Shocking

**BJJ** · 03-01-2010, 05:36 AM

When I watched this at first I had strange feelings about which I do not want to go over.

After a while, I can say I am very sorry for the man and for the woman, probably the wife, who saw him eaten alive from within the car.
At the same time, I think he did a very stupid thing and those animals cannot be blamed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZI9G...eature=related

**Ernst** · 03-01-2010, 05:47 AM

Darwinism at it's finest. Idiot.

**Ernst** · 03-01-2010, 05:48 AM

Here's one of my favorite YouTube videos, it seemed totally appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNak-6O8lFQ

**terraj** · 03-01-2010, 05:51 AM

I don't buy it.

Fake.

**BJJ** · 03-01-2010, 05:56 AM

Unfortunately, in the car there were also a 9 year daugther and a little boy, 2yo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQAOc...eature=related

**BJJ** · 03-01-2010, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by terraj

I don't buy it.

Fake.

Do you buy this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6986CTMnKY&NR=1

**terraj** · 03-01-2010, 06:22 AM

Oh yeah...I like that one.

No blood in the first one. Also the camera kept leaving the action to film the family....no way.

**BJJ** · 03-01-2010, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by terraj

Oh yeah...I like that one.

No blood in the first one. Also the camera kept leaving the action to film the family....no way.

I have connections and do not like to be fooled.
I shall go deeply on this video and let you know the results.

In any case, there is blood indeed, watch it closely.

**Mr.Rose** · 03-01-2010, 07:50 AM

Stupidity at its finest.

How dumb must you be to venture onto the property of one of the worlds most territorial and efficient killing machine's?

He deserved it.

Next time bring a gun or a knife and this wont happen.

That might sound cold, but he should know better. Where I'm from, if you enter the wilderness without protection, don't go running to mum when a mountain cat takes of your arm.

**Mr.Rose** · 03-01-2010, 07:53 AM

For example, going deep sea diving without either shark repellent gear or without a spear gun.

**Ernst** · 03-01-2010, 07:54 AM

**boz** · 03-01-2010, 07:58 AM

BJJ i would hate to imagine wat else u look up lol.

**slimy** · 03-01-2010, 12:54 PM

I have raised/trained many big cats over a twenty year period. These kind of things are very real to me. Most handler would agree with me, if you are attacked by a wild animal in captivity, it's your fault. You simply made a mistake. The only problem with working with wild animals is that one mistake can cost you your life. If they say they did not know that, they were either poorly trained or lying.

As far as the first video goes, I'm not sure it is real. Lions generally hunt in packs. This was a single lion take down, then the others showed up. Even a young male. In the lion world, the females take down the prey, then they let the alpha male eat first. Usually alone. When he is done, the lioness get their turn, then finally the young males are left with the scraps. With no alpha male present, and a young male involved in eating out of turn, makes me think this whole thing was staged. The video was too grainy to make out much else. None of the family tried to ram the lions with the cars or at least honk the horn to make noise. Wouldn't shock me if it happened, these kind of things happen, but I don't think so.

I am going to get flamed for this, but the second video really sickened me. Taking a revolver and killing that lion was stupid. The handler was visibly dead by cage wall. They could have easily gotten the body out without destroying the animal. I am very familiar with USDA laws and that cage is shit by US standards. The training of these people is obviously shit as well.

I personally know four people that have lost their lives by way of captive animals. One was a bear, three were tigers. I know a lot of people that have missing limbs or unusable limbs from those critters as well. It's a dangerous business, but rewarding none the less.

Wow, I got quite reflective there at the end. Sorry.

**marcus300** · 03-01-2010, 01:17 PM

Thats so sad, awful video

what a way to go!

**spywizard** · 03-01-2010, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

Do you buy this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6986CTMnKY&NR=1

where is the outrage ?? wasn't there a cub in that cage??

**BJJ** · 03-01-2010, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

where is the outrage ?? wasn't there a cub in that cage??

Never spoke about outrage.

**Swifto** · 03-01-2010, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

Do you buy this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6986CTMnKY&NR=1

Its not fair that the lion had to lose its life because some stupid c*nt got too close to the cage. F*cking idiot.

I felt for the lion, not that bleeding twat.

Edit: He was IN the cage. Even worse. What the f*ck are you doing inside a Lions cage? Nutters.

**slimy** · 03-01-2010, 02:39 PM

Just watched it again. First one is definately fake. The "cameraman" knows what he is doing. Rolling on the ground, keeping his elbow up. The lion is going after the arm that the human is 'feeding' him. Lions, by nature go for the throat. Any animal, doesn't matter. Not one throat lunge in the whole grainy video. Watch the second video. That young male is all over the throat of the handler. That is real.

Lions also have more jaw clamping pressure than any animal other than a crocodillian or hyena. They can destroy bones and tear off limbs without hesitation. There was enough left of this guy to wrap him in a blanket and put him in the car after the lions were driven off. Not going to happen. At the very least, his arms and legs would have been lion chow.

I'm sure the kids were just edited in there. They show a cheetah at the first of the vid. That was definately edited in. Cheetahs don't f*ck with lions. If a cheetah saw a lion, he would hall balls out of there.

I've done some 'rolls' with cats for video. You have to have a VERY good relationship with the cat. I would never 'roll' with more than one cat though. The 'cameraman" has balls that's for sure. I'm going to look for some old videos and see if I can post them on here.

**Flagg** · 03-01-2010, 07:51 PM

I think the first video is fake but something like this could easily happen, and when it does, well of course the animal MUST BE DESTROYED *sarcasm*.

It infuriates me when things like this happen and we have to punish a natural predator for adhering to it's nature. Do people honestly believe that a lion see's a human and thinks "oh thats a person, better leave that alone, they're important" ?

This is similiar to the case some of you may have read recently about the killer whale that dragged its trainer under until she drowned. Now they are talking about destroying this animal. I mean its 12,000 pounds and been stuck in a 20 by 25 foot tank for the last 30 years, thats like a holding cell. And the Icelandic government dont want it released into its waters because this whale is now "a killer". Seriously, you couldnt make this bullshit up.

I dont think any animal can truly be domesticated, not even cats and dogs. Dogs can still turn on people (usually because of a trigger though) and no matter how much food you give your cat, it will still go out and hunt mice and birds.

I have no sympathy for the kind of idiots that go up to dogs, pull their tails, then seem mystified that they got mauled.

EDIT: To further illustrate that there is no end to human stupidity involving carniverous animals, check this video out. I bet most of you will be able to guess how it ends before you see the ending:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG7Ek...eature=related

**BJJ** · 03-03-2010, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Its not fair that the lion had to lose its life because some stupid c*nt got too close to the cage. F*cking idiot.

I felt for the lion, not that bleeding twat.

Edit: He was IN the cage. Even worse. What the f*ck are you doing inside a Lions cage? Nutters.

Agreed.
Also, animals should not be kept in cages!... but this is another huge topic, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by slimy

Just watched it again. First one is definately fake. The "cameraman" knows what he is doing. Rolling on the ground, keeping his elbow up. The lion is going after the arm that the human is 'feeding' him. Lions, by nature go for the throat. Any animal, doesn't matter. Not one throat lunge in the whole grainy video. Watch the second video. That young male is all over the throat of the handler. That is real.

Lions also have more jaw clamping pressure than any animal other than a crocodillian or hyena. They can destroy bones and tear off limbs without hesitation. There was enough left of this guy to wrap him in a blanket and put him in the car after the lions were driven off. Not going to happen. At the very least, his arms and legs would have been lion chow.

I'm sure the kids were just edited in there. They show a cheetah at the first of the vid. That was definately edited in. Cheetahs don't f*ck with lions. If a cheetah saw a lion, he would hall balls out of there.

I've done some 'rolls' with cats for video. You have to have a VERY good relationship with the cat. I would never 'roll' with more than one cat though. The 'cameraman" has balls that's for sure. I'm going to look for some old videos and see if I can post them on here.

Still checking if you are right...
Please share your videos.

Originally Posted by Flagg

I think the first video is fake but something like this could easily happen, and when it does, well of course the animal MUST BE DESTROYED *sarcasm*.

It infuriates me when things like this happen and we have to punish a natural predator for adhering to it's nature. Do people honestly believe that a lion see's a human and thinks "oh thats a person, better leave that alone, they're important" ?

This is similiar to the case some of you may have read recently about the killer whale that dragged its trainer under until she drowned. Now they are talking about destroying this animal. I mean its 12,000 pounds and been stuck in a 20 by 25 foot tank for the last 30 years, thats like a holding cell. And the Icelandic government dont want it released into its waters because this whale is now "a killer". Seriously, you couldnt make this bullshit up.

I dont think any animal can truly be domesticated, not even cats and dogs. Dogs can still turn on people (usually because of a trigger though) and no matter how much food you give your cat, it will still go out and hunt mice and birds.

I have no sympathy for the kind of idiots that go up to dogs, pull their tails, then seem mystified that they got mauled.

EDIT: To further illustrate that there is no end to human stupidity involving carniverous animals, check this video out. I bet most of you will be able to guess how it ends before you see the ending:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG7Ek...eature=related

This guy was lucky his entire hand was not bitten.
Perhaps the next time...

**BJJ** · 03-03-2010, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by boz88

BJJ i would hate to imagine wat else u look up lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVMhuiHm50I

**kerrbear** · 03-03-2010, 03:15 PM

i remember seeing this video before and i think it is in fact a fake. it was shot for a movie or to show the dangers of big cats and why you should never get out of your car in a wild life park

**marcus300** · 03-03-2010, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVMhuiHm50I

Your so odd BJJ lol

**Mooseman33** · 03-03-2010, 03:29 PM

everytime i see a pug i think of Frank from men in black....

what a funny ass dog...
i bought one once, returned it the next day, little fvker kept me up all night...

**BJJ** · 03-03-2010, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Your so odd BJJ lol

You have no idea how much, lol.

**BJJ** · 03-03-2010, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

everytime i see a pug i think of Frank from men in black....

what a funny ass dog...
i bought one once, returned it the next day, little fvker kept me up all night...

I am sorry you did not give him/her a chance...

**TITANIUM** · 03-03-2010, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

When I watched this at first I had strange feelings about which I do not want to go over.

After a while, I can say I am very sorry for the man and for the woman, probably the wife, who saw him eaten alive from within the car.
At the same time, I think he did a very stupid thing and those animals cannot be blamed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZI9G...eature=related

That was disturbing........................

Best

T

**Mooseman33** · 03-03-2010, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

I am sorry you did not give him/her a chance...

worked out great, it allowed me to get the dog that was meant for me..

my little Penny Lane (minicher pinchure)..

She is the best thing to ever happen to me....yes im that pathetic..

**BJJ** · 03-03-2010, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

worked out great, it allowed me to get the dog that was meant for me..

my little Penny Lane (minicher pinchure)..

She is the best thing to ever happen to me....yes im that pathetic..

No, you are not...
http://www.mini-pinscher.it/

**jbm** · 03-03-2010, 04:26 PM

stupid!!!! guy!

**slimy** · 03-04-2010, 04:30 AM

I feel like I spoke out of turn. My old videos are on something ancient ( like cave paintings) called 'video tape'. I'm sure none of you youngin's have never heard of that. They are in a box somewhere and I haven't as of yet been able to locate them.

Here is a shot of me swimming with three ( only two in the pic) young female white tigers. These girls are sisters and all are in the 200- 250 lb pound range. Fully intact ( teeth, claws, sex organs) . I'm the one with the ridiculous beard.

**slimy** · 03-04-2010, 04:38 AM

Here is an american alligator. Notice I'm not sticking my hand IN his mouth....

**terraj** · 03-04-2010, 05:31 AM

Great pics Slimy...apart from the beard

**Flagg** · 03-04-2010, 05:36 AM

Slimy, what do you do to be able to be in such proximity to cool animals like that?

**marcus300** · 03-04-2010, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by slimy

I feel like I spoke out of turn. My old videos are on something ancient ( like cave paintings) called 'video tape'. I'm sure none of you youngin's have never heard of that. They are in a box somewhere and I haven't as of yet been able to locate them.

Here is a shot of me swimming with three ( only two in the pic) young female white tigers. These girls are sisters and all are in the 200- 250 lb pound range. Fully intact ( teeth, claws, sex organs) . I'm the one with the ridiculous beard.

You must have balls like sand bags

**Ernst** · 03-04-2010, 06:04 AM

I might be a little jealous of you slimy. That looks awesome. My goal is to work with wild animals, albeit ones that couldn't really eat you on a whim. Working as a volunteer at a local wildlife rescue I've gotten to work with some cool local creatures, but it doesn't pay

**gunslinger2** · 03-04-2010, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Rose

Stupidity at its finest.

How dumb must you be to venture onto the property of one of the worlds most territorial and efficient killing machine's?

He deserved it.

Next time bring a gun or a knife and this wont happen.

That might sound cold, but he should know better. Where I'm from, if you enter the wilderness without protection, don't go running to mum when a mountain cat takes of your arm.

I could not agree more! If you are stupid enough to be that close to a lion and unarmed you deserve what ever you get.

**illaJ** · 03-04-2010, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by BJJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVMhuiHm50I

hahahahhhahahaah

**F4iGuy** · 03-04-2010, 07:53 AM

Slimy... I'm not sure if thats incredibly awesome or crazy. Those tigers are beautiful. I remember last time I was at the zoo a male lion was roaring (he kept walking to the indoor part of his cage). The halls were reverberating and kids started to cry. This lasted about 10 minutes.

**Mooseman33** · 03-04-2010, 08:47 AM

Slimy- you are the craziest / coolest guy around.
i would love to have a pic like that, that is cool as hell...

u are one crazy sob....if u have any other pics put them up....

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