Strength increase

[energizer bunny]

what do you know enter the thread in QA leave the thread sitting in the lounge....

[xnotoriousx]

YUMMMMMMMMMY~~~~~~

[energizer bunny]

^^^^^ excellent......

[CBGB]

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Alright, the gigs up!!! Who's in the Avy???????? Please, oh , Please, oh, Please!!!!!!

[stack_it]

this thread should have came with a complimentary aspirin and a massage from the girl in the avi!

[BuffThaStuff]

bump for Alexia

[DSM4Life]

2......

[ni4ni]

x3 i hope

[ROIDSR4ME]

I am alright with math but I am confused as hell.... Girl in the avi kinda made it worth it to be confused though...

[Friend]

I'm in love

[GORILA-UNIT]

HOLY CRAP - i think i just fell in love with whoever that is in your avy.....

~Haz~

word

[sizerp]

HOLY CRAP - i think i just fell in love with whoever that is in your avy.....

~Haz~

Yeh I was like *drool*

[JiGGaMaN]

what will taking the mean of the increase of a bunch of different exercises do? just because you included more exercise doesnt mean its a better indicator of overall gain in strength. it probably would have been better to use the 'core' exercises: bench, squat, dead. and took the average of that increase instead. the results would be meaningless if you were able to obtain any data from anyone. i mean, no one knows the answer to those. it assumes we even do all those exercises, and that we recorded all these things and have them at our disposal. i dont know what else to tell you. if you need help with ideas for a significant poll with meaningful results, i have a few statistics courses under my belt.

[sizerp]

what will taking the mean of the increase of a bunch of different exercises do? just because you included more exercise doesnt mean its a better indicator of overall gain in strength. it probably would have been better to use the 'core' exercises: bench, squat, dead. and took the average of that increase instead. the results would be meaningless if you were able to obtain any data from anyone. i mean, no one knows the answer to those. it assumes we even do all those exercises, and that we recorded all these things and have them at our disposal. i dont know what else to tell you. if you need help with ideas for a significant poll with meaningful results, i have a few statistics courses under my belt.

I doubt his intentions were to investigate the pure science of str increase, but moerso an objective foresight into possible str gains he'll see when he jumps on cycle? Just speculating.

[BJJ]

what will taking the mean of the increase of a bunch of different exercises do? just because you included more exercise doesnt mean its a better indicator of overall gain in strength. it probably would have been better to use the 'core' exercises: bench, squat, dead. and took the average of that increase instead. the results would be meaningless if you were able to obtain any data from anyone. i mean, no one knows the answer to those. it assumes we even do all those exercises, and that we recorded all these things and have them at our disposal. i dont know what else to tell you. if you need help with ideas for a significant poll with meaningful results, i have a few statistics courses under my belt.

I disagree with your considerations but at least you were the only one who answered seriously.
By the way, except for pulley, all the exercises meant are "core". Perhaps you didn't even read the list of those.

[-Ender-]

Bump for a comment from Alexia.

Also, I agree with JiGGaMaN.
This "study" will not show you a representative example of strength gains due in large to the fact that everyone is different and will gain in those muscle groups differently due to differences in: compounds, workout routine, diet, muscle condition at the time of cycle, and so on.
Might have something to do with why it wasn't taken seriously.

[BJJ]

Bump for a comment from Alexia.

Also, I agree with JiGGaMaN.
This "study" will not show you a representative example of strength gains due in large to the fact that everyone is different and will gain in those muscle groups differently due to differences in: compounds, workout routine, diet, muscle condition at the time of cycle, and so on. You have no idea what you are talking about. I just wanted to have a statistical among the guys on the forum, no big deal I would say. If this study won't be representative is only because you guys are not going to answer.
Might have something to do with why it wasn't taken seriously. Simple, because the majority of the people are not serious!

If this thread had been started by one of the oldest here, everyone or almost like little puppies, would have followed it.
Many of you just follow because you need to follow... you need a guide! This is very well visible on the whole of the posts around.

Now, I tell you Good Night, I have got a ghost to catch...

[Mooseman33]

maybe it is just u that has the problem. u have been a real stick in the mud, and thats to say it nice.
i really dont like the way u talk down on people here, like u are better.
if u dont like the answers u get or the place where u put them, please go elsewhere.

snob

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

[BJJ]

maybe it is just u that has the problem. u have been a real stick in the mud, and thats to say it nice.
i really dont like the way u talk down on people here, like u are better.
if u dont like the answers u get or the place where u put them, please go elsewhere.

snob you have no idea what that word means

I believe you have no right to "expell" me covertly from this forum.
Only the admin owner can.

So, before writing think twice.

PS
If you don't like me, as you quoted previously, why do you keep writing me?
Just ignore me, do not reply to my threads. Very easy.

[BJJ]

It is quite obvious in here I have found adults and children.
From now on I shall try to deal only with ADULTS...

and let the children to grow up.
After all, I was a kid too.

[BJJ]

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[sizerp]

BJJ have you started your cycle yet?

[BJJ]

Not yet, I am waiting still for nolva and clomid to come since I have on hand all the rest.

[sizerp]

Not yet, I am waiting still for nolva and clomid to come since I have on hand all the rest.

Good man! What is your cycle again?

[BJJ]

This what I am going to do:

Stats: 36yo, 6'1.5 ft, 191 lbs, 9 bf

Cycle:

Bulking
Week 1-12
Test e 500 mgs EW (mon/thu, 250 each)

PCT
W1 clomid 100mgs ED, nolva 40mgs ED
W2 clomid 50mgs ED, nolva 40mgs ED
W3 clomid 50mgs ED, nolva 20mgs ED
W4 clomid 50mgs ED, nolva 20mgs ED

1. If I see signs of gyno while bulking, arimidex 0,5 mg ED till they subside.
2. If my testicles shrink while bulking, HCG 250 iu ED last 2W on cycle and 2W rest before PCT, plus Nolva 20 mg ED.

[sizerp]

This what I am going to do:

Stats: 36yo, 6'1.5 ft, 191 lbs, 9 bf

Cycle:

Bulking
Week 1-12
Test e 500 mgs EW (mon/thu, 250 each)

PCT
W1 clomid 100mgs ED, nolva 40mgs ED
W2 clomid 50mgs ED, nolva 40mgs ED
W3 clomid 50mgs ED, nolva 20mgs ED
W4 clomid 50mgs ED, nolva 20mgs ED

1. If I see signs of gyno while bulking, arimidex 0,5 mg ED till they subside.
2. If my testicles shrink while bulking, HCG 250 iu ED last 2W on cycle and 2W rest before PCT, plus Nolva 20 mg ED.

Solid.

[ranging1]

questions the question says calculate ur strength increases

obviuosly people are going to gain more of a percentage strength increase in certain exercises then others

so out of the 6 exercises, do i average there increases, then vote?

[ranging1]

sorry also mate

i think ur way of measuring strength increase is poor since the more u lift, the harder it is to increase ur overall percentage in strength increase e.g

2 people

gay and bisexual

gay benchs 200kg

bisexual benchs 50kg

both increase their lifts by 20%

gay now benchs 240kg, 40kg increase

bi now benchs 60kg, 10kg increase

see my point, using percentage is misleading and inaccurate, and a poor meausurment of cycles abilitys

[ranging1]

also i noticed how ur slandering alot of people in here

try understand this is the lounge and everyone in here is basically having a joke, so u cant seriously expect to post something this serious

also since u seem to think ur a smart guy (most people in here do think ur a snob, even i think ur one just by reading ur posts, sorry to say, and ive never even posted to u, maybe u should practise on ur socialising skills) u should know people in their recreational time aint going to pull out a calcualtor and find the logs of their previous cycles and do some maths just for some random on a forum willingly..........

[BJJ]

sorry also mate

i think ur way of measuring strength increase is poor since the more u lift, the harder it is to increase ur overall percentage in strength increase e.g

2 people

gay and bisexual

gay benchs 200kg

bisexual benchs 50kg

both increase their lifts by 20%

gay now benchs 240kg, 40kg increase

bi now benchs 60kg, 10kg increase

see my point, using percentage is misleading and inaccurate, and a poor meausurment of cycles abilitys

No, YOU are misleading yourself by writing that.
What are you talking about? Read again what you have written...
Also, read again my introcuction at the beginning, since your previous message shows you didn't do it.

[BJJ]

also i noticed how ur slandering alot of people in here

try understand this is the lounge and everyone in here is basically having a joke, so u cant seriously expect to post something this serious the thread was not posted in here by myself...

also since u seem to think ur a smart guy (most people in here do think ur a snob, even i think ur one just by reading ur posts, sorry to say, and ive never even posted to u, maybe u should practise on ur socialising skills) u should know people in their recreational time aint going to pull out a calcualtor and find the logs of their previous cycles and do some maths just for some random on a forum willingly.......... you read my posts? i don't believe so! you are one of those who wants to argue, that's it.

[Hazard]

HOLY SH*T..... The things I would do to that are too disgusting to even post about.....

~Haz~

[gymnerd]

That redhead avy looks like a video game chick to me.

[gymnerd]

I would throw my back out trying to hurt that but It would be worth it.

[Juturna]

I just read all of this. My eyes are burning.

God the OP has some major problems.

Self-grandiosity if I ever saw it.

[ranging1]

No, YOU are misleading yourself by writing that.
What are you talking about? Read again what you have written...
Also, read again my introcuction at the beginning, since your previous message shows you didn't do it.

my point is ur asking for overall percentage increases averaged (since now i re read ur post)

what im pointing out is the STRONGER u r, the greater strength increase that is required to increase overall percentage

AGAIN

2 people

1 benchs 100kg, a 50% increase is now 150kg, strength increase 50kg
2 benchs 40kg, a 50% increase is now 60 kg, strength increase 20kg

U SEEE NOW, both increase their strength by EQUAL percentages BUT person 1 increased der strength by 50kg, person 2 increased der strength by 20kg

do u see my point yet??????????????????????????????????????????????

and im not here to argue, BUT the way to talk to everyone is going to cause neally everyone to argue with u

[BJJ]

my point is ur asking for overall percentage increases averaged (since now i re read ur post)

what im pointing out is the STRONGER u r, the greater strength increase that is required to increase overall percentage

AGAIN

2 people

1 benchs 100kg, a 50% increase is now 150kg, strength increase 50kg
2 benchs 40kg, a 50% increase is now 60 kg, strength increase 20kg

U SEEE NOW, both increase their strength by EQUAL percentages BUT person 1 increased der strength by 50kg, person 2 increased der strength by 20kg

do u see my point yet??????????????????????????????????????????????

and im not here to argue, BUT the way to talk to everyone is going to cause neally everyone to argue with u

Look, first of all I came here in a very friendly way but if you think I am the one who started, then you should go and look all of my threads. I just asked for help and support and I have received mostly just kicks in my ba..s.
Furthermore, I asked private help by pm(ing) some guys in here and some of those did not even reply to my msgs (well-mannered behaviour!).
Then I was told that my English is terrible and even if it was true (latest toefl score 560 so university access available), it is not polite to say to someone who you don't even know. Someone else wrote me my grammar is not correct but then when I asked to correct it no-one came along...
Did you know all of these things before judging my conduct!
So don't tell me I am the one who wants to argue, I am a person who is not willing to prostrate to anyone, just because asked to!
But if I see I am wrong I am the first who accept it since I already apologized to those who deserve it and whose comments to my posts were wrongly taken from my side.

Regarding my thread of strength, again your example shows what I wanted to know. Math is not an opinion, it's a fact but it is also fundamental to figure out the answer we receive from it.
Math is my life, I work as a sole trader engineer and I deal with numbers, charts and statistics every day, 250 days a year.

So, the 50% increase of both guys of your examples is what I needed to know from them and they would have answered both 50%. The fact that one is lifting more than another means nothing in my research since I am only looking for overall percentage strength increase and not strength increase itself related to each genetics. In that case my research would not be appropriate even though I have a simplex algorithm ready for that.
But of course, since so far only 19 people decided to answer and among those, 5 decided not to answer at all; only 14 guys among all make think, since I am not a stupid human being, that I would waste my time going again in that direction, though very interesting for all, I would say.

At the end I tell you, if you think I am here to argue you are just following those that under my menial point of view, don't like to have in a board a thinking person, ready to learn and therefore to ask, with a little knowledge on his own in a few fields among the vastness.

[Juturna]

My head hurts. I'm sure the OP will claim it's because his, "mind is better, best cause think vast and I'm so think smart, intelligent when no one is as vastly intelligent, smart in case ipso-facto I'm the greatest thread smart 50-84% mechanical, ecological engineer" but I think it's because he's an arrogant moron.

[gunslinger2]

I don't know about strength increase because I have yet to start my cycle. I'll let you know when I do.

As for BJJ trying to argue, I think he just comes across that way. I don't think he is trying to be mean to anyone.