the state in this regard, i.e. not deporting him, creates an estoppel to the claim that he has no rights as a citizen. Its predominantly used in contract law, but broad enough to be used in many situations. I suspect the problem is you didnt realize I meant the estoppel has nothing to do with the potential outcome of the murder case. I was only suggesting this is why he is allowed rights as a citizen. Please grow up and show some respect. I dont like trash talk much. I hope that makes sense.

Lets take a look at my transcripts and see if I'm just bullshitting:
0475397
Section 1
Title Law & Business Administration
Type Lecture
Term 2008 Inter/Summer
Session Full semester
Campus Windsor
Status Wait List Exists
Course Credits Regular
Final Grade A
Note N/A
Description A survey of the law pertaining to business administration. Topics include: the legal approach to business problems, contracts, sale of goods, bills of exchange, agency, bailment, real property, partnerships, corporations, and bankruptcy. (Prerequisite: Semester 5 standing or above or permission of instructor.)


Nope. I'm not.

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ you talk shit all the time ...but u r right ..i misinterpreted your application...thus the capitol offense comment ... ....was i astonished someone that says as many stupid things as you even knew the word...damn straight ...

[JiGGaMaN]

^^^ you talk shit all the time ...but u r right ..i misinterpreted your application...thus the capitol offense comment ... ....was i astonished someone that says as many stupid things as you even knew the word...damn straight ...

its all gravy. you never know who you might be talking to on the forums.

[Bojangles69]

Yo esto el immigrante illegales.

y todos tu m/fkrs estas eviles assholes.

[binder]

Yo esto el immigrante illegales.

y todos tu m/fkrs estas eviles assholes.

if you do'nt like us then leave our country. easy fix

[Odpierdol_sie!]

You lot are like a bunch of fvcking kids

You are all Immigrants, illegal or other wise! unless of course you are of the 2% of native Americans.

Spout legislation and make up words to suit your policies but at the end of the day all your policies do is aid to stop honest people becoming citizens of the USA.

If a decent ordinary person from the western world cant enter the US let alone become a citizen what hope does a under educated person for a 3rd world country have!

You have made your bed and now you got to lay on it, so quit fvcking moaning and get on with your life!