Getting divorced

[calgarian]

Make no mistake about it. She has always thought she was hot shit, and the implants have made her worse. She got them when she was with her ex, not me. But up until our engagement was broke off, I was the only other person she had been with except him. Truth be told, her moms the same way and she is following in her footsteps. She broke off our engagement and was running around with her still legally married husband! Of course she lied to me about nothing happened. I know she did. Truth is she has been around, and Im sure more than I know.

I am going to try and get my child. I do not want her to model herself after my wife by no means. I want whats best for her, and not seeing her is putting me in a state of serious depression.
I believe my wifes life has been very affected by her mother, and though she always said she didn't want to end up like her, she is heading down that way. Hell she had to quit talking to her mom to get back with me.My wife has "daddy issues" as she has only met hers once, so she is attracted to guys with kids. I don't know how much I have to go on to get custody, but I know I can tell you this much:

Her mom - married and divorced 3 times, 3 kids, 3 different fathers. Engaged I dont know how many more times

my wife - 26 yrs old, married and divorced 2 times (soon to be), 2 kids, 2 different fathers, pregnant 2 other times, in which she had a miscarriage once, then an abortion.

I am just a lot more stable than she is, and so is my family. I do have another child by another woman, other than that I have never been married, was engaged in which that ended as well to no fault of my own. Turns out her and my wife are alot alike, I see that now. I come from a great background, my parents just celebrated their 46th anniversary. I did not pull out of my marriage, I stayed committed no matter how she shit on me, until I seen what I seen and I told her she wants her divorce, she can have it. But deep inside it kills me. I wanted out of my marriage what any person would want, wife and kids. I just can't believe this girl who I seen as my best friend and love of my life, turned like this and can show no caring or compassion whatsoever for me.
She literally just started showing a loss of interest, and wasn't happy anymore. Blamed it on I should do more to help her? Are you kidding me? So, I ran around like a slave trying to make her happy, well she sat and told me nothing was good enough. It may end up being a blessing.

There is an old sayin gin East indian Culture...."You dont marry one person you marry the Family". I know why u want it to work cause thats how u have seen ur parents and all the ppl in your family...Just another piece of advise next time get the girl with a good family background and make sure ur kid doesnt follow her Mom's step...

For you she was love of ur life but for her you were just a step to get her going where she wanted to go.....I personally know a girl here who thinks who is the hot shit and have 3 divorces under her belt and still thinks that she will get anyman she wants....well most ppl think of her as a slut....the girls who think they are hot keep forgetting one thing all the Men who think they are hot wants...just want to fvck them and thats all they want to do with them.

Bro...let her go..take care of ur kid. Time is the biggest medicine of all. u gotta keep it together for your kid.

[D3m3nt3d]

Thanks guys. I am getting together everything I know to get, phone records, text messages, the IM conversation etc. Also I hear she has a facebook picture of everyone laughing because they have my daughters bathing suit pulled all up her crack where her butt cheeks are hanging out.

To me, that shit is not funny. Facebook has over 400 MILLION people, there is no telling how many pedophiles are on it. Two, everyone laughing thinking its some kind of joke, when clearly it would be uncomfortable to her. I mean she is 17 months man, not like she can defend herself with that.

[calgarian]

Thanks guys. I am getting together everything I know to get, phone records, text messages, the IM conversation etc. Also I hear she has a facebook picture of everyone laughing because they have my daughters bathing suit pulled all up her crack where her butt cheeks are hanging out.

To me, that shit is not funny. Facebook has over 400 MILLION people, there is no telling how many pedophiles are on it. Two, everyone laughing thinking its some kind of joke, when clearly it would be uncomfortable to her. I mean she is 17 months man, not like she can defend herself with that.

get a good lawyer....make an example out of her for all the fvcking women who thinks they can walk over a good hearted man like u.

[zaggahamma]

She is coming tomorrow to move shit out, and one of my best friends who ironically, also has a child with her. (Her son i speak of) is coming to help her. She figured thats the only guy she could get to help where i wouldn't flip out.

I don't know why the hell a little part of me wants her back. I guess because I was committed, I want my daughter everyday, and I poured so much into this to get her thru school. Now, she is a nurse and I am going to get no benefit from this. It doesnt help she is smoking hot and has nice implants lol. But, I have really showed her no inclination I would try again, she has been wanting out and nothing is going to change that. Nothing I could say is going to make her mind change. But, she will regret it rather she ever tells me so or not.

Not only have I given her everything to just be ****ed over. Now she gets my daughter everyday, all the furniture was hers as I sold all mine, and she is going to get child support from me.

you'll do BETTER and she'll miss you GUARANTEE...best revenge is living well

[Shinalynn]

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I just can't believe this girl who I seen as my best friend and love of my life, turned like this and can show no caring or compassion whatsoever for me.
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This happens so much, and it sucks. My fav sayin finding someone for the rest of your life is alot harder than it looks.

[nbkandrew13]

dude she is absolutely going to use your compassion against u , tyrying to control the sit, just hide itbas best u can and get a good atty,

[D3m3nt3d]

get a good lawyer....make an example out of her for all the fvcking women who thinks they can walk over a good hearted man like u.

I have one, she handled my last custody case. I just can't get in until the 28th, she is booked. But, she is one of the 2 best in town.

[zaggahamma]

I have one, she handled my last custody case. I just can't get in until the 28th, she is booked. But, she is one of the 2 best in town.

is she married

[calgarian]

I have one, she handled my last custody case. I just can't get in until the 28th, she is booked. But, she is one of the 2 best in town.

good...keep us posted

[D3m3nt3d]

dude she is absolutely going to use your compassion against u , tyrying to control the sit, just hide itbas best u can and get a good atty,

What you mean use my compassion against me? She has no desire to be nothing but civil right this moment, and she doesn't know I have all of this stuff and what I plan to do.

[zaggahamma]

What you mean use my compassion against me? She has no desire to be nothing but civil right this moment, and she doesn't know I have all of this stuff and what I plan to do.

he means..DONT show her any compassion ANYMORE

[D3m3nt3d]

he means..DONT show her any compassion ANYMORE

Not going to lie, I thought about sending her an email sort of as a last ditch effort before moves her stuff out today. But, nothing else I have said/done has worked, not to mention what I caught her doing. So, I do not see the point. If I used our kids as a guilt trip, same shit would happen anyway.

[zaggahamma]

Not going to lie, I thought about sending her an email sort of as a last ditch effort before moves her stuff out today. But, nothing else I have said/done has worked, not to mention what I caught her doing. So, I do not see the point. If I used our kids as a guilt trip, same shit would happen anyway.

Sorry, effort for what... i was under the impression that you were wanting to end the relationship..my bad

[D3m3nt3d]

Sorry, effort for what... i was under the impression that you were wanting to end the relationship..my bad

I have alot of mixed emotions right now. I feel the way she has flat out fvcked me after everything I did for her, along with the fact she doesn't have the human decency to even apologize to me, that she does not deserve me, nor would I be able to ever trust her. The little bit we did touch on the subject of her and that other guy, she lied about and made it sound like it wasn't a big deal. They are probably making their plans already since his girlfriend dumped him. I mean it was 8 yrs ago when she was like 18, why rekindle something like that? But, I guess for the reason that I do love her unconditionally, and she was truely my best friend, part of me wants her.

Not to mention I would see my child everyday like any father should want to. But, she had made it clear over the months that she didn't love me anymore, had no desire for me etc...then would go thru a phase of telling me she loved me again. You never knew when to believe it. Then we finally reached a month where it sounded sincere again, altho not every aspect had fully come back ie. sex, any passionate kisses etc. Things were better.

I seen another conversation with another married man, I assume a friend asking for her number and she gave it to him. He was saying he was sorry to hear that, and she knew he could talk to him about anything. I didn't suspect much there, she was talking about getting his place from him as he and his wife are moving away.

Then altho things seemed great for a month, somewhere either before then or during that time, she had told a girl that she was leaving me, because the girl asked her if she was still planning on leaving or staying. She said she didnt know, things had been better, but it still didn't feel like what she thought married love should be. She didn't think those were married feelings, and they didn't seem like enough, but I was her best friend. All bullshit.

[thegodfather]

I have alot of mixed emotions right now. I feel the way she has flat out fvcked me after everything I did for her, along with the fact she doesn't have the human decency to even apologize to me, that she does not deserve me, nor would I be able to ever trust her. The little bit we did touch on the subject of her and that other guy, she lied about and made it sound like it wasn't a big deal. They are probably making their plans already since his girlfriend dumped him. I mean it was 8 yrs ago when she was like 18, why rekindle something like that? But, I guess for the reason that I do love her unconditionally, and she was truely my best friend, part of me wants her.

Not to mention I would see my child everyday like any father should want to. But, she had made it clear over the months that she didn't love me anymore, had no desire for me etc...then would go thru a phase of telling me she loved me again. You never knew when to believe it. Then we finally reached a month where it sounded sincere again, altho not every aspect had fully come back ie. sex, any passionate kisses etc. Things were better.

I seen another conversation with another married man, I assume a friend asking for her number and she gave it to him. He was saying he was sorry to hear that, and she knew he could talk to him about anything. I didn't suspect much there, she was talking about getting his place from him as he and his wife are moving away.

Then altho things seemed great for a month, somewhere either before then or during that time, she had told a girl that she was leaving me, because the girl asked her if she was still planning on leaving or staying. She said she didnt know, things had been better, but it still didn't feel like what she thought married love should be. She didn't think those were married feelings, and they didn't seem like enough, but I was her best friend. All bullshit.

You need to take a huge huge step back and look at what you just wrote objectively and rationally. Try as hard as you can (and its very hard) to divorce your feelins for a second from your brain. Look at what you wrote with logic and reasoning, and leave emotion out of it. You talked about a "good month" here and there. Is that really how you want to live the rest of your entire life? Having good months, there are 12 months in a year, and A LOT of years in FOREVER. Honestly, if you are on this forum, and I assume that you do workout and are in good shape, that means MOST LIKELY you have a very good sense of self-worth and dignity. Do not bring yourself down to the level that she is at, seeking relationships outside of your marriage in order to quell her insecurities and validate her self-worth. I am sure that you know that given what you do for her, and what you bring to the table, that you do not deserve to be treated like a piece of meaningless shit.

Toss her shit out of your house, goto court, get custody of your kids, and never speak to her ever again. My 2 cents, for what its worth.

[calgarian]

You need to take a huge huge step back and look at what you just wrote objectively and rationally. Try as hard as you can (and its very hard) to divorce your feelins for a second from your brain. Look at what you wrote with logic and reasoning, and leave emotion out of it. You talked about a "good month" here and there. Is that really how you want to live the rest of your entire life? Having good months, there are 12 months in a year, and A LOT of years in FOREVER. Honestly, if you are on this forum, and I assume that you do workout and are in good shape, that means MOST LIKELY you have a very good sense of self-worth and dignity. Do not bring yourself down to the level that she is at, seeking relationships outside of your marriage in order to quell her insecurities and validate her self-worth. I am sure that you know that given what you do for her, and what you bring to the table, that you do not deserve to be treated like a piece of meaningless shit.

Toss her shit out of your house, goto court, get custody of your kids, and never speak to her ever again. My 2 cents, for what its worth.

Couldnt say it any better

[D3m3nt3d]

Well she is out. She left shit around the house trying to take personal shots at me, what a waste. She had cupcakes left on the table, a piece of lingerie still hanging up that i missed, and condoms on my sink with "size matters!" "big where it counts" logos on them haha.

And here I'm like, bitch you KNOW i blew your mind in the bed, Mrs "we got to find you thicker condoms"

[zaggahamma]

Well she is out. She left shit around the house trying to take personal shots at me, what a waste. She had cupcakes left on the table, a piece of lingerie still hanging up that i missed, and condoms on my sink with "size matters!" "big where it counts" logos on them haha.

And here I'm like, bitch you KNOW i blew your mind in the bed, Mrs "we got to find you thicker condoms"

only thing to say to that is atleast it made things clearer to the way she really is

like i said b4 live good....you love your child so unfortunately she'll be able to see you again...live good

[D3m3nt3d]

only thing to say to that is atleast it made things clearer to the way she really is

like i said b4 live good....you love your child so unfortunately she'll be able to see you again...live good

Yeah thats the problem. I wouldn't replace my daughter for anything, but I wish it was not with her so I could just write her off completely.

[D3m3nt3d]

I guess I just want her to realize she ****ed up. We had split up one time, where she ran off, then was quick to come back and jump in the bed with me, and we've been together ever since.

Do you guys ever think she will get hers before its all said and done? You just don't do this shit to people.

[zaggahamma]

I guess I just want her to realize she ****ed up. We had split up one time, where she ran off, then was quick to come back and jump in the bed with me, and we've been together ever since.

Do you guys ever think she will get hers before its all said and done? You just don't do this shit to people.

i would think she lives with something everyday if she's capable of what you've told us especially how she went off on you when she was the guilty party....she must have some secret or buried issues and lives with it EVERYDAY

[Hazard]

i would think she lives with something everyday if she's capable of what you've told us especially how she went off on you when she was the guilty party....she must have some secret or buried issues and lives with it EVERYDAY

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking...... she has her demons.

It may not be the best advice...... but it helps IMO...... Get legally seperated so you can start trolling for tail again. After laying the pipe to a few broads, your confidence will be sky high again and you can begin to enjoy your life again.

~Haz~

[D3m3nt3d]

I definitely need to do something to get my mind off shit. I just analyze something different every single day. Stuff that shouldn't even matter anymore. I should be trying to forget all these details, not remember them all. Just makes things worse.

[Hazard]

I definitely need to do something to get my mind off shit. I just analyze something different every single day. Stuff that shouldn't even matter anymore. I should be trying to forget all these details, not remember them all. Just makes things worse.

I know exactly how you feel and what your thinking..... I had some problems with the wife when she was hooked on pain killers. I had reason to suspect things but couldn't prove them..... my thoughts ran wild..... in the end I was driving myself nuts - this continued even after she went for treatment. The best I felt was when she was in rehab for a month and I knew she was locked in there LOL.

Eventually time healed everything.... we did a lot of talking. Point being tho.... your mind is your worst enemy. You really have to find something to take your mind off things to keep your sanity.....

~Haz~

[D3m3nt3d]

I know exactly how you feel and what your thinking..... I had some problems with the wife when she was hooked on pain killers. I had reason to suspect things but couldn't prove them..... my thoughts ran wild..... in the end I was driving myself nuts - this continued even after she went for treatment. The best I felt was when she was in rehab for a month and I knew she was locked in there LOL.

Eventually time healed everything.... we did a lot of talking. Point being tho.... your mind is your worst enemy. You really have to find something to take your mind off things to keep your sanity.....

~Haz~

I am going to have to communicate with her, we have a child together. I wish I could just write her off, but I can't. She didn't bring our child yesterday while she was moving, I was under the impression she was going to.

I just get something different locked in me each day, memories that I should ne trying to forget all about bro like intimate details and shit. I'm trying to remember them all, when I should be trying to forget them.

[Swifto]

I have alot of mixed emotions right now. I feel the way she has flat out fvcked me after everything I did for her, along with the fact she doesn't have the human decency to even apologize to me, that she does not deserve me, nor would I be able to ever trust her. The little bit we did touch on the subject of her and that other guy, she lied about and made it sound like it wasn't a big deal. They are probably making their plans already since his girlfriend dumped him. I mean it was 8 yrs ago when she was like 18, why rekindle something like that? But, I guess for the reason that I do love her unconditionally, and she was truely my best friend, part of me wants her.

Not to mention I would see my child everyday like any father should want to. But, she had made it clear over the months that she didn't love me anymore, had no desire for me etc...then would go thru a phase of telling me she loved me again. You never knew when to believe it. Then we finally reached a month where it sounded sincere again, altho not every aspect had fully come back ie. sex, any passionate kisses etc. Things were better.

I seen another conversation with another married man, I assume a friend asking for her number and she gave it to him. He was saying he was sorry to hear that, and she knew he could talk to him about anything. I didn't suspect much there, she was talking about getting his place from him as he and his wife are moving away.

Then altho things seemed great for a month, somewhere either before then or during that time, she had told a girl that she was leaving me, because the girl asked her if she was still planning on leaving or staying. She said she didnt know, things had been better, but it still didn't feel like what she thought married love should be. She didn't think those were married feelings, and they didn't seem like enough, but I was her best friend. All bullshit.

I know what you mean by "mixed emotions".

I have just gone through (still getting over it) a break up 5 week ago.

We were still talking and doing stuff as bf/gf, no sex though, but kissing and affection. Then I found out she spend the night with some university student and had a one night stand.

I was angry, thats an understatment, but part of me wanted and wants her back even now.

I know thats not right, but I understand your mixed up mind at the moment, I still feel it now.

There is nothing worse than a broken heart mate. Nothing I have ever been through is worse.

[Swifto]

I know exactly how you feel and what your thinking..... I had some problems with the wife when she was hooked on pain killers. I had reason to suspect things but couldn't prove them..... my thoughts ran wild..... in the end I was driving myself nuts - this continued even after she went for treatment. The best I felt was when she was in rehab for a month and I knew she was locked in there LOL.

Eventually time healed everything.... we did a lot of talking. Point being tho.... your mind is your worst enemy. You really have to find something to take your mind off things to keep your sanity.....

~Haz~

It certainly is.

I cannot stand my ex even going out for a drink. I f*cking hate it. The thought pf her with another bloke makes me reach for my f*cking can of petrol, blow torch, drill and cork screw.

But at the end of the day, what can you do?

[D3m3nt3d]

I know what you mean by "mixed emotions".

I have just gone through (still getting over it) a break up 5 week ago.

We were still talking and doing stuff as bf/gf, no sex though, but kissing and affection. Then I found out she spend the night with some university student and had a one night stand.

I was angry, thats an understatment, but part of me wanted and wants her back even now.

I know thats not right, but I understand your mixed up mind at the moment, I still feel it now.

There is nothing worse than a broken heart mate. Nothing I have ever been through is worse.

Hey Swift. I remember seeing where you were going thru some stuff. Hope it gets better for you man. I feel the exact same way, what can you do? I knew this guy since high school, not a friend but he was well aware of two things:
1. She was married
2. I am not the one to fvck with

Problem is, he started thinking with the wrong head, and didn't think they would get caught. Beating his ass is going to do what? Put me in jail, and lose any hope I have of getting custody of my child. Not worth it mate. No matter what she has done, I do love her deeply, as a husband should love his wife. It's for better or worse. That's why I feel I want her back even still a little. But, in the end it would be a constant mindfvck.

I know what we had, I know our lives were really busy, so alot of sex was really out of the question, and when it happened, it became routine. But, I also know how dynamic it was beforehand, and I know by how she reacted, let alone everything she has always complimented, that she loved it. So, for intimacy to be such a big issue the last 6 months, and then catch her having conversations about a previous partner being "pretty amazing"...let alone leaving condoms on my sink, where the labels show "size matters" yadda yadda, like that was a problem, it's a slap to the self esteem. All I ever did was love her and her son, and gave her the two things she wanted most. To be a nurse, and to have a daughter. Then I get my world ripped right out from under me.

[D3m3nt3d]

Ok, lets talk about this for a second. Since I have been numbing the pain since about 5 oclock today so to speak.

My marriage: There was nothing more important to me. EVerything I said, all I did, it all revolved around my wife and my children. I took 2 jobs, I worked 7 days a week. I went BANKRUPT, to support the ones I loved most. My "best friend", and our children. I have alot of great memories in all of this, and in the end I get a horror story.

Nothing ever changed in our marriage, other than nursing school, and having a baby which are BIG things. But, school was to better US, a new baby should bring us JOY. Guess what I got? I got it thrown in my face, that all these things created distance, and we grew apart. **** everything I did, you know tell me you dont love me, you have no desire for me. What started as a dynamic sex life, went to pretty routine. When we did it, yea it was great for both of us. But, due to the fact of our busy lives, it didnt happen as much as I would have liked it to. What do I get in return? Her having private chat and text messages about sex they had 9 yrs ago. very ****ing graphic details/

So my wife graduates, she doesnt love me anymore. She walks out with what? everything. My child, all the furniture, everything. I have seen my child since day one. A child that I love more than my own life. EVERYDAY I came home, and I talked to my wifes stomach, everyday. I was not perfect, but in our whole marriage, we had ONE fight. I did what she asked, because her happiness was my happiness. Happy wife, happy life. Not only does she move, she wants to leave stuff around the house, to insult me and our sex life, KNOWING damn well what she thought of it at one time. She sits in front of me with her ex's sister, and gives her a hi five when they are done moving out. All of this, because I sacrificed everything I have, my own self, both physically and mentally, to show that my family is #1. If I say this to her, know what I get? She will try and pin point something I didn't do perfectly. She has no care or consideration of what I'm going thru. I guarantee partying is #1 on her priority list for this weekend. It's not a breakup, this isn't high school, it was a MARRIAGE. I ****ing meant for better or worse when I said it, and I have damn sure proved it.

Now, back at square one, 30 yrs old. 2 girls, by 2 different girls. Doesn't exactly make me look like the best bachelor I know, but another woman is the last thing on my mind. I just want back what it was that made me want to live everyday, my family.

[cherrydrpepper]

I don't know how this feels but I know I can't give up. One thing that helps me is I set goals daily and try to attain them. Even if its something simple like a new lift that helps.

You're 30 years old I am about the same age. You are going to live 50+ years more in all likelihood. Just stay strong and don't let this defeat you. Too many people myself included at times live in the past for years and years. The best thing is to grieve and get it out, then move on to greater things. This won't beat you you will come back stronger than ever in mind body and soul.

[40plusnewbie]

Hey Swift. I remember seeing where you were going thru some stuff. Hope it gets better for you man. I feel the exact same way, what can you do? I knew this guy since high school, not a friend but he was well aware of two things:
1. She was married
2. I am not the one to fvck with

Problem is, he started thinking with the wrong head, and didn't think they would get caught. Beating his ass is going to do what? Put me in jail, and lose any hope I have of getting custody of my child. Not worth it mate. No matter what she has done, I do love her deeply, as a husband should love his wife. It's for better or worse. That's why I feel I want her back even still a little. But, in the end it would be a constant mindfvck.

I know what we had, I know our lives were really busy, so alot of sex was really out of the question, and when it happened, it became routine. But, I also know how dynamic it was beforehand, and I know by how she reacted, let alone everything she has always complimented, that she loved it. So, for intimacy to be such a big issue the last 6 months, and then catch her having conversations about a previous partner being "pretty amazing"...let alone leaving condoms on my sink, where the labels show "size matters" yadda yadda, like that was a problem, it's a slap to the self esteem. All I ever did was love her and her son, and gave her the two things she wanted most. To be a nurse, and to have a daughter. Then I get my world ripped right out from under me.

There are Four elements to the perfect crime. Follow these to the letter and you will NEVER get caught for ANY crime,
EVER.

1. Do it alone.
2. Be seen by no one (this would include the victim, assuming they were to live to testify).
3. Tell no one.
4. Leave no tracks.

It's as simple as that (although #4 gets harder and harder with hing profile crimes due to forensics).

I'm not advocating you kill him, but there are lots of ways to punish a person.

You must be smart to attempt to successfully pull off the perfect crime or don't even try.

p.s. I be a law biding citizen who never broke a law in my life.

[zaggahamma]

I don't know how this feels but I know I can't give up. One thing that helps me is I set goals daily and try to attain them. Even if its something simple like a new lift that helps.

You're 30 years old I am about the same age. You are going to live 50+ years more in all likelihood. Just stay strong and don't let this defeat you. Too many people myself included at times live in the past for years and years. The best thing is to grieve and get it out, then move on to greater things. This won't beat you you will come back stronger than ever in mind body and soul.

great advice

[D3m3nt3d]

There is alot of great advice in here. My problem is, I just still want her back which is STUPID. But, it only goes to show that I love her like a husband should love his wife, unconditionally. I know she fell out of love with me a long time ago, hell if she even loved me at all tho. Thing is, if I would have been the one in school, and she did all the working and supported me and my child, I would be MORE attracted to her, I would have more desire for her. It takes a coldhearted person to do what she has done.

[Shinalynn]

There is alot of great advice in here. My problem is, I just still want her back which is STUPID. But, it only goes to show that I love her like a husband should love his wife, unconditionally. I know she fell out of love with me a long time ago, hell if she even loved me at all tho. Thing is, if I would have been the one in school, and she did all the working and supported me and my child, I would be MORE attracted to her, I would have more desire for her. It takes a coldhearted person to do what she has done.

If it helps, I will tell you a bit about my baby daddy aka my first husband. He was emotionally and physically abusive, but I loved him more than I loved myself. I left him, because I loved my daughter more than I loved him. I didnt want her to grow up and see him doing this to me and think it was ok, and maybe be in the same situation. ANYWAY, we had a NASTY custody battle, at one point I moved to England and took her with me. We had alot of bad blood between us. Here it is 8 years later, and we get along better than we ever have. It took both of us to let go, and look at eachother in a different way. I look at him like a brother that I cant stand LOL but I know he is going to be in my daughters life forever, so for her I am the best I can be to him.
We have a common love, and that is our daughter, we both put her above our own feelings. I hope yall can do the same.

[D3m3nt3d]

Don't get me wrong, I hate I lost both of them. But, I can't even get a word out of my mouth when it comes to our daughter because I break down. I just had so many plans, and now I feel like none of this was real, none of it. Maybe from the very beginning when she tracked me down on Myspace after years it could have been real. But the whole getting back together with me, getting married and all of that, could have been just a ploy to get what she wanted. I will never argue with her around our child, I have more respect for them than to do that.

[Shinalynn]

Looking at your situation, you were when most men your age want to be, hot wife, kids, on your way to retirement, then BAM she is a slut and dreams are down the drain. I started over at the age of 28. I am going to back to school, by the time my daughter is 16 I will be able to buy her almost any car she could want. That is off my salary alone. Now is the time to get it together, and make plans that just include you and your baby girl. I promise this time you wont be dissapointed, and use the time you dont have her to work on your goals in life. I am not where I want to be, but I am the happiest I have been in years. AND no offense to the guys here, but its not because of a man.

[wanabeMASSIVE!]

Feel for ya bro.. But i would personally insure her and Kill her

[Shinalynn]

Feel for ya bro.. But i would personally insure her and Kill her

tehehehe I should have thought of that.

[zaggahamma]

nice of shinalyn to give that great personal example and GREAT advice

[Shinalynn]

nice of shinalyn to give that great personal example and GREAT advice

aww thanks, I really hate seeing someone in this pain. It seems we have all been there in one way or another.