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I believe in the flow of yin and yang in the universe with all its wonders and variety of life.
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04-14-2012, 10:03 AM #82
Sorry saw this and couldnt resist. Its funny so dont freak about it if you do believe in god.
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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04-14-2012, 10:20 AM #83
That should offend many people.....I think that's why I'm laughing so hard.
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04-14-2012, 10:23 AM #84
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04-14-2012, 04:23 PM #85
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If you can't laugh ..what's the point?
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04-14-2012, 04:38 PM #87
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04-14-2012, 04:41 PM #88
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04-14-2012, 05:29 PM #89
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04-15-2012, 12:48 AM #90
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Oh no u didn't................lol wow that is fresh
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04-15-2012, 06:42 PM #92Member
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Now, that's funny
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04-15-2012, 07:02 PM #93
may have been to much i took it down
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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04-16-2012, 01:41 PM #94
i used to not believe in God and walk around doing what pleased myself (sometimes or often i still do this).. there was no truth in my life because every belief i had was based solely on my analysis of others' opinions or my own opinion.. my life had no direction and no value other than self seeking pleasure.. eventually my lifestyle turned on me and what used to be pleasureful became the source of my pain.. it took years of this pain for me to become broken and desperate enough to see my need for a God i hoped existed.. fortunately speaking for myself God came to me.. He made me a believer.. i pray the same happens for all of u
Romans 1:20
20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.
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04-16-2012, 01:48 PM #95
I'm asking this being serious. How did you life change. I understand certain life styles can take a beating on someone and it catches up with anyone but what does that have to do with God?
I dont believe but i cant imagine how i would change if i did. I would still get up and goto work like i do now. I would still goto the gym. Care about my friends and family. I just dont understand it.If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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04-16-2012, 02:16 PM #96
i dont know if we have enuff time for me to properly answer this question.. my life changed in just about every way imagineable.. for starters i was addicted to drugs and alcohol and doing all types of stuff i thought was fun.. my world view was from a selfish perspective.. i didnt care about anyone or how i treated them.. dont get me wrong i didnt try to be mean all the time or anything but there was no real right or wrong for me.. it was all relative to what I thought.. if i thought something was right then it was right.. if i thought it was wrong it was wrong.. the way thats changed now is i have come to realize it doesnt matter what i think.. it only matters what God thinks..
i grew up partying with my friends.. typical high school upper middle class kid who knew everything and the only thing that mattered were girls and where the parties were at on the weekends.. and sometimes weeknites .. normal from a typical guys point of view..
after living my adolescent years in this manner it progressed through my 20s and as u can prob imagine with the progression came problems, more drugs, and addiction.. i tried to stop drinking and using unsuccessfully for several years.. during which time i met a girl who was a christian (and is now my wife).. bear in mind all the realizations i have made have been done in retrospect which is something ive learned thru the process.. its hard to see God at work in ur life while things are happening (especially if ur not a believer) but when u look back u can (or i can) clearly see God's hand in situations..
when i met my wife i was still running hard and fighting to maintain the only lifestyle i knew.. sometimes she would get me into church but i felt uncomfortable and out of place.. the more time went on the more church and God started coming into my life thru this girl and the more i resisted going the worse things got.. and ur just gonna have to trust i have a pretty high tolerance for unmanageable lifestyle situations.. long story short after 4years of this becoming totally unfunctional and trying to quit and not being able to i finally had the bright idea to pray and ask God (if He existed) to help me.. He did..
i went to a Christian Discipleship Program to give "God a try" in 2008 and came out a Bible believing Christian.. i used to blow Christians off like people who were imagining "god told me this" or "God told me that" and i just thought "this idiot is a freaking moron".. (in not so nice of terms).. well since i got out i have been sober and doing my best to live for the Lord for what will be 4years in june.. my life has never been better!
sometimes i miss going out with my friends (im not gonna lie) but its not worth jeopardizing the closeness i have with God now.. i also volunteer with my father in law at a smaller program by my house similar to the one i went to to help other guys dealing with the same problems i had.. life looks totally different now because when u are truly converted God opens ur eyes to see things differently than ur capable of seeing them as a non-believer..theres no way for me to convince u of this authenticity... God has to make the first move in ur heart.. thats where i think some christians go wrong.. u cant make someone believe.. all i can do is share my experience and hope the Lord speaks thru me in such a way it strikes a chord in the person im speaking to...
thats how my life has changed.. i no longer have to take on my problems alone.. i have the Lord with me and everything i go thru in this life is for a reason whether i know whatb the reason is or not.. God knows.. and i trust Him...
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04-16-2012, 02:18 PM #97
and as u can prob tell i still do all the things u mentioned above.. work, gym, friends, family.. that doesnt change.. although my relationship with my family has changed for the better
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04-16-2012, 02:22 PM #98
john 6:43-44
43 “Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. 44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.Last edited by --->>405<<---; 04-16-2012 at 02:43 PM.
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04-16-2012, 02:35 PM #99
I'm not going to answer for 405, that would be rude, but I will say this as I understand it, there is a physical side and a spiritual side to all we do. Speaking of God in particular it has been proven that the bible is one of the most historically correct books in existence but that's the physical side of it, to believe the spiritual side, as in Jesus dieing for your sins, and see it's effects you would need to experience something that spurs your spirit to seek it out and think differently about things. For example, 405 mentioned that his lifestyle got to the point that it became the trigger for seeking something deeper or better, I suppose everyone is different but yet I believe we all want to understand life better and grasp a meaning to it a little betterand do a little better. Spirituality is very hard to explain, some would describe it as your conscience or your inner being or that little voice that tells you that you should know better than to do something you know to be wrong, that's sort of a superficial explanation as with God there is something even more than that, the bible says that if you seek him he will be there. Christianity has been made very difficult by people who for some reason just can't accept forgiveness for what it is. A free gift. Christians have made it where most people don't want to hear about it, I find that sad, it really is simple and forgiveness is just that....forgiveness.
There you have it, I've explained all the mysteries of God and life in general in a few sentences, not bad for a sinful old bastard huh.
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04-16-2012, 02:40 PM #100
405......that's an interesting story, I'm glad things are going well for you, it takes a certain amount of courage to share your life story with people you don't really know, I know many people with similar stories. Thanks for being honest.
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04-16-2012, 02:42 PM #101Associate Member
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04-16-2012, 02:49 PM #102
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04-17-2012, 06:23 PM #103
I don't believe any of it and see no reason to.
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04-17-2012, 06:49 PM #104Banned
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God is in everything you just have believe
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04-17-2012, 07:47 PM #105
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04-17-2012, 09:56 PM #106
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I also have been dealing with addiction and belief in God has helped me. My father is my hero and is still alive. He has been the reason at times why I have not committed suicide. I feel that without God I would probably take my life after my father is gone. The way I see it I can honor him through good deeds. Recently I gave a $100 bill to a lady who was broken down waiting for tow. I had a grand in my pocket from a big win at the casino and it would have been wrong to keep driving.
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04-17-2012, 10:16 PM #107If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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04-19-2012, 12:21 PM #108
let me say this is according to my beliefs and what i consider from much prayer and study to be true..
good deeds are great! but dont be confused. good deeds will NOT bridge the gap that stands between us and God.. that gap is our sin.. the punishment for our sin is eternal death.. that price can only be paid one of 2 ways..
1. i pay it myself by dying an unsaved man and going to hell for eternity
2. i put my faith in Jesus Christ as the Son of God to be my personal savior and allow him to pay the penalty for me.. and by that faith am justified in the eyes of God.. that is the only way to heaven.. period..
The Romans Road to salvation is a way of explaining the good news of salvation using verses from the Book of Romans. It is a simple yet powerful method of explaining why we need salvation, how God provided salvation, how we can receive salvation, and what are the results of salvation.
The first verse on the Romans Road to salvation is Romans 3:23; "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." We have all sinned. We have all done things that are displeasing to God. There is no one who is innocent. Romans 3:10-18 gives a detailed picture of what sin looks like in our lives. The second Scripture on the Romans Road to salvation, Romans 6:23; teaches us about the consequences of sin - "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." The punishment that we have earned for our sins is death. Not just physical death, but eternal death!
The third verse on the Romans Road to salvation picks up where Romans 6:23 left off, "but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 5:8 declares, "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Jesus Christ died for us! Jesus' death paid for the price of our sins. Jesus' resurrection proves that God accepted Jesus' death as the payment for our sins.
The fourth stop on the Romans Road to salvation is Romans 10:9; "that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Because of Jesus' death on our behalf, all we have to do is believe in Him, trusting His death as the payment for our sins - and we will be saved! Romans 10:13 says it again, "for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Jesus died to pay the penalty for our sins and rescue us from eternal death. Salvation, the forgiveness of sins, is available to anyone who will trust in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
The final aspect of the Romans Road to salvation is the results of salvation. Romans 5:1 has this wonderful message, "Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." Through Jesus Christ we can have a relationship of peace with God. Romans 8:1 teaches us, "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." Because of Jesus' death on our behalf, we will never be condemned for our sins. Finally, we have this precious promise of God from Romans 8:38-39, "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Would you like to follow the Romans Road to salvation? If so, here is a simple prayer you can pray to God. Saying this prayer is a way to declare to God that you are relying on Jesus Christ for your salvation. The words themselves will not save you. Only faith in Jesus Christ can provide salvation! "God, I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. But Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. With your help, I place my trust in You for salvation. Thank You for Your wonderful grace and forgiveness - the gift of eternal life! Amen!"
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My 2 cents of the day.
God - yeah, sure thing. . . He's hanging out at the mega mall church across from my house.
When you die - Think of where you are when you sleep. . . Yup, that's heaven.
I have never read that exert from Einstein but that is the same exact conclusion I came to.
Fable tales to control the human mind.
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04-19-2012, 12:29 PM #110
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04-19-2012, 12:30 PM #111
^^^ that link is how we came to be. That is all!
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04-19-2012, 12:34 PM #112Banned
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This is my best way for me to explain god from a movie
""Well, the Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together.""
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04-19-2012, 12:59 PM #113
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04-21-2012, 01:33 PM #115
Here's my take on things And I hear moans in the forum as I start......lol
Belief in God is a leap of faith. And faith is believing in something common sense tells you not to. I think what hurts and confuses a lot of people with the god issue is the TV preachers out there using the bible for their own twisted purposes especially raising money for their own personal agendas. Most on TV today are beggars always begging the congregation for money. The bible tells us god didn't send beggars and many will come in his name but believe them not. So bottom line is it is a personal choice. I do believe that the Bible is a great layout of how we all should try to live our lives for the good of ourselves and each other. and the stories in it even today are spot on as to what is happening now. So what harm is believing and besides if it is true. Granted the bible is complex as it was written hundreds of years ago in the greek, hebrew and caldean languages, and the translators did their best but back in those days as in today there were slang words and multiple meaning words so those translators had to guess on which word and meaning was the correct one that the writer of the day had meant. And there lies a problem with following the bible to the letter of the written word. And causes so much controversy and fighting over it. Bottom line to me is just take the good stuff and use it for your every day life and don't let the controversial texts get you all caught up in hatred and such as some preachers like to use with their congregations, like the gay issues and the muslims. You would think that with faith would come enlightenment all across the denominations but instead it just causes mistrust and finger pointing as to whose religion is the correct one. So whether you believe or not and what faith you are of, just use it to be happy and treat others as you would want to be treated and we all will be better off for it. Ok my preaching is done..
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04-22-2012, 08:16 PM #116
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04-23-2012, 12:34 AM #117
The anti-gay stuff in the old testament was null and void when Jesus made a new covenant. Jesus even replaced the 10 commandments with that one new commandment that he stole from Zoroaster. "Do on to others as you would like done on to you." Most of those preachers really only push that hate, because they know their audience and how to incite them in to shelling out their money. If Jesus was alive today, he'd be furious with how they've perverted his church. It would be like when Jesus walked in to the temple and was furious with how they turned their faith in to a business rather than focusing on what was important.
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04-23-2012, 01:08 AM #118
Exactly! And they use that card whenever their money coffers get low or their wives need a new mansion or mercedes. It's really sad how some have perverted the entire religion and turned it into their personal money making tax free machines. Take for instance, well read this attached article it has the run down on most tv preachers of the day and their fortunes. But TBN network, IE alone has made a billion dollars off it's flock. There is some serious money to be made with religion. More so than the mafia. And one of the biggest ways to bring in the cash when their coffers get low is to bring up the gay card. It works every time in getting their congregations to pour in the money to get their preachers of the day to use his good book to call on the lord to stop this pestilence and protect the congregation from those evil satanistic gay people whose agenda is to take over our children and the world and destroy america. Do you know how dangerous those gay people can be? Why they can single handedly come into your house at night and remodel your living room, not to mention redo your closets as well, color matching all your outfits with your shoes! Why those dirty little bastids!
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/tele...ifestyles.html
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04-23-2012, 01:19 AM #119
It's funny how all the years of being in church while growing up I think I only heard that part of the bible 3x at the most. It's also one of the ones that stuck with me as a kid I never forgot and started me down the path of seeing what hypocrites the church was from age 8 or so.
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04-23-2012, 01:30 AM #120
Yeah it seems to me that they have done more to chase away new people than ever before, especially teens causing a big drop in membership compared to what 30 or 40 years ago. From what I understand most people back in the 60's went to church every sunday and nowadays they are all at the mall on sunday or home watching Showtime. There has been a big drop in membership to the church IMO and instead of changing and preaching the bible chapter by chapter and verse by verse they continue to beg and borrow bringing in the money like a casino. At least the big time TV preachers do. I think folks ought to go to a nearby church that would do more to help their nearby community instead of sending in money to some big time TV outfit. That's just my take on it all.
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