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04-11-2012, 04:52 PM #1
George Zimmerman Arrested Today For Second Degree Murder
Yep Florida brought in a special prosecutor to file murder charges against George Zimmerman for the Murder of Trayvon Martin. Second degree murder charges were filed. I feel so much safer now that we have this mass murderer of racist proportions off the streets. There are way too many racist murders in the US these days, one a year possibly. There were six black people murdered in the last few days in KC but they were black on black crime and that is ok cause no one who is black gives a crap about that. But at least we got that racist murderer off the streets. It's crazy that blacks are fine with killing each other but don't let anyone else kill one of them. I feel for George Zimmerman he was tried and convicted and sentenced in the media. Lost his house, his family and his job and had to go into hiding due to a bounty being on his life from the black panthers and others. At least he is safe in jail now till the trial which btw has no evidence to convict him. But his innocence will bring riots on the streets down in Florida as a segment of the black society goes on a rampage of violence, burning, stealing and beating up anyone in their path, whites, mexicans, asians are all to be targets. As well as local stores as they run in and loot for all they can all in the name of justice because a kid whom they had never heard of was killed by a man they had never heard of but that is ok. They now have a reason to rob steal and maime. Ya got to love our system and they will all get away with it because everyone is so politically correct so no one will be held accountable.
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04-11-2012, 05:00 PM #2
Better late than never.
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04-11-2012, 05:18 PM #3
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04-11-2012, 05:20 PM #4
I bolded this post. Some of this is gross misinformation with too much emotion by it that you seem more focussed on the colour of peoples skin as opposed to the actual crime.
You seem so convinced that the U.S. government does nothing but keep whitey down, that you probably forgot that Shawn Tyson, a black teenager was given a mandatory life sentence last week for the killing of two british, very white, tourists. Happy?
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04-11-2012, 05:49 PM #5
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I would convict for manslaughter but not 2nd degree murder. From the tapes and the one eye witness it sounds like Zimmerman was getting his ass beat.
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04-11-2012, 06:14 PM #6
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04-11-2012, 07:22 PM #7
If the witnesses that said he was getting his arse whipped...are greater than 1, AND he has a GOOD ATTORNEY...he will walk.
2nd degree murder requires an intent to do harm.
The video of witnesses that i saw...said he was getting beat up. If witnesses say he was walking back to his vehicle when he was attacked...he should have never been arrested.
This case is a Political case....a Kangaroo court will convict.
..but if the witnesses are telling the truth...then no case for the state and it is merely a show to appease the public.
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04-11-2012, 07:33 PM #8
We have the attorney general...praising a Racist.
Do you think Zimmerman will get a Fair Trial?
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/eric...-guide-trayvon
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04-11-2012, 08:16 PM #9If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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04-12-2012, 04:14 PM #10Member
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04-11-2012, 06:25 PM #11
[QUOTE=Flagg;5972076]I bolded this post. Some of this is gross misinformation with too much emotion by it that you seem more focussed on the colour of peoples skin as opposed to the actual crime.
You seem so convinced that the U.S. government does nothing but keep whitey down, that you probably forgot that Shawn Tyson, a black teenager was given a mandatory life sentence last week for the killing of two british, very white, tourists. Happy?QUOTE]
In all seriousness I would be happy if after the trial regardless of the outcome that there will be no riots and stealing and robbing over this incident anywhere in the US. And I was being facetious on this story not to be taken seriously. I figured most here would have known that. It's when I take a subject and stretch it so far beyond belief that I assume everyone, ok most know it's BS coming from me and read between the lines as to what I'm really saying. Oh well sorry for your upset. It's been one of those days...lol
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04-12-2012, 10:57 AM #12
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04-12-2012, 03:22 PM #13
They walked into the wrong part of the neighbourhood, he originally was robbing them at gun point, and I think he was "co-erced" by his gang to kill them as some ****ed up right of passage.
The reason I made a point is because Sholva started this thread by basically saying "this is only getting air time because a white guy shot a black kid and not the other way round", which is not true as I have demonstrated. I don't know how much air time Shawn Tyson got in the states, but it's been a pretty big thing in the news over here in the UK.
If it's any consolation, how this whole thing has been handled by the US Media is in huge poor taste and in poorer taste by the President using this as a means of scoring some cheap brownie points.
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04-12-2012, 03:23 PM #14
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04-12-2012, 03:32 PM #15
Exactly, I mean "if I had a son, he would look like Trayvon", i mean get the **** outta here. If he had a son, he wouldn't even be living in that part of the world and would likely be groomed to be yet another rich, elitist prick.
The problem with the West now, is that guys like us, who are from working or middle class backgrounds, have become beholden to the rich elite and the wasters that just drain the system by being on welfare and benefits. In that sense neither group is that much alike, and guys like us, slap bang in the middle, support both these groups financially. It really makes me sick.
EDIT: Likely the reason that Shawn Tyson has got virtually no air time over in the States is probably because of the whole Trayvon thing.
That's the Media for you.
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04-12-2012, 05:40 PM #16
Zimmerman isn't a white guy but yet they continue to claim it was a racist incident. It would be interesting to know what would have happened if it had been the other way around though. I had never heard of Shawn Tyson until you posted about him and I doubt if many here from the states had either. You are right though about it all being handled in poor taste though. Even though the civil rights act was passed in 1964, there are always some small group somewhere ready to fan the flames of perceived racism where ever they can. It's sad that there are still those who are so easily manipulated into the pot. But Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are good at what they do, stir up controversy...remember Tawanna Brawley? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_...pe_allegations and it gives them more political miles especially if the outcome is in their favor and it keeps them in the spotlight at the expense of victims.
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04-13-2012, 07:24 PM #17
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04-14-2012, 03:16 AM #18
Look it frustrates me as well. And I wonder if the story got so much air time in the UK, not so much because it was a black guy killing two whites, but it was a black guy killing two british citizens. I heard on the radio recently that in economic hardships, there will be a higher proportion of black men unemployed in the UK than the US. So I thought "well, is there something wrong with our system" until I found that apparantly there is legislation in America that says that a company MUST employ a percentage of ethnic minorities into their firms. This is a good and bad thing. It stops racist company owners turning away a capable minority, but it also means because of quotas, if a minority is the only one in ten white people at the interview stage, he will likely get a job. I think this policy is bad.
Now I remember when women got equal rights. It was a huge milestone and there hasn't been any issues since. I just wonder why there will always be a problem with whites and everyone else. Because there clearly is a problem.
As for the Black Panther group, why the Hell aren't they being arrested for inciting hatred? Surely their speeches are hateful. I dont know if you know this, but we're sending a whole bunch of muslim extremists to you soon. About 10 guys we arrested and have incarcerated for years, basically for extreme racial hatred. But your government wants them extradited to the states. They are going to some Hyper Max prison, the only ones you have where i think everyone is in solitary for 23 hours a day.
Crime is a direct result of poverty and lack of education, that's my opinion, and I mean urban crime that requires police attention, not corporate crime. If black people commit more crime than white people, that would infer they live in more poverty and have less education. So, in some ways, is it better a black person, even if he/she isn't very skilled, is working rather out there shooting people?
At the end of the day, most problems can be traced back to Government and their policies of deciding what they think is best for all of us in their rose tinted vision.
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04-11-2012, 06:10 PM #19
riots will happen like in LA 1992 if he is found innocent.
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04-12-2012, 12:38 AM #20
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04-11-2012, 06:22 PM #21
Shol'va, I'm more concerned with the fact that they want this guy's blood that it'll be impossible for him to get a fair trial. I mean the media has done everything they could to demonize Zimmerman despite the evidence they disclosed being contrary. I would expect the prosecutor to get at least one biased person on the jury who will vote guilty at all costs.
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04-11-2012, 06:30 PM #22
In all seriousness I agree that the chances of him getting a fair trial will be slim, but still possible. And in the end, the courts should decide his guilt or innocence. Sad thing is no matter what the outcome it is a tragedy because someone lost their life and now possibly another may be sentenced to life. So nothing good will probably come from any of this except hopefully justice for Trayvons family and Zimmerman if found innocent. I also hope that if Zimmerman is cleared of any wrong doing, that he can return to some kind of liveable life again without this hanging over him the rest of his life. My life has been threatened on more than one occasion and I've been attacked once, I won that fight, but there wasn't guns invloved. I know what it is like to always have to look over your shoulder just for patronizing a club or being somewhere where someone thinks you shouldn't or just different from the norm.
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04-11-2012, 09:25 PM #23Banned
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Anyone hearing what these black panthers and activists are saying?? ... Talking about blood needs to spill on the white man, and the need to rise up. Not positive, but I thought Zimmerman was Puerto Rican or something.
Scares the hell out of me ... So if I pull my firearm out to protect myself, I'm going down if by chance the guy (or group) I'm defending myself from is black?
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04-11-2012, 11:38 PM #24
What is absolutely asinine is Eric Holder the Attorney General, appointed by Obama (happens to be Black) is not prosecuting the Black Panthers for For putting a "dead-or-alive" bounty on Zimmerman? Which is a felony, by the way.
Also, why did he drop the charges of voter intimidation against the NBPP?
And...you got the Chief of the New Black Panthers, a fckin hate group....making Racist statements against Whites and nothing is done.
Hey Gix....i don't have to have all the facts...i know who the players are (Moe, Larry and Curly). Been there...done that.
Prosecutors...FEDERAL PROSECUTORS lose cases all the time. Now if Federal Prosecutors lose cases all the time...State Prosecutors do worse. They are charging Z precisely BECAUSE of political pressure.
The prosecutor can charge and prosecute on Murder 2....but the Jury can Dennie Murder 2, and recommend Manslaughter in their decision.
No offense...just sayin
You been charged with Murder in a International spotlight case...and your attorney got all the charges dropped? I personally, don't believe they have much that can overcome eye-witnesses who say they saw TM ontop of Z beatin his arse. Unless a surprise witness come forth...and says that Z was pushing and punching TM before they got to the ground....they ain't got much to go on. And the facts that i looked at...with the time line and footsteps of Z...backup his testimony.
This is what is known as a Kangaroo court case. Florida has what’s known as the Sunshine Law. It is the law that says all government activities are virtually open to the public. Cameras are virtually always n the courtroom. This trial will be a trial on television. It will be a joke...and i wouldn't be surprised if this prosecutor turns out to be the Next Marcia Clark.
She actually opened her meeting with the Family of TM with Prayer?
Jesus...she needs prayer to prove her case?
No doubt his prosecution will galvanize supporters of gun rights associations across the country. People generally don't like to see someone (they believe) railroaded and if they can do something to help right a wrong (in their opinion) such as making a donation for defense many may do that.
No offense....just saying.
This is a BS wag-the-dog case being handled by a bunch of hypocritical flunkies.
This government...this administration....is the worse i've ever seen.Last edited by tcw; 04-12-2012 at 12:01 AM.
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04-12-2012, 06:18 AM #25
[QUOTE=tcw;5972394]What is absolutely asinine is Eric Holder the Attorney General, appointed by Obama (happens to be Black) is not prosecuting the Black Panthers for For putting a "dead-or-alive" bounty on Zimmerman? Which is a felony, by the way.
Also, why did he drop the charges of voter intimidation against the NBPP?
And...you got the Chief of the New Black Panthers, a fckin hate group....making Racist statements against Whites and nothing is done.
also any media/media personnel( nbc or msnbc) that intentionally misrpresented facts should be charged....that was blatent when they left out the 911 caller asking what race was trayvon so that he would look like a racist...might have been the first piece of the snowball
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04-12-2012, 06:50 AM #26
[QUOTE=jpkman;5972584]That really annoys me about the media. I also worry about this guy getting a fair trial. Finish his trial then sue the media? And can't believe nothing is being done about the bounty, anyone conspiring to commit murder or similar should be charged and threat taken care of immediately.
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04-11-2012, 11:14 PM #28
he'll never be convicted of that charge... for sure..
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04-12-2012, 07:03 AM #30
from what i remember the poster for him wasnt dead or alive. Either way it was wrong and should not have been done. But think that more bs that media is running with. Just like some of the pics of treyvone with tatoo's looking all like a thug werent him or were proved to be photo shoped. But the media was showing them until it was proved.
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04-12-2012, 02:03 PM #31
Is this Photo-shopped?
http://savingtherepublic.com/blog/20...rge-zimmerman/
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04-12-2012, 08:11 AM #33Banned
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they charged him to settle the masses..
no way in hell he is convicted of second degree, no way...
and dont get me started on eric holder.....
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04-12-2012, 08:20 AM #34
total bullshit, charged by media pressure and asshole black polititions who don't know facts just race. if it was a black killing a white the media and black opportunists like fat ass sharpton & jesse jackson wouldn't say a word. this country is ****ed!
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04-12-2012, 05:27 PM #35
didnt ppl question the 911 caller saying we dont need you to do that(follow)...are 911 operators police/give orders to guards, etc.?
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04-12-2012, 05:40 PM #36
^^^^ I read a story about that. The operators will often advise, but not command people to do things. They will primarily try to keep the caller out of danger.
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04-13-2012, 04:22 PM #37
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Blablabla.. skim skim skim.. reference my earlier post. No f way he gets convicted of murder 2. Mangslaughter, sure.
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04-13-2012, 10:46 PM #38
Zimmerman walks, cities will burn, the black panthers will kill whitey at random........of course the DOJ will make damn sure that the trial doesn't happen until after the election.....lock and load!!
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04-14-2012, 05:06 PM #39
Well they should let everyone know ahead of time if there are riots.No one will be arrested beacuse we will shoot on site.Why stand back and let these people burn down and rob everything in site.I remember when MLK was killed.Well that was all BS beacuse if the sent in the National Guard and started shooting those thugs it wouldnt of went on so long.
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